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IS THAT NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU?
SERIOUSLY.
YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO JOIN
THE NRA AFTER 20 CHILDREN ARE
BLOWN TO PIECES, BECAUSE YOU'RE
WORRIED YOU'LL ONLY BE LEFT WITH
2,300 TYPES OF GUN TO SHOOT.
>> HEY, PIERS, THOSE CHILDREN
WERE BLOWN AWAY IN A GUN-FREE
ZONE.
SO I THINK IT'S KIND OF SILLY TO
BLAME GUNS.
THE FACT IS, WHEN A NUT CASE
SEES A SIGN THAT SAYS GUN-FREE
ZONE, HE KNOWS HE'S GOT A FREE
SHOT TO KILL PEOPLE.
SO I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF GUN-FREE
ZONES EITHER, BY THE WAY.
GUNS IN THE RIGHT HANDS PROTECT
PEOPLE.
GUNS IN THE WRONG HANDS SHOULD
BE TAKEN AWAY.
WOULD HE WE DON'T WANT GUNS IN
THE HANDS OF MENTALLY ILL
PEOPLE.
BUT THE NRA PROTECTS MY RIGHTS
TO HAVE A GUN, NOTHING WRONG
WITH THAT.
>> WOULD YOU ARM EVERY SCHOOL,
HOSPITAL, EVERY CHURCH, EVERY
SHOPPING MALL, EVERY PERSON THAT
WORKS IN THOSE PLACES?
>> NO, THAT WAS AN NRA
STATEMENT, AND I NEVER
NECESSARILY AGREED WITH IT.
WELL, YOU'RE A SIGNED UP MEMBER
TO THE NRA AND SAID YOU DON'T
BELIEVE IN GUN-FREE ZONES.
SO TO REMOVE ANY GUN-FREE ZONES
THESE MASS SHOOTERS APPARENTLY
DELIBERATELY TARGET, ALTHOUGH
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY ZERO
EVIDENCE FROM ANY OF THE 60 OR
70 MASS SHOOTINGS IN AMERICA THE
LAST 30 YEARS, ANY OF THEM, HAS
EVER LEFT A NOTE SAYING I
TARGETED THAT PLACE BECAUSE IT
WAS A GUN-FREE ZONE.
BUT BY YOUR LOGIC, YOU WOULD
WANT TO ARM EVERY NURSE, EVERY
CLERGYMAN, EVERY SCHOOL TEACHER,
EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN ANY
PUBLIC PLACE IN AMERICA, WOULD
HAVE TO BE ARMED TO PREVENT THE
GUN-FREE ZONE SCENARIO TAKING
PLACE.
>> NOT TRUE, PIERS.
I'M A LIBERTARIAN CONSERVATIVE.
AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS, EVERYONE
SHOULD HAVE THE CHOICE TO BE
ARMED.
I DON'T WANT TO ARM ANYONE.
I DON'T WANT TO FORCE ANYONE TO
BE ARMED.
I DON'T WANT TO FORCE ANYONE TO
BE INVOLVED WITH GUNS WHO
DOESN'T WANT TO BE INVOLVED WITH
GUNS.
I'M JUST SAYING, YOU SHOULDN'T
FORCE PEOPLE TO BE DISARMED.
LIBTARIANISM MERELY MEANS,
EVERYONE GETS A CHOICE.
AND THAT'S WHAT AMERICA IS
ABOUT.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT MAKES
AMERICA GREAT AND THAT'S WHY
IT'S WORKED FOR ALL THESE YEARS.
LET'S NOT PASS MORE LAWS THAT
LIMIT PEOPLE'S FREEDOMS.
LET'S GIVE PEOPLE A CHOICE.
THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
>> WELL, IT WAS ONLY ACTUALLY A
LAW TO PREVENT MILITARY STAR
MACHINE GUNS BEING ON CIVILIAN
STREETS AND ALSO HIGH-CAPACITY
MOOING MAGAZINES.
>> I'M AWARE.
>> ALSO BRINGING IN BACKGROUND
CHECKS FOR GUNS.
BUT OH, NO, NONE OF THESE COULD
GET THROUGH THE SENATE.
YOU KNOW WHY, BECAUSE THE NRA
BULLIED THEM SO THEY DECIDED TO
BE CORRIDORLY.
YOU CAN'T BRING BACKGROUND
CHECKS INTO A COUNTRY WHEN 20
CHILDREN GET KILLED IN A
CLASSROOM?
WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERICA?
WHEN THAT HAPPENS?
SERIOUSLY.
>> WELL, YOU SAY WHAT'S WRONG
WITH AMERICA.
BUT YOUR HOME COUNTRY OF ENGLAND
HAS BASICALLY BANNED HANDGUNS IN
THE HANDS OF LAW ABIDING
CITIZENS.
>> AND GUESS WHAT, WE DON'T GET
ANYBODY SHOT DEAD IN BRITAIN.
WE HAVE ABOUT 30 TO 40 MURDERS
WITH GUNS A YEAR.
THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT WITH
GUNS.
>> PIERS, THE POINT IS THAT IN
ENGLAND, AND THIS IS A STAT NOT
FROM WAYNE ROOT BUT THE FBI AND
YOUR VERSION OF THE FBI IN
ENGLAND, THE STATISTICS SHOW
THAT VIOLENT CRIME IS OVER
THREE-AND-A-HALF TIMES LARGER IN
ENGLAND THAN IT IS IN THE UNITED
STATES, EVEN THOUGH GUNS ARE
BANNED.
ASK THOSE MUSLIM EXTREMIST
TERRORISTS THE OTHER DAY, THEY
HACKED A MAN TO DEATH WITH A
BUTCHER KNIFE.
THEY CUT HIS HEAD OFF IN THE
MIDDLE OF THE STREET IN LONDON.
THEY DIDN'T NEED A GUN TO DO
THAT.
YOU CAN COULD KILL PEOPLE ANY
WAY YOU WANT.
A ROPE WILL HANG A MAN.
A GUN WILL KILL A MAN AND SO
WILL A BUTCHER KNIFE.
>> HOW MANY OF THOSE -- HOW MANY
OF THOSE SCHOOL CHILDREN WOULD
HAVE BEEN KILLED IF ADAM LANZA
HAD A ROPE AT SANDY HOOK?
>> WELL, IF GUNS ARE THE REASON
FOR SANDY HOOK AND ALL THESE
PROBLEMS, I THINK WE SHOULD
DISARM BARACK OBAMA'S SECURITY
FORCE.
>> THE POINT IS -- THE POINT IS,