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we're talking with bobby yen north korea's man in new jersey looks like we
may have lawson just now unwilling to try and get back then but obviously
fascinating take and receive a little bit of background on how bobby is so
familiar and and develop these relationships with north korean
diplomats he was working in the nineteen eighties recover m_i_a_s and p_o_w_s in
vietnam in vietnamese diplomats and journalists put him in touch with folks
in north korea
he since made several trips including in nineteen ninety-four receiving an
official honor from the democratic people's republic of north korea a pain
kim il-sung uh... kim jong il's father
on it he still on the platform with kim jong il he's been critical of some of
the caricaturing of north korea
in the media saying that of course kim jong il likes luxury is kids
he's a dictator and he's a guy and he's an old person we would only focus on
that if it was another leader though of course as you heard just now
he was
saying essentially that their human rights reasons their human rights
violations over there that are very grave regardless of the security
implications
did you know about these uh... concentration camps north korea
heard about them that i i'm not
that and
user
uh... united it's us certainly we've heard that since the sanctions have
taken effect
that
that the leadership the elites in north korea have continued sits a live
luxuriously and
the people out there they're advising them to eat grass import in many of them
are dying of starvation so
that's very disturbing but
it seems like the best way to improve the human rights situation over there
would not be a close the door further
but to uh...
to continue to sort of
develop malaysians of course that's very difficult now with the kind of saber
rattling that's gone
right now it seems like it would be hard to
to extend the handout uh... after all of this posturing of nuclear
there were strain you don't wanna aline subframe
so it's it's very complicated and it certainly out of my range of
understanding
foreign diplomacy
that that's absolutely right the one thing that bobby did know we had a
mantra snow is that
at the end of the day
at the end of the day these folks or still rational they don't want to be
annihilated man and uh... that's that certainly hoping that that we can
provide
since we cut out
with bobby just now we have in back we're gonna hang on
and he's gonna continue to speak with us a little bit in the next segment
some more about how bobby came to develop these relations with north korea
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