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NOR'EASTER ON THURSDAY OF THIS
COMING WEEK.
SEAN?
>> Sean: BY THE WAY, THAT HEAVY
BLUE IS GOING OVER MY HOUSE.
I GUESS I'LL BE SKIING HOME
TONIGHT.
EVERYBODY BE SAFE.
>>> MY NEXT GUEST, WHO HAPPENS
TO BE A WORLD FAMOUS BRAIN
SURGEON HAS BECOME EVEN MORE OF
A SENSATION AFTER LECTURING
PRESIDENT OBAMA ON SOME OF HIS
BIGGEST OBSTACLES, THOSE BEING
THE DEBT, TAXES AND HEALTHCARE.
JUST YESTERDAY AT THE NATIONAL
PRAYER BREAKFAST, STANDING ONLY
A FEW FEET FROM THE PRESIDENT,
DR. BENJAMIN CARSON TOOK TO THE
PODIUM AND SHARED SOME, WELL,
PRETTY AMAZING SMART ADVICE.
LISTEN TO THIS.
>> OUR DEFICIT IS A BIG PROBLEM.
THINK ABOUT IT.
[APPLAUSE]
OUR NATIONAL DEBT,
$16.5 TRILLION.
YOU THINK THAT'S NOT A LOT OF
MONEY.
TELL YOU WHAT, COUNT ONE NUMBER
PER SECOND, ONE NUMBER PER
SECOND.
YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE
YOU TO COUNT TO 16 TRILLION,
5,007 YEARS.
SOME PEOPLE SAY, THEY SAY, WELL,
THAT'S NOT FAIR BECAUSE IT
DOESN'T HURT GUY WHO MADE
$10 BILLION AS MUCH AS THE GUY
WHO MADE 10.
WHERE DOES IT SAY YOU HAVE TO
HURT THE GUY?
HE JUST PUT A BILLION DOLLARS IN
THE POT.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED HURT
HIM.
>> AMAZING SPEECH.
MOVE OVER, PRESIDENT OBAMA, THE
DOCTOR IS IN THE HOUSE.
JOINING ME THE AUTHOR OF
"AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL, A
DIRECTOR OF PEDIATRIC
NEUROSURGERY, DR. BENJAMIN
CARSON.
DOCTOR, THAT SPEECH MOVED ME
DEEPLY.
WHAT'S BEEN THE REACTION SO FAR?
>> THE REACTION HAS BEEN
OVERWHELMING.
WE'VE BEEN DELUGED WITH EMAILS,
WITH CALLS.
99.5% POSITIVE.
>> Sean: WOW.
>> THAT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME,
BECAUSE THE WAY THAT I LAY
THINGS OUT WAS REALLY LOGICAL.
IT WASN'T RIGHT WING, IT WASN'T
LEFT WING.
IT WAS JUST LOGIC AND COMMON
SENSE.
THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE STARVING
FOR, COMING OUT OF WASHINGTON,
D.C.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE LEFT OUR
BRAINS.
>> Sean: I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE
DID EITHER.
BEFORE I GET INTO THE CONTENT --
AND IT WAS VERY DEEP AND
PROFOUND TO ME, SIMPLE YET
PROFOUND.
YOUR BACKGROUND IS AMAZING.
YOU TALKED ABOUT IT IN YOUR
SPEECH.
YOUR MOM MARRIED AT 13 ONE OF 24
CHILDREN, YOU GREW UP IN
POVERTY, AND YOU HAD A VERY --
YOU SAID YOU WERE NOT A GOOD
STUDENT, BUT TELL US A LITTLE
BIT -- TELL US THAT STORY,
BECAUSE I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS
TO HEAR IT.
>> YEAH.
WELL, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I HAD
ALL THE STRIKES AGAINST ME,
SINGLE PARENT HOME, DIRE
POVERTY, POOR SELF-ESTEEM,
HORRIBLE TEMPER.
THESE THINGS TEND TO PRECLUDE
SUCCESS.
AND THEY WOULD HAVE IN MY CASE
ALSO, BUT MY MOTHER, WHO HAD
ONLY A THIRD GRADE EDUCATION,
REFUSED TO BE A VICTIM.
THAT WAS THE KEY.
SHE NEVER FELT SORRY FOR
HERSELF.
AND THAT WAS A GOOD THING.
BUT A PROBLEM WAS, SHE NEVER
FELT SORRY FOR US EITHER.
YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NEVER AN
EXCUSE THAT WE COULD GIVE THAT
WAS GOOD ENOUGH.
IF WE GAVE AN EXCUSE, SHE WOULD
COME OUT WITH A POEM CALLED
"YOURSELF TO BLAME."
AFTER A WHILE, WE JUST STOPPED
LOOKING FOR EXCUSES.
BUT SHE WORKED AS A DOMESTIC TWO
AND THREE JOBS AT A TIME,
BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T WANT TO BE ON
WELFARE.
EVEN THOUGH SHE ONLY HAD A THIRD
GRADE EDUCATION, SHE WAS VERY
OBSERVANT, AND NOTICED ANYONE
GOING ON WELFARE EVER CAME OFF.
SHE DIDN'T WANT TO BE DEPENDENT,
AND DIDN'T WANT US TO BE
DEPENDENT EITHER.
SHE WOULD WORK AS HARD AND AS
LONG AS NECESSARY.
>> Sean: WOW.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS SHE
OBSERVED IN THE HOMES WHERE SHE
WORKED, PEOPLE DIDN'T WATCH A
LOT OF TV, THEY SPENT A LOT OF
TIME READING AND STRATEGIZING.
ONE DAY SHE CAME HOME AND TURNED
THE TV OFF, SAID YOU WATCH TOO
MUCH TV.
IF YOU IMPROVE YOURSELF, IF YOU
IMPROVE YOUR BRAIN, ONE DAY
PEOPLE WILL BE WATCHING YOU ON
TELEVISION.
OF COURSE SHE WAS RIGHT ABOUT
THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, I HATED READING,
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT SHE IMPOSED
UPON US.
YOU'VE GOT READ TWO BOOKS APIECE
FROM THE DETROIT PUBLIC LIBRARY
AND SUBMIT TO ME WRITTEN BOOK
REPORTS, WHICH SHE COULDN'T
READ, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
I HATED IT, BECAUSE EVERYBODY
ELSE WAS OUTSIDE PLAYING, HAVING
A GOOD TIME, BUT AS I STARTED
READING THINGS BEGAN TO HAPPEN.
I WAS LOOKING AT WORDS ALL THE
TIME.
SUDDENLY I COULD SPELL.
I WASN'T THE FIRST ONE TO SIT
DOWN IN A SPELLING BEE.
GRAMMAR AND SIN TAX.
I LEARNED HOW TO EXPRESS MYSELF.
YOU LEARN HOW TO USE YOUR
IMAGINATION RATHER THAN JUST
OBSERVING SOMEBODY ELSE'S
IMAGINATION.
ALL OF THOSE MAKE YOU INTO A
TERRIFIC STUDENT WITHIN THE
SPACE OF A YEAR AND A HALF I
WENT FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE
CLASS TO THE TOP OF THE CLASS
AND BEGAN TO HAVE A MUCH
DIFFERENT VIEW OF MYSELF.
>> Sean: YOU HAD TO DO TWO BOOK
REPORTS.
AND YOU SAID YOUR MOTHER DIDN'T
KNOW HOW TO READ THEM, BUT
CONVINCED SHE DID.
>> YES.
SHE PUT CHECKMARKS AND
HIGHLIGHTS ON THEM.
WE WOULD THINK SHE WAS READING
THEM.
>> Sean: WOW.
>> I WILL TELL YOU, TO HER
CREDIT, SHE DID EVENTUALLY GET
HER GED.
SHE WENT ON TO COLLEGE, AND IN
1994 SHE GOT AN HONORARY
DOCTORATE.
SHE'S DR. CARSON, TOO,.
>> Sean: YOU TALKED ABOUT
POLITICAL CORRECT NUGGETS.
YOU SAID IT'S DANGER, IT MUZZLES
PEOPLE.
YOU SAID THERE'S A PC POLICE
FORCE OUT THERE.
YOU SAID IT PREVENTS PEOPLE FROM
SAYING WHAT THEY MEAN, THAT WE
NEED TO GET OVER OUR
SENSITIVITY.
EXPLAIN THAT.
>> YEAH.
WELL, YOU KNOW, HERE'S A NATION,
ONE OF THE FOUNDING PILLARS WAS
FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND FREEDOM OF
EXPRESSION.
AND YET WE HAVE IMPOSED UPON
PEOPLE RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT THEY
CAN SAY, ON WHAT THEY CAN THINK.
AND THE MEDIA, I THINK, IS THE
LARGEST PROPONENT OF THIS,
CRUCIFYING PEOPLE WHO SAY THINGS
REALLY INNOCENTLY.
I MEAN, YOU THINK BACK A FEW
WEEKS AGO, THE SPORTSCASTER WHO
COMMENTED ON THE BEAUTY OF THE
QUARTERBACK'S FEMALE, AND PEOPLE
THOUGHT, OH, THAT CAN'T BE
RIGHT.
THERE WAS A BIG BROUHAHA.
PEOPLE FINALLY REALIZED, I GUESS
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT.
THE WOMAN WAS EVEN THANKFUL FOR
THE COMPLIMENT.
BUT THIS IS THE LEVEL OF
SILLINESS THAT WE'VE RISEN TO.
>> Sean: DOCTOR, STAY RIGHT
THERE.
WE'LL COME BACK.
YOUR AMAZING STORY, THIS
INCREDIBLE SPEECH THAT YOU GAVE.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW
YOU'RE SAYING THE FABRIC OF
AMERICAN SOCIETY NOW IS BEING
CHANGED.
YOU TALK ABOUT EDUCATION, TAXES,
THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.
WE'LL HAVE MORE WITH DR. CARSON
RIGHT AFTER THE BREAK.
AND STILL TO COME TO --
>> I VOTED TWICE.
>> LEGAL VOTES?
>> YES, ABSOLUTELY.
>> Sean: AN OHIO POLL WORKER IS
CONVINCED VOTING TWICE IS
ABSOLUTELY FINE.
WE HAVE THAT STORY ON BLATANT
>> Sean: WELCOME BACK.
WE CONTINUE WITH THE AUTHOR OF
"AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL,"
DR. BENJAMIN CARSON.
DR. CARSON, A LOT HAS BEEN MADE
OF THE FACT THAT SOME OF THE
THINGS YOU DISCUSSED IN THIS
SPEECH ARE POLICIES THAT ARE
VERY CONTRARY TO THE PRESIDENT.
YOU TALKED AT LENGTH ABOUT
AMERICA'S EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM
FAILING, WE'RE BEING DUMBED-DOWN
IS A PHRASE YOU USED.
THE DANGERS OF OUR DEBT AND
DEFICIT.
CLASS WARFARE, WHICH YOU SPOKE
OUT AGAINST.
THE TAX ISSUE, HEALTH SAVINGS
ACCOUNTS, THAT ROME CAN HAPPEN
TO AMERICA.
WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE TO THOSE
THAT SAID, WOW, YOU SAID THAT IN
FRONT OF THE PRESIDENT?
>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I SHOULD
SAY THAT THERE'S MY OWN VIEWS.
THEY DON'T REPRESENT THE
UNIVERSITY THAT I'M EMPLOYED BY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY DIDN'T
MATTER WHO I WAS SITTING IN
FRONT OF, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I
ALWAYS PRAY BEFORE I GIVE A
SPEECH, AND I ASK GOD TO GIVE ME
THE RIGHT THINGS TO SAY.
I THINK THAT IT'S VERY RARE
THESE DAYS FOR PEOPLE TO SPEAK
THE TRUTH.
EVERYBODY WANTS TO GO ALONG TO
GET ALONG.
IN THE MEANTIME THE FABRIC OF
OUR NATION IS BEING DESTROYED.
WE'RE GOING FROM A CAN DO NATION
TO A WHAT CAN YOU DO FOR ME
NATION?
I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT MOST
PEOPLE WANT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S PRESENTED TO
THEM AS THE THING TO DO.
AND ONE OF THE REAL DANGERS,
WHICH I ALLUDED TO IN THE SPEECH
IS THE FACT THAT PEOPLE DON'T
KNOW ANYTHING.
THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT HISTORY.
THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT
TECHNOLOGY.
THEY KNOW SO LITTLE THAT THE
NEWS MEDIA IS ABLE TO TELL THEM
WHATEVER THEY WANT THEM TO
THINK.
THEY SAY IT ENOUGH TIMES AND
PEOPLE SAY, OH, YEAH, YEAH,
WELL, THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID ON
THE NEWS.
THEY DON'T THINK FOR THEMSELVES.
THE FOUNDERS OF OUR NATION SAID
OUR NATION WILL FUNDAMENTALLY
CHANGE WHEN PEOPLE BECOME SO
IGNORANT THAT THEY CAN BE EASILY
LED.
>> Sean: WOULD YOU EVER RUN FOR
PRESIDENT, SIR?
>> IF THE LORD GRABBED ME BY THE
COLLAR AND MADE ME DO IT, I
WOULD.
IT'S NOT MY INTENTION.
>> Sean: I WOULDN'T WISH THAT ON
YOU, BUT I'D VOTE FOR YOU IN A
HEARTBEAT.
>> WELL, THANK YOU.
I HAD SO MANY EMAILS FROM PEOPLE
SAYING THAT, I COULD PROBABLY
FINANCE MY CAMPAIGN IF EACH ONE
GAVE ME A NICKEL.
>> Sean: OKAY.
I SHARE YOUR CONCERN.
MORALLY I SEE A DECAY IN THE
COUNTRY.
$16.5 TRILLION IN DEBT SCARES
ME.
WE'RE STEALING FROM OUR KIDS.
YOU CAME UP WITH A GREAT IDEA.
I'VE ALWAYS BELIEVED IN HEALTH
SAVINGS ACCOUNT.
I DON'T LIKE CLASS WARFARE.
WHAT CA WE DO TO CHANGE THINGS?
YOU SAID WE CAN EITHER GO DOWN
THE DIRECTION OF ROME OR WE CAN
CHANGES THINGS?
>> WELL, I THINK THE BRAVE
LEADERS, NOT THE ONES WHO ARE
JUST RAMPED UP IN THEIR EGOS --
AND I'M NOT POINTING THIS AT ANY
PARTICULAR PERSON OR PARTY, BUT
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH A
LOT OF HUBRIS THAT THINK MY WAY
OR THE HIGHWAY.
THE REASON I GAVE THE EXAMPLE OF
THE EGO, LEFT WING AND RIGHT
WING, ALL GOOD IDEAS DON'T
RESIDE IN ONE PARTY, BUT AS THE
BIBLE SAYS IN A MULTITUDE OF
COUNSELORS OF SAFETY.
IN ORDER TO USE THE COUNSELORS,
WE GOT TO GET RID OF POLITICAL
CORRECTNESS, LET PEOPLE SAY WHAT
THEY MEAN, PUT THEIR IDEAS OUT
ON THE TABLE AND EXPLAIN WHY
THEY'RE GOOD IDEAS.
I WOULD BE WILLING TO DEBATE
ANYONE ON THE PRESIDENT'S TEAM
ON HEALTHCARE, HOW IT SHOULD BE
ADMINISTERED, HOW IT SHOULD BE
DONE FOR LESS MONEY.
>> Sean: WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF
TIME.
I WANT YOU TO COME BACK, TELL
THE STORY, YOU EXPLAINED IT SO
WELL ON FRANCIS SCOTT KEY, I'LL
INVITE AUSTIN SCOTT GOOLSBEE,
AND IF YOU'D COME BACK, WE'LL
DISCUSS THAT.
I HOPE YOU'LL COME BACK AND SEE
US AGAIN.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THANK YOU.
>> Sean: COMING UP NEXT, THE
OHIO POLL WORKER WHO VOTED FOR