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Alright. Let's get it rolling here now.
I think it's all going to work. At least it should.
So, let's go over here and do Screen Share.
And we'll share the old Desktop.
Start Screen Share. Okay. Wow! That's pretty cool.
Let's get rid of that. Alright, so, if everything's going as
it should be, you should now be seeing
my Desktop, which it appears you are.
So, I was going to, you know, make this...
this here little, little video
with iMovie. Actually, I already had it kind of made down here,
and I thought, well, I'm going to try this new Google Hangouts, the live streaming, and
see how that works. So, let's just,
you know, go with the flow here and see how that works out.
Now what it was was a bit of research for a customer. We're going to
launch Adobe InDesign CC here. I'm on a Macintosh, as
most of you can probably see, Mac Book Pro, on this machine.
And I made some files on older machines.
Matter of fact, the first file we're going to look at was made on a very old iMac,
CS3 and, you know,
the problem is, nowadays, that, if you have a lower version of InDesign,
which there are many people out there that do, which we see with our
bad file fixing service and file conversion and
down saving service that, yeah,
if you have a CS3 or CS4, you can't
open and use CS5, CS6, or CC files,
at least not right now, natively.
And, you know, we help out in that area, but it's very confusing to know,
at the very entry-level start of that whole,
you know, discussion, what version is my file.
So, now we're in InDesign CC. We see the Markzware products up here.
Some of our products, at least. Q2ID (Quark to InDesign) and
PDF to InDesign, PDF2DTP. I'm going to go in here. I'm going to get some
test files, and what we have here is a
CS3 file,
like I said, created on a very old machine.
And when I do
a Command-I on a Mac, I'll get
certain information on that file. For instance, we'll see
that it tells us the kind is InDesign CC
document. Now that's not really
necessarily true. In this case, it doesn't really matter, because
I have CC on this machine, but, if this was really a CC document,
on an older computer,
and it tells me it's a CS4 or CS3
document, now I'd think I can open it, but that wouldn't be the case.
The problem is the Command-I
will give you just information
based on which application you have loaded, not necessarily what
is in the file format itself. It doesn't read the file format,
like Markzware does. Now, what we're going to do here is, now, I'll show you
a little further advanced tricks. So I was wondering if this would help.
What that is you go into InDesign.
Well, you open up this file in InDesign CC and
you get some errors and what you do, when you have the
file open, you hit your... you hold down your Command key,
while doing InDesign > About InDesign. Now, normally, if
I don't hold the Command key, what I get is this, right?
But now if I hold down the Command key,
while doing that, you get this,
the secret, you know, panel. And there's some, you know, there's
some information here that could help you
for fixing bad files and, you know, we might go over that later.
It's what they call a long shot.
It'll help you understand, you know,
some more details. For instance, over here, some good details.
And what we see, once again, it tells us it's a CC file, when it's actually CS3.
Now this, you know, this could affect opening a,
you know, a lower version, and a higher version it could also affect,
with kerning and typography and that sort of stuff. So, you generally want to try
to open and output the file in the same version it was created.
That's just the old tip from way back when, you know, in prepress, but,
generally, it's okay.
I just want to show this quick little tip here and down here,
you got all kind of cool stuff, like
was it a recovered document? No. Was it converted? Yes,
because, you know, it was converted, meaning
it was a CS3 file, so it does see it was converted from CS3,
and from there. Did it come from QuarkXPress? In this case, no. A very interesting one.
I'll show you something on that, in a moment. And down here, we get some
Created On information and we see that it was created last year
and in, indeed, version 5 of
InDesign. Now, you might say, "Version 5 of InDesign?"
Well, what I have here is,
and we did a video on this, by the way,
with the Command-I part, only I didn't go over this part
on our YouTube channel, Which version of InDesign? It goes over these details.
And you can check that out, you know, at a later
time here. But, in any event,
what you see is this chart
we made. We'll have to update it for CC. And when it tells us that it's
version 5, that's not CS5, that's version 5
of InDesign. And version 5, you see, is CS3.
CC would be version 9, CS6 is version 8, etc.
Okay? So, a handy chart we have up on our web page,
and, you know, I'll include a link to that,
later on. So, we see that...
Quite neat that we can see that it was a CS3 file at one time,
by the secret feature,
this hidden feature. Why it's so hidden, I'm not exactly sure.
And what you also see, it tells us, at the end, that,
you know, it converted it, meaning it opened it in CC,
opened as, converted as. It hadn't been Saved As yet, so it's still a
CS3 file.
So, on that note, let's see what FlightCheck tells on this file.
We're not going to save it.
Don't save. I'm going to take that same file, going to drop it down our Dock on FlightCheck.
Now FlightCheck is a stand-alone application, which will pre-flight and package
many file formats, InDesign, QuarkXPress,
Photoshop, Illustrator. Very handy for Photoshop,
for also collecting or packaging everything used in a Photoshop file.
and even the resulting PDF and image formats.
We won't go over the results right now. I just want to dive right into the...
to the nitty gritty of this and we'll see that FlightCheck tells us,
indeed, right away, that it is a version 5,
which we just saw means, of course, CS3,
which is very neat. And we should put a little
icon here, you know, CS3. But, in any event, that just...
really wanted to show this quick tip here, because,
like I said, if you do, if you have a lower version
of InDesign. Let's say
you have a CC file and you have
InDesign CS5.5, it would tell you, on your machine,
it's a CS5.5 file, based on this, you know, Command-I.
It tells you
whatever version you have loaded on your machine, of the application, not of the actual
file itself. So, very dangerous when you're on a lower machine.
And that's where FlightCheck can really help you out, as a small little, you know,
niche on what it can do, because it can do much more, you know,
help you fix files and, you know,
collect the job, package everything, all fonts and images,
and that's really neat, as well. And the last thing I'll show you here...
Let's see. What do I have?
Well, here, let's go. Let's jump on over into
Quark here, just to show you. This is kind of neat.
And then we'll end this first little test and see how it looks
up on YouTube, after its been saved. Pretty neat, this Google Hangouts,
in theory. My son was trying it out, and I was really amazed what he was doing with
it, and with his friends and all that,
and, you know, so here I am.
Alright. So, I'm going to open Quark 9 here.
And this is a test file.
This is a test file
from a customer. And what you see in Quark, they have these nice tabs
up top, and these are actually individual layouts.
Within one file, you get multiple files actually.
So, extremely handy.
So extremely handy.
Now, in InDesign, they don't really have this, so,
I'm going to quit now out of Quark, and go back over into InDesign CC.
And what you see, when we convert
with Q2ID, the Quark file,
the same Quark file down here,
we get prompted to
Select a Layout or do All.
And, if we do All,
it'll actually
convert one layout tab after the other. InDesign doesn't necessarily have this
layout... I mean, it looks like it has tab layouts, but they're actually
individual files, you know, individual
.indd files. Now, what is
interesting, when you do now that InDesign...
I'll hold down Command key, About InDesign. And when you go into the document history,
you'll see, you'll say, Convert from QuarkXPress? Yes.
So, it is kind of neat that you can see that.
That is very neat.
And yeah, now, of course, it is a CC file.
Now, there is something
we could do in InDesign.
What we could do is take this,
like, take this
as the base.
Okay, I'm not sure, I think
I got a little bug on this Hangout thing.
Don't open any other browser besides Chrome.
In any event, don't open Safari and Chrome at the same time, because
whatever I did didn't seem to work out too well. Anyway, it's just a test.
We'll try to work on this a little bit. What's cool is you can know what kind of
interaction and comments and things like that.
In any event, maybe something to... that we'll do more frequently
Alright, everybody, thank you. David Dilling from Markzware,
wishing you a fantastic day!
Okay, now we'll Stop Broadcast.