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September 11th, ancient Israel, and nine omens. Author Jonathan Kohn reveals the supernatural
secret to America’s future, on today’s 700 Club.
Well welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to our first program in this year of 2012. We’re
glad to see you. We have marvelous time of prayer yesterday. We’ll tell you some of
the things that I believe the Lord told me, as I’ve been on a prayer retreat for a number
of days. And remember Shakespeare talked about “full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”
Well today we’re going to see Shakespeare lived out. The Iowa caucuses are finally here.
After months of campaigning, the candidates will stop talking, and Americans will start
voting. But from what I’ve seen, and it’s true, more people go to the high school basketball
playoffs than show up in those caucuses in Iowa.
They sure do make a big deal out of it, don’t we?
They do, but if they get 100,000, it’s a big deal, and here you’ve got a state of
three plus million people.
Well, maybe it’s the marker of Iowa. Because going into the caucuses, a lot of those voters
that were talking about say that they still haven’t made up their minds, but there is
one candidate that has been making a move in the polls. David Brody has the story from
Iowa.
It is a media mob scene, and Rick Santorum’s rising poll numbers put him right in the middle
of it.
We believed we would be, not the flavor of the month, but the people that when they had
to actually decide who they were going to vote for, that we’d be the guy that they
vote for.
Santorum now finds himself in what looks to be a tight three-way race with Mitt Romney
and Ron Paul, pretty remarkable for a guy who languished at the back of the pack. Observers
credit this newfound popularity to his debate performances and a consistent conservative
message.
“Founding principles of this country in free people, free markets, free enterprise,
people being able to pursue their dreams and do God’s will in their life.
Santorum record in Washington is also becoming a target:
It’s a really strong work ethic there.
For example, Michele Bachmann talked to us about her differences with the former Pennsylvania
Senator.
Rick Santorum is a big spending Republican. I’m not. Spending is a crucial issue in
this race. Plus, it’s unfortunate, but Rick Santorum has backed Arlen Specter and endorsed
other pro-abortion candidates, including candidates that support partial birth abortion. Now Rick
Santorum doesn’t support abortion, but he’s supported candidates who do.
Bachmann, Santorum and Rick Perry could all split much of the evangelical vote here, and
that leaves an opening for Mitt Romney. Romney isn’t really courting social conservatives.
He’s focused more on independent Republicans. His resonating message of economic competence
and being the best candidate to take on President Obama could have him poised for a big night.
I remember after he was inaugurated, he went on the Today show. And he said, “If I can’t
get this economy to turn around in three years, well, I’ll be looking at a one-term proposition.”
I’m here to collect! I’m here to collect. We’re taking it back.
As for Paul, he’s the wild card out here. His organization, devoted following, and libertarian
message could pay huge dividends.
This is almost like a real rally! This great! Wonderful! There’s one issue that has made
America great, and the issue that you can answer all your questions on is “individual
liberty.” That is the issue.
Former frontrunner Newt Gingrich has seen his poll drop, but supporters like former
Congressman J.C. Watts are not deterred.
J. I can show you stinky feet that all of them have, but I think Newt, the fact that
he’s still standing and is still registering in the polls here, I think speaks pretty well
for him.
While voters in Iowa are still making up their minds, they are clear on one specific issue:
Teresa Gar And it’s very important that we defeat Obama. That is my number one issue.
We must defeat Obama.
What we know about caucus voters in Iowa is that they break late and they break hard,
and Sen. Santorum is hoping to capitalize on all of that and hoping that he is able
to coalesce all evangelicals evangelicals to his side, taking away support from Michele
Bachmann and Rick Perry on caucus night. David Brody, CBN News, in Newton, Iowa.
Well, there it is. You know, Terry, those caucuses, they can be on freezing cold nights,
snowy and so forth. It’s getting colder, and I think it’s going to be a cold snap.
I was in a place I think spirit-like, it was wind chill of minus 60. You talk about cold;
I mean, it’s miserable. So in any event, those people have got to bundle up, and they’ve
got to find these places, and it may be the address of Mabel Gotshoff in Pine Bluff, someplace.
They’ve got to find her house. Then they’ve got to sit around for several hours while
the party hacks go do their thing. And then they’ll finally get a chance to elect a
delegate. It’s very, very difficult. It isn’t like they go and cast their vote,
they count it, and you’re gone. It doesn’t work that way.
On the other hand, I would say, as a mid-westerner . . . .
And you will! Thank you, Miss Wisconsin.
And the fact that Iowans, I think, really see themselves as the beginning of the big
process, and so there’s a certain amount of pride that goes with that. I think, even
if it’s 60 below, that they will turn out in numbers.
Oh, sure they will, sure they will. All 80,000 of them out of three million. So all those
prideful Iowans.
Prognosticators, right, of what’s to come.
Well, at any event, it’s very hard. Jimmy Carter won it. The Des Moines Register backed
him, and he catapulted that to New York, but he had the backing of the Trilateral Commission
and some of the big boys, and they used that as a springboard. Look when Huckabee won it;
he mobilized the evangelicals. But where’d he go? He had a nice showing. He did very
well, but . . . .
So do you see it more as a leaning of the pack so to speak?
It’s the leaning of the pack. I mean, the people that can’t survive. For example if
Michelle, this is her home state, if she can come out . . . .
Yes. That’s surprising, isn’t it?
. . . . in the top three, she’s over as far as a presidential candidate, I think.
It would be foolhardy to continue. I think Rick Perry is maybe on his last legs, but
he’s got a pretty good war chest. The guy that’s got the money is Romney. And poor
Newt; he’s been pounded by one of these super pacs. They just pounded him unmercifully.
From top of the pole down to, maybe, third or fourth. He’ll come out of it. Of course,
Ron Paul, where’s he going to go? He’s got a hard core. They’ll be up with him
in New Hampshire; they’ll be with him in a few of these smaller states. But when they
hit the big ones, that takes money and organization, and it takes a lot of television to win.
Well, it takes a lot of money to have strong organizations in all of those ongoing places.
This is just the beginning, and now we’re talking New Hampshire and South Carolina,
but when does the big push come? When do we look at it and say . . . .
The big push will come in South Carolina. That is the key swing state, and from then
on out, it’ll pretty much be all over. You’ve got Florida and a few of these other big ones,
but that’s it. Romney should come out pretty strong in New Hampshire, because that’s
his home turf. He isn’t expecting to win in Iowa; but if he does, it will be remarkable.
Now you’ve had a lot of political background. How influencing is it to the larger states
like Florida and those that follow when South Carolina takes a particular direction?
A lot. It really is, because this is a major primary in a major southern state. It’s
remarkable. Rudy Giuliani was ahead of the game a few times ago, and he bypassed some
of these things and thought, “Well I’m going to sit in Florida and wait for it to
come to me.” It doesn’t work that way. By the time you get to Florida in his case,
it was all over. Well, it will be interesting ladies and gentlemen but, as I say, don’t
put too much stake in it. But if somebody gets a twofer, if somebody wins Iowa and wins
New Hampshire, the game’s over. Well, we’ll have an update on the results from our Iowa
tonight on The 700 Club, on the Family Channel. And David Brody will join us tomorrow with
his analysis of what that vote means, if anything. Lee Webb has the rest of our top stories,
Lee.
Pat the head of Iran’s army warns an American aircraft carrier not to return to the Persian
Gulf. The USS John C. Stennis left the gulf and passed through the Strait of Hormuz last
week. It’s not clear why the general issued the warning, but the US typically keeps at
least one aircraft carrier in or near the Persian Gulf. The general’s statement came
today as Iran ended a 10-day military exercise at the entrance of the Persian Gulf. Iran
test-fired three missiles designed to sink warships.
Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood says it will not recognize Israel under any circumstance.
The group won big during recent parliamentary elections. Now the brotherhood says they’re
seeking a referendum to cancel the 1979 Israeli-Egyptian peace treaty. A Muslim Brotherhood leader
told the British based Arabic newspaper Al Hayat that Egypt would never again meet and
negotiate with Israel. He called the nation a quote, “criminal enemy.” Pat.
Well, that’s a shock, because we were all thrilled when Anwar Sadat met with Menachem
Begin, and they shook hands, and they made a peace agreement, and Sadat went up there
to Israel. It was really a nice thing, and they opened relationship, and now, of course,
Israel just beat the daylights out of the Egyptian armed forces and spared one of their
armies which they had trapped. They could have destroyed it, and they didn’t do it.
But the Muslim Brotherhood, as we told you, was coming into power. And when they get into
power, they are extreme Islamists. Make no mistake about it. They want the Caliphate,
and they hate Israel. So they are saying it now. They’re not waiting to announce their
intentions. That means the cauldron is bubbling more in the Middle East. We’d hoped for
some kind of a peace. The Muslims don’t want peace. Lee.
California Pastor Chuck Smith is battling lung cancer. Smith is the founder of the Calvary
Chapel network of churches. He told his congregation about his condition Sunday at Calvary Chapel
in Costa Mesa. One of the pastors at that church posted on the Internet that Smith is
expected to have tests this week and surgery later this month. His recovery is expected
to take about three weeks, and Calvary Chapel’s Facebook page, Pat, is asking believers to
pray for him.
Well, I’d ask the same thing. Chuck Smith is a wonderful man. He’s been a stalwart
pastor and Bible teacher for many years. People love him. He says, “I have not smoked a
cigarette once in my entire life. This is not a smoking thing.” But I suppose breathing
some of the noxious fumes around—of course, he doesn’t live in Los Angeles. He’s down
in Costa Mesa.
South of there I believe. But he’s a wonderful teacher. I’ve heard some of his teaching;
it’s great.
Well, please pray for this man because God loves him. It has been warm here. We have
had tremendous temperatures, and as a process, most everybody’s gotten some kind of a virus.
Now it’s gotten cold. It was freezing at my house this morning, and I don’t know
what’s happening, but we’ll have more about that later. Lee, tell us about the weather.
Pat, a winter storm is finally kicking in from the Great Lakes down to the east coast.
It’s bringing with it a blast of frigid air that’s sweeping all the way down to
Florida. Dale Hurd reports.
After taking December off, winter finally showed up. A winter storm sweeping across
the eastern United States has brought freezing temperatures and heavy snow in some areas.
From New England, all the way to the Deep South, many Americans are waking up to a mess
this morning, sliding cars or cars stuck in the snow. It’s the first major winter storm
of the season.
We’ve been very spoiled. It’s been nice, so hopefully it’ll be short-lived. Get the
cold temperatures out of the way and get back to warm weather.
The arctic blast is making it tough for drivers returning from vacation or folks just heading
to work this morning. The highways around Chicago were treacherous: in Kentucky, a 30-car
pile up on I-75, in Indiana an 18-vehicle crash. In Coconut Creek, FL, they’re trying
to save butterflies from the cold. Workers at Butterfly World brought thousands of butterflies
indoors.
If it gets below freezing, they freeze like little ice cubes. manager.
But for skiers the fun has finally begun, and vacationers at this resort in Tennessee
say the cold and snow are just fine.
We got the word there is going to be snow and we can’t wait!”
And the folks who shovel this stuff, snow plow contractors, are pretty happy, too.
It’s going to be less, taking a hit this year unless it keeps snowing until April or
something.
If you live in the East and you hate the snow and cold, go West. They’re enjoying unusually warm temperatures
in California.
It’s a perfect day to go for a bike ride.
Dale Hurd, CBN News.
Economists around the world are focused on two key issues as 2012 begins: the debt crisis
in Europe and the massive federal deficits here in the US. Paul Strand examines the impact
of those two problems on the economy this year.
Most of 2011 was spent worrying whether the economy would plunge over another cliff. 2012
could just ratchet up the pressure, or not. To get an informed view of where the economy
may be headed this year, We can here to Dobbs Ferry, NY, along the Hudson River. This is
where Mark Skousen, one of the country’s leading economic forecasters lives and does
his forecasting. This editor of the influential Forecasts & Strategies newsletter worries
Europe’s debt crisis will take down the EU and could seriously hurt the US as well.
What you’re facing is the possibility of an unraveling of the euro zone.
Bill Beach, a top economic analyst at the Heritage Foundation, says if countries like
heavily-in-debt Italy default on their debts, it will likely kill many major banks in Europe,
which could topple American giants.
As major financial institutions from Bank of America to Goldman-Sachs, Morgan-Stanley,
all of these that are now banking operations, begin to see their investments in those European
banks extinguished.
How bad could it get?
It’s a major recession. It’s riots in the streets. It’s a collapsing stock market,
a stock market crash, all of the scenarios that your worst nightmare is what people are
in fear of.
Beach is casting a wary eye on a whole other region that could create problems for America:
the oil-rich Middle East.
Anything that disturbs the Middle East affects the oil price which affects the course of
our economy.
He points out the Arab Spring may be producing more radically Islamic regimes.
The governments that are coming in are not coming in as progressive governments that
have a favorable view to Israel.
So that raises a concern that if Iran and Israel get into a military confrontation over
Iran’s possible nuclear weapons, other Islamic powers could also go after the Israel and
turn this into a region-wide war that could threaten the oil supplies and cripple the
economies of both Europe and the US. Still, the US doesn’t have to look outside its
borders to find another source of problems. Both Skousen and Beach worry if Washington
politicians can’t agree to tackle the huge, annual federal deficits and $15 trillion federal
debt, America’s credit rating will fall and shaky times will grow shakier.
Congress was supposed to come up with a solution and they didn’t come up with a solution.
All of the financial credit rating agencies are very concerned about it.
Skousen, though, isn’t all gloom and doom. He’s hoping the Federal Reserve may soon
raise interest rates after keeping them so low for so long. Skousen says that would be
a sign that economic growth is coming back.
If they raise interest rates, that will send a message out to all the world that we’re
back to normal, we’re moving back to normal.
And Beach sees many positive trends for at least one sector of America’s economy.
I think 2012 will see the United States hold and grow its dominance in the high-technology
area. We’re seeing a lot of entrepreneurial activity, new firms, new startups.
Skousen says corporations have been making record profits but have been frozen with fear
that investing, building, expanding and hiring may not be the smart thing to do, because
if the Democrats win Congress and Obama, the White House in 2012 and:
If Obama remains an ideologue, then it could be another, four frustrating years.
Many seem to have their fingers crossed more business-friendly politicians will win in
November, wiping out liberal initiatives.
I think there’s a real possibility that if the Republicans gain control of Congress
and the presidency, that a lot of this will be reversed and that businesses will just
load up and start investing and hiring people and so forth.
But remember, whether President Obama is elected or Governor Romney or Speaker Gingrich or
whoever, the main problem remains right in front of us, and that is the fiscal mess of
the United States government.
So where will the American economy flow in coming days? Could be up. Could be down. Much
may depend on Europe and whether American politicians continue to hamper or help American
businesses. Paul Strand, CBN News, reporting from Dobbs Ferry, NY.
And, Pat, back to you.
Thank you very much. Paul, good work, and I’m going to be sharing just a little bit
of what the Lord told me. I went away, and I always speak very humbly. I think I hear
from the Lord, and if it’s not the case, but I have a relatively good track record,
and I’ll tell you what I think’s coming in 2012. Terry.
Well, that’s all going to happen when we come back. We’ll show you some of the highlights
from our New Year’s chapel yesterday, and Pat will share some of the insights that he
just mentioned, and later on we want to be taking your questions for Pat.
So, you can join us in our chat room by logging on to CBN.com.
Coming up later . . . .
. . . . September 11th, ancient Israel, and nine omens. Author Jonathan Kohn reveals the
supernatural secret to America’s future, on today’s 700 Club.
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Well, every year, every new year, CBN and Regent University come together for a time
of praise, worship, and we pray together. And then Pat also shares what the Lord had
shown him about the year ahead. So, let’s take a look at part of his message from yesterday’s
prayer meeting.
The Lord said, and I’m quoting, “Your country will be torn apart by internal stress.
A house divided cannot stand. There must be an urgent call to prayer.” I think that’s
one of the things CBN has got to do this year is just urge people to pray. But God says
at the beginning of this is, “Loose the bonds of wickedness.” I don’t know what
we’ve got to do to get people free, but there are people in bondage, people in slavery,
people in all kinds of situations. Just imagine. Basically God says, “How can you be content?
How can you be content when there are millions of people going to Hell around the world?”
And God’s heart reaches out to these people. His heart is moved with compassion for these
who are His creatures. That’s our job. God’s got it under control. That’s the good news.
God’s got it under control.
Of course, we know that, that God does have it under control, but yet, He calls us to
pray.
He sure does.
I mean, then in 2nd Chronicles, that’s very clear that the onus is on His people.
That’s right. “If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves, and seek
my face, turn from their wicked ways.”
Talk a little bit about where you see things going. What God’s spoken to you.
I spent the better part of a week in prayer and just saying, “God show me something,”
and I’ll share with you. Some things I’ll share with you. I think He showed me about
the next president, but I’m not supposed to talk about that. So I’ll leave you in
the dark.
Probably just as well.
Probably just as well. But I think I know who it’s going to be. Alright. I’m going
to read just what I wrote down, as if I’m hearing from the Lord these words. “Your
country will be torn apart by internal stress. A house divided cannot stand. Your president
holds a radical view of the direction of your country which is at odds with the majority.
Expect chaos and paralysis.” Your president holds a view which is at the odds for the
majority. It’s a radical view of the future of the country, and so that’s why we’re
having this division. “This is a spiritual battle which can only be won by overwhelming
prayer. The future of the world is at stake, because if America falls, there’s no longer
a strong champion of freedom and a champion of the oppressed of the world. There must
be an urgent call to prayer.” Okay, and then the Lord said, “A time of maximum stress
and peril greater than at any time since the CBN ministry began. This country will begin
disintegrating.” Now I thought, when did we start this place? I started CBN in, I think,
1960. You think of all the things that went on. You have the assassination of presidents,
assassination of Martin Luther King, you got a war in Vietnam, you got all these things.
He said it’s a worst stress than before. So I’m saying, “God, let me give you some
suggestions, and you tell me if any of them are right.” You know, pick one. So I said,
“Is it an EMP blast?” No, that isn’t it. “Is it a cosmic or solar radiation blast?”
No. “Is the Mayan galaxy alignment?” No, it’s not that.
Which will shock many.
“Is it Iranian or a North Korean nuclear threat?” No. “Is it an earthquake or volcano?”
No. Is it a massive power failure?” No. “What is it?” It’s an economic collapse.
And God said, and I quote, “This is not My judgment. They’re bringing it upon themselves.”
Yeah. It’s almost like we are in a morass that we can’t extricate ourselves from.
It’s incredible! Here the economy is like a boat going over a waterfall, and people
are rolling against each other. One group is rowing to try to keep from going over the
fall; the other is saying, “Well, let’s just take it easy and let the thing keep flowing.”
So in any event, that’s the other. There are so many things that the Lord showed me,
but let me see here. The next president, the Lord said it’s going to be like a pilot
in an airplane who takes the controls as the plane is going into a steep dive and grabs
control to try to bring the thing away from a crash. We’re heading for a crash, a financial
crash of major proportions. And the next president is going to be like having to grab the controls
and do all the things he’s . . . .
Try and straighten the thing back up.
But it’s tough to do.
Yes, it is.
Because the machine doesn’t want to right itself; the momentum is so bad. All right,
the next thing, CBN will have the best year ever. We’ll have an amazing harvest of souls.
Now, we counted yesterday in the prayer meeting, 620 million people have recorded, somewhere
or other recorded, have been marked as accepting the Lord, a greater harvest than ever. This
year is going to be fantastic. It will be in the United States and overseas what we’re
going to see. The Lord showed me something that I think is very, very important. I read
carefully about Galatians, and the apostle Paul is talking about the works of the flesh.
The Greek word is sarx, the flesh, and he listed the works of the flesh, and you see
some of the things in there. Of course, you have immorality and sensuality which we see
so much of. But you’ve got enmities, strife, jealousy, dissensions, factions. All of this
is party spirit. We’re seeing it in more graphic detail than ever before in our history,
and God says very clearly, and I want to read it, “Such things shall not inherit the Kingdom
of God.”
That’s not a word from here; that’s the word from Him.
That’s a word from Him, and it said “You will not inherit the Kingdom of God,” so
don’t tell me about your party spirit. It’s sinful. Now he says the fruit of the Spirit,
listen to this, is “Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness,
self-control.” Last, on self-control. That’s one of the problems in our country; we don’t
have self-control. We don’t have control over our spending. We don’t have control
over our eating. We don’t have control over our drinking. We don’t have control over
our sensuality. There’s no self-control. There’s not a government big enough, so
the liberals want to put in more, and more, and more, and more controls to do what only
God Himself can do for men.
Because there is nothing in—once we’ve given that part of ourselves away, there’s
nothing to make us want to take it back.
That’s right.
We really need the Spirit of God to do a move in our land and in our hearts.
And then when somebody tries to warn about it, they’re then condemned.
Yes.
All right, so that says, “Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with the
passions and desires.” So ladies and gentlemen, I’m just telling you right now, that great
things are going to happen in the spiritual world. It’s going to be good. But I’ll
also tell you that the country we live in, and we love so much is entering a period of
maximum stress, and it’s there because of conflicting points of view about what is the
way to save the nation and this mounting debt, and were out of control. We don’t have self-control
as citizens, and we want more, and more, and more from the government, and we’re not
willing to trust in God. So we’re going to pay the price, and again, God says, “This
isn’t my judgment. This is yours. You’re bringing it on yourself.”
And yet in the midst of that, we will see the Spirit of God move. You know, after our
New Year’s prayer meeting, we walked over to the grounds of Regent University—we’re
all kind of connected here—to dedicate a new chapel being built there that’s going
to have tremendous implications. Let’s take a look.
We dedicate this place to the King of Kings and Lord of lords. We have over here a scroll.
So I want to sign this. All right and if my dear wife would come. This is going to be
a gorgeous chapel, is going to be a classroom building for the school of Divinity which
is now one of the largest Divinity schools in the country. This little scroll will go
into this cornerstone. It will be sealed in concrete. (Praying): Father, in Jesus’ name,
you’re the only cornerstone. You lay in Zion, a precious cornerstone. Let this be
the cornerstone of your planting. Use this building, this chapel, these classrooms, for
your glory always. We dedicate it to you in the name of Jesus. Amen. And amen.”
A new chapel here on our campus. That’s going to mean a new building for the Divinity
school. We have a wonderful Divinity school here.
We do, and we have close to 1000 students, and more, and there’s a great demand right
now. We don’t have enough classroom space. We’re jammed up.
It’s going to be an amazing presence on the campus.
It will be lovely. It’s a gorgeous building, and I just think it will be a center of prayer.
The students want something to pray. So, yes, in the midst of problems, we’re building.
Yes.
That says something.
Exactly, the promise of God. Well, still ahead, a compelling look into America’s future
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this year’s presidential elections. He says it’s unacceptable that Israeli and Palestinian
negotiations could be ignored during the election cycle. Palestinians have refused to talk to
Israel unless it halts construction in Jewish communities in the biblical heartland of Judaic
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Well, we just turned the corner on a new year, and what does 2012 in the years beyond hold
for America’s future? Well according to author Jonathan Cahn, it depends on the ancient
mystery from Israel’s past. Just watch this.
Nine ancient omens. One hidden biblical prophecy. Revealed through catastrophic events in America’s
past and present. It sounds like a plot for a movie, but in his new book, The Harbinger,
messianic Rabbi Jonathan Cahn says it’s a sign of the End Times. Rabbi Cahn combines
biblical prophecy with historical events that began in America on 9/11 to keep readers on
the edge of their seats.
Folks, I was fascinated with this book. It was sent to me by the publisher in an advanced
copy. Jonathan Cahn, it’s called, The Harbinger, the Ancient Mystery. I read it from cover
to cover. It’s a fascinating book, and it ties the events of 9/11 to the prophecy released
by Isaiah in the ninth chapter. We have the author with us, Jonathan Cahn. He’s the
Rabbi, I believe, of the largest messianic congregation in America. Jonathan, I’m glad
to have you here.
Thank you. It’s a blessing to be here. Thanks.
All right, now The Harbinger, a harbinger is like a robin is a harbinger of spring.
So a harbinger is something that kicks off what’s coming later. You found in Isaiah,
what drew you to Isaiah 9? How did happen? Suddenly it exploded in your mind, and here
it is.
Well, when 9/11 happened, our ministry is nearby, when it happened I was drawn to Isaiah
9 and 10. I was praying that particular point in Israel’s history that was linking up
with this. At the same time, I found out later that David Wilkerson, at the same time, was
led that there is a word for America, at the same time, and it was the exact same words,
exact same verse. So later on I was standing at the corner of Ground Zero, and I noticed
an object that drew my attention that began the unfolding of a mystery that kept unfolding
and getting bigger and bigger and really mind blowing until it got to this, which is an
ancient mystery that is behind what is happening in America, what has happened in America,
behind 9/11, behind the economic collapse, behind the crash of Wall Street, even that
has determined that the actions and actual words of American leaders, a mystery that
goes back two and a half thousand years and is a warning of judgment and a call of God,
a prophetic call of God.
Well, Isaiah 9 was a judgment call. It was a rebuke . . . .
. . . . and you pointed out so clearly, the bricks have fallen. Tell us about that. That
was a rebuke.
What happened was, and this is really the first sign or one of the first signs of a
pattern of national judgment, and that is God removes the hedge of protection after
calling a nation, and calling a nation, finally to wake them up. Israel had known God, and
Israel had turned away from God. So He called them, and called them. Finally He allowed
their hedge of protection to be removed. He allowed a strike to come into the land, the
enemy to make a strike. It was temporary; it was limited, and it was to call them back.
And then there was a grace period when they kind of hung in the balance. But instead of
repenting, instead of turning back to God, they made a vow. And the vow in Isaiah 9:10
says “The bricks have fallen, but we will rebuild with quarried stone, hewn stone. The
sycamore has been cut down, but we will plant Cedars in their place.” So they defied God.
We’re coming back stronger than ever, and so what happened is that seals the course
of their nation and of judgment and ultimately years later, Israel will be destroyed.
Well, you know, I said this, that the hedge of protection had been taken down, and people
said wasn’t that a horrible thing to say? Well, I said this is the first time we’ve
been struck since the war of 1812. We’ve never had anything like this, and yet what
do we do? How do we respond to 9/11?
Well, here is the same, exact same pattern. Now America has known God, and America is
turning from God. We know that it has turned. And so God is calling. So finally He allows
the same thing, same pattern. He allows the hedge of protection to be removed, and enemies
strike. It’s limited; it’s contained. It’s just a warning, but it’s a grace
period. And 9/11, remember everybody flocked to the churches and said “God bless America.
God bless America.” But there was no real repentance. There was no real turning and
saying have we done something, no turning? And the problem is, it was the response was
the same as ancient Israel’s. It was the response of defiance. We’re going to come
back stronger than ever, stronger than ever. So the thing is that when Israel did this,
there were nine harbingers of judgment or omens, as you said, that are warning Israel,
that appear. And those same nine harbingers of judgment have are reappearing in America
on American soil with precision. It involves American leaders. Some are in New York. Some
happened in Washington, objects, reenactments, almost ceremonies. It happened exact, it’s
exact, precise reenactments.
It’s chilling. I noticed you played a big thing about, “We will rebuild.” That’s
what the Jews said, the Israelis. What does it parallel here in our country?
It’s exactly what America did in view of 9/11. It wasn’t, again, repentance. It was,
“We’re going to come back stronger than ever, stronger than ever.” Leaders start
chanting the same words as in ancient Israel. And they said we are going to rebuild. Isaiah
9:10 says, “We’re going to rebuild, and rebuild stronger than before.” We’re going
to come back and we’re going to keep going away from God, but we’re going to be stronger.
That’s exactly what happens. They set to rebuild as Israel did, just as Israel did.
“We’re going to rebuild the towers.” But stronger than ever, with no repentance.
That’s the problem, not the rebuilding. And everything that happened in ancient Israel,
specifically, I mean, there’s a tree involved in this, there’s a stone involved in this.
Everything they did was repeated by America. For instance, there was a stone, one of the
harbingers is a stone called the Gazeet [phonetic] stone, a stone of judgment. And they take
a quarried stone and have to put it, they put it where the bricks have fallen, and it
says we will rebuild with quarried stone. And there they vow, and it’s a stone representing
defiance. It has to happen in America. In American after 9/11, they take a stone, the
same thing that answers to the Hebrew Gazeet [phonetic] stone. They take it. They put it
down on Ground Zero. They have a ceremony around it. The American leaders are gathered,
and they pronounce vows over that stone. Another harbinger is that of the tree. It’s called
the shakam tree in Hebrew. “The sycamores have fallen,” so a tree has to be struck
down by the advance of 9/11 according for this to happen. That’s what happened in
Israel. So what happens, this freak event, as the last tower comes down, it sends out
a beam, it sounds out a force, and it strikes down an object that happened to be nearby.
It’s the tree. It’s the sycamore. It has the same, exact name as that in Isaiah.
Well, you mean in America, we had a sycamore tree that was struck by 9/11?
Yes, and in New York. What are the chances of that? In New York, right there, the same
thing. Every single thing that’s in there, and these nine harbingers have happened with
exact precision.
Where was that tree? Your book makes it so amazing, that tree.
The tree was at the corner for Ground Zero. It was at the courtyard of St. Paul’s Chapel
where there’s another whole mystery with that with the founding of America. Yeah, it
was right there. And then the other harbinger, they have to replace this tree with another
particular tree. That’s what happened in Isaiah 9. That’s exactly what they do. They
lower another tree. It’s the exact kind of the Bible, of what’s said in there.
Come on! It was a sycamore tree?
The sycamore tree was struck down as a sign of national judgment, and then it’s replaced
with what’s called in Hebrew the éréz tree, a certain kind of tree. That’s in
Isaiah 9:10. That’s exactly what happened. They replaced it with the same tree and the
same soil. They have a ceremony around it. It’s a defiant thing, same thing. And then
there’s the vows itself, one of the harbingers is that the leaders of Israel had to say this
vow, “We will rebuild with quarry, all this thing.
It has to happen. So for this to come true, it has to happen in America. American leaders
have to be able to say this vow, proclaim this vow which really seals judgment on the
nation, and do it in the capital city which they would have done at Samaria. But the thing
is who in their right mind, what leader would, in their right mind, do this, because it’s
pronouncing judgment on the nation. It happens on the very day after 9/11. On September 12th,
America gives its response to God. It’s not repentance. What happens if the Congress
gathers and on Capitol Hill, the Senate majority leader comes to the stand . . . .
. . . . and he actually voices the exact vow of Isaiah 9:10, the ancient vow of Americas
leader. He doesn’t know what he’s doing. Nobody had any idea. And it is pronouncing
judgment on the nations. It’s linking America to ancient Israel.
That was Daschle!
That was Tom Daschle.
The day after.
The day after the exact verse. It’s to the world. I mean, it couldn’t be more precise.
But he doesn’t realize what he’s doing. It is setting the course, and it’s even
prophetic, because he’s saying things that are going to happen. He says this is going
to be the course of America. We’re going to follow Isaiah 9:10. He says that in effect.
That’s exactly what happened. For the next years, we sought to defy and beat it back.
But the problem is, without repentance, you cannot solve the problem.
They even linked to Isaiah 9. Didn’t it? Was it Biden?
Daschle quoted it exactly. He says, “I believe there’s a word and it’s from Isaiah that
speaks to all of us at times like this.” And then he say, “The bricks have fallen,
but we will rebuild with dressed stone. The sycamore, the biblical fig tree, has been
struck down, but we will plant cedars in their place. He doesn’t realize, as he says that,
what it means. And he doesn’t realize that there is an actual sycamore tree that was
struck down. He doesn’t realize that, prophetically, years later, they’re going to put the same
thing in. It’s like he’s prophesying without realizing it.
That sycamore. You pointed that after they had signed the Constitution, they marched
across to that church.
Well, there’s a biblical principle that, with Israel, judgment came to the Temple Mount.
That’s where the nation was consecrated to God, dedicated to God. So judgment returns
to the consecration ground. So in American history, the first day of America as a fully
formed nation was April 30th, 1789, with Washington’s inauguration. And, as I said, they go over
and then after the inauguration, he leads them to go over to dedicate the future of
America at this ground. So that’s the consecration ground. So where was it? The first capital
of America wasn’t Washington, it was New York City, lower Manhattan. So where did they
go? They went to dedicate America, commit the future into God’s hands in what is now
Ground Zero, the corner of Ground Zero, St. Paul’s Chapel. It still stands. They dedicated
America. The judgment returns to the place of consecration, and that’s the soil where
the sycamore was growing. That’s the soil, Americas consecration ground, where the other
tree was planted, and where these harbingers appear. And so, it’s a warning. With God,
He was calling Israel back, saying, “Remember your consecration. Return to Me. Return to
this ground.” It all happened. And on 9/11, there was only one place that was protected
on the perimeter of 9/11. All the buildings were destroyed or charred. One was protected;
it was the ground where America was prayed for, the consecration at St. Paul’s Chapel.
And on that day, a shockwave went forth from Ground Zero, the place of consecration, and
it struck federal hall, the place where Washington was sworn in. That’s where the government
began, and it cracked the foundation on that day, of Americas foundation. And also on that
day, Washington gave a prophetic warning.
What did he say?
It’s what he said. And I’m paraphrasing, but he says basically, “If America ever
turns away from God, if a nation turns away from God’s ways, God’s rules, the favor,
the smiles of Heaven, or the favor of God, are going to be removed from the land.”
He does it on that day, goes to where Ground Zero is, and then, so now it is there where
the favor or the protection was lifted up.
But the federal hall was cracked, the foundation was cracked?
Yes, on 9/11, from a shockwave from Ground Zero. You have the place of dedication, and
you have the place of the beginning of America as a nation.
But they have rebuilt, I mean, they planted a tree, a new tree. I mean, they rebuilt it.
They put a dressed stone, and then what kind of tree did they put in?
They put a Hebrew éréz tree which is a cedar tree, it’s has to be a Panache tree. That’s
the most exact definition of the Hebrew cedar. So they put in a tree. Nobody planned it.
Somebody just donated it, said, “Okay, put this tree in.” So instead of doing another
sycamore, they do the exact tree, so they plant it and they have a ceremony, and they
call it “the tree of hope.” They make all these things into symbols without realizing
it.
It’s the exact tree in the Bible.
It’s the exact Hebrew definition of that tree, is éréz tree, which is a Panache tree.
It can be a cedar. But it’s also an evergreen conifer. Panache is the exact tree. And nobody
plans it! It just happens. And then it goes on, because a the harbingers, we’re just
touching on them, but there’s more. But it goes on to effect everything, the economy,
the crash of Wall Street. There’s the mystery in America history that the beginning of Americas
rise to super power, financial rise, there’s a sign that appears at the beginning. It reappears
on 9/11. It is the—we get the word, you know, Wall Street is called “Buttonwood,”
because the covenant was signed under Buttonwood tree. So what is the Buttonwood tree? It’s
the sycamore tree. It’s the sign of American power. On 9/11 that tree is struck down. Even
a foreshadow of the striking down of Americas economy, which happens years later; the tower
strikes that down. There’s another mystery in it of three witnesses, that in the Bible,
there had to be two or three witnesses to confirm a fact or a matter of judgment. So
we mentioned Tom Daschle. He’s the first witness. He links Americans to ancient Israel.
He pronounces it. That’s not the only one. Three years later, on the anniversary of 9/11,
another national leader is in Washington. He gets to his podium, and his entire speech,
he says, “We have a word here now.” And he starts reciting the ancient vow of judgment,
the same verse of Isaiah. And he builds his whole speech around it. It is John Edwards.
Yes.
Jonathan Cahn: And the whole speech is built around—and he has no idea, still, that it’s
actually happening, the sycamore. He’s saying, “We’re going to do this.” He’s speaking
figuratively. He has no idea. And then the third witness is the president of the United
States, and that is Barack Obama. And this is not even 9/11. This is after 9/11, the
economic collapse happens, and he gets up to tell the nation, “Hey, we’re going
to come back.”
And he makes the center of his speech—he says I want every American to know these words,
basically, “We will rebuild. We will recover.” He actually says the exact words that Tom
Daschle said from the pulpit, the third wing, in the same place, Capitol Hill. One said
it on one wing of Congress, the other says it on the other wing of Congress. So even
the economic collapse, even the very day of it, even the very days were ordained in an
ancient mystery in the Bible. It’s amazing. The crash of Wall Street. We all saw this.
There’s a mystery in the Bible called the Shmita, or the seven-year mystery. Every seven
years Israel would rest. On the last day of that year, they would wipe out their credit
in debt would happen on a specific Hebrew day, the 29th of Elul. And so it became, the
nation's financial accounts are wiped out, and this is a blessing, but they turned it
into a judgment. They turned away from God so it came back as a sign of judgment. So
the Shmita to or the seven sabbatical year, becomes a sign of judgment against a nation
that has driven God out of its life. That has put money above him, and it strikes the
financial realm of it. So when did the financial collapse happens, it happens seven years after
the first shaking, comes the second shaking. Seven years after 9/11, September of 2008.
Seven years to the month, the second week of September, seven years to the week, when
America is commemorating 9/11, it actually the second calamity is set in motion, and
when did the greatest day of the collapse happen? It happened at the end of September,
great stock market crash in American history. When did it happen? It happened on the 29th
day of Elul, the day of the Shmita, the day of the judgment on an ancient financial realm
that has driven God out. And one other thing, if you go back seven years, not only do you
find 9/11, but you find the other greatest crash in American history up to that point,
and when did that take place? It happened on the exact same Hebrew date, the 29th day
of Elul, the day of judgment of the nation’s financial realm that has turned away from
God, driven him out. It's mind-boggling, mind-boggling. And there's so much. But the call is: God
is calling America back.
How soon do you think the final blow will come? Is there timing in the Hebrew that you
found?
Well, with ancient Israel, it was 10 years, which we're around there now. Ten years. With
Judah—it's the same pattern. There was an initial strike, and there was a total collapse—it
was 20 years. So we can't say exactly. There is a pattern, but with America, the things
that we are now in this period of hanging in the balance, and certainly if we say after
9/11, have we returned to God?
No.
It’s turned more away from God. And so God is calling America to return. God is calling
His people to return. You said earlier, and that's the word I had. He is calling America,
the people of God, we have to pray. “If My people who are called by My name shall
humble themselves and pray.” He is calling each of us to consecrate ourselves, to pray
for America—the time is late—and you turn away from whatever we have to turn away from
and get back to Him. Be light, spread the word.
Without question. You know, it's an amazing thing that George Bush as president said the
way to deal with this matter is to go out and everybody shop and spend money.
Yes, exactly.
Shop. Spend money.
Exactly, Yeah. And that's exactly an end. I mean, we couldn't even go into it, but he
was actually the Federal Reserve that took actions right then. They took an action on
the day of that first collapse after 9/11, and the action they took—there is an Isaiah
9:10 effect in the book saying that as the nation seeks to come back without repenting,
it's going to actually bring about the next shaking, the next collapse. Exactly what happened,
as America said, “We're going to cut the interest rates,” that actually produced
this house of cards. 9/11 actually produced, actually brought about the economic collapse.
Amazing.
Phew. Incredible. How did God give this to you? Was this is sort of a revelation? I mean,
did the Holy Spirit?
It just happened. It was like one step after the other. I didn't know where it was going.
It just kept leading and leading to the next step until it just opened up and exploded.
Well, Jonathan, I tell you, this is one great book. Ladies and gentlemen, you want to get
this. Can we get this book. Is it available now?
The official release, I think, happens to be today. It wasn't planned. It happens to
be today, and I think it's available everywhere Amazon, everywhere.
Well, you don't want to miss it. The Harbinger, folks. This is a read you need to make, and
maybe our leaders will read it. So the answer is national repentance. We've got to come
back to God.
Absolutely. As a nation and the people of God we are accountable. There are people who
are just handing it out to everybody, just to get the word out. But we must return; we
must return. And we're in the days of danger.
Well, it's a prophetic word. Thank you so much. God bless you.
Thank you Pat.
We’ll be back with a few questions after this. What an amazing guest, and what an amazing
story! The Harbinger, folks.
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“Do you have any New Year’s resolutions?” That comes from Paul.
I don’t make resolutions, because I never keep them, but what I . . . .
Your honesty’s refreshing.
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