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bjbj David: All right, let's talk about North Korea, South Korea. I don't... This story,
even the first thing I say about it, is already going to arguably be one-sided, in the sense
that each side is disputing how this incident started. If you talk to those in South Korea,
they say that they were practicing, doing some war exercises, some artillery exercises,
in an area of water that is part of South Korea. North Korea, on the other hand, says
that South Korea, they believed they were under attack from South Korea. So this was
2:34 pm Korea Standard Time. North Korean artillery started shelling the South Korean
island of Yongpyong. Now, North Korea claimed it only fired after the South, quote, "recklessly
fired into our sea area." No surprise that we hear this from North Korea, is it? Louis:
No, not at all. David: The question is, is it true? Did they really think that they were
under attack? Louis: It doesn't matter what North Korea says, I am siding with South Korea
on this one. David: You don't even care. Louis: I think if there's any country in the world
that we should be concerned about it should be North Korea. David: You're more concerned
about North Korea than even Switzerland? Louis: I think that's fair to say, yeah. David: So
since the armistice, since the signing of the armistice between the U.S. and North...
between the UN, rather, and North Korea in 1953, North Korea has always disputed where
the western maritime border actually is. South Korea calls it the northern limit line. Now,
instead of recognizing the northern limit line, the North Korean government claims the
border is farther south, and that it actually includes a bunch of fishing grounds and even
some islands like the South Korean island in question here. So South Korea admits to
having staged this artillery exercise there. South Korean military responded to the shelling
from North Korea with some self-propelled Howitzers, and the power was knocked out,
actually, in the South Korean island of Yongpyong. Several fires broke out. South Korean Air
Force also scrambled some F-16 fighter jets into the area. It was reported that after
it was all said and done, North Korea fired more than 100 shells and South Korea fired
80. So question number one, do we believe that North Korea really thought they were
under threat from South Korea, or is this just an excuse from Kim Jong-il and his son,
who has now taken over formally, I guess, in North Korea? Louis, you say you don't believe
they were... they knew that this was just an exercise. Louis: Well, South Korea didn't
actually fire onto any land, right? I mean, they were firing into water. David: South
Korea... right. Louis: Where presumingly there was nothing. David: That's right. Louis: So,
I mean, what's really the threat there? David: Well, arguably that it was North Korean water
I guess is the idea. The casualty count was there were two South Korean marines who were
killed, six were seriously wounded, 10 were treated for minor injuries, three civilians
were wounded. So there were several casualties here. The markets were down, currencies were
affected. The international reaction was really pretty mixed. I mean, the White House said
that they condemned the attacks, that North Korea was acting in a belligerent way. A very
different reaction, Louis, from American teenagers. They were just outraged that Kim Jong-il had
the audacity to ruin Miley Cyrus's 18th birthday with this shelling. That's really the concern
for a lot of American teenagers, they didn't like that one bit. Louis: Well, that's an
unfortunate disaster, but irrelevant. David: Hey, sorry, Miley. Louis: Sorry, yeah. David:
It happened. Every time I hear anything about North Korea, well, number one, I think about
you know what, which is of course the North Korean techno song which we're well acquainted
with. And for whatever reason, even though it's playing... There it is. [Music] David:
It's a good song. This is what they get down to in North Korea, Louis. The first verse
is really the best part here. It sounds like it's actually a midi file, doesn't it? Louis:
It does. David: Remember in 1993 when we first got computers and you could make music with
just tones, midi tones? That's actually what the North Korean techno sounds like. The funniest
thing to come out of this, I hate that everything now is revolving around Sarah Palin. I hate
it, but I love it in a sense. Her latest comment is she confused not repudiation with refudiation,
Louis, she confused North and South Korea. The question is, and I'll play the clip for
you, did she confuse the countries or does she just not know her compass directions?
In other words, did she know which one, which country it was, she just thought the one on
top is South Korea and vice versa? Let's take a listen to what she said. Hopefully. If we're
lucky, we'll take a listen. Here we go. [CLIP] Glenn Beck: Sarah, you said in the last few
days that you are considering a run for president, and polls show that you would probably win
the Republican nomination. How would you handle a situation like just developed in North Korea?
Sarah Palin: Well, North Korea, this is stemming from I think a greater problem when we're
all sitting around asking, 'Oh no, what are we gonna do?' and we're not having a lot of
faith that the White House is going to come out with a strong enough policy to sanction
what it is that North Korea's going to do. So this speaks to a bigger picture here that
certainly scares me in terms of our national security policies. But obviously, gotta stand
with our North Korean allies. We're bound to by treaty. We're also bound by... Beck:
South Korea... Palin: Yeah. And we're also bound by... [END CLIP] David: Yeah. It doesn't
even phase her. For her, it's just not a big deal. For her, it is all just, it's semantics.
North Korea, South Korea, you know what I mean. We stand with our allies. Yeah. She
just responds, 'Yeah, that's what I meant.' Louis: It's psychobible. [Laughter] David:
It literally is. Sarah Palin is inyuandating us with geography. Louis: With psychobible.
David: With geography, essentially. And North Korea, South Korea, this speaks to the White
House in some way. Did you understand a single word of that? Louis: No. David: Honestly,
from the entire statement from Sarah Palin about North and South Korea, the part that
made the most sense was her saying we need to stand by our North Korean allies. That's
the only part I even understood. Louis: Right. Very... That's a good one. It's one for the
sound boards. David: It is good. So there's obviously... it is hilarious that we are getting
this type of feedback from Sarah Palin, and so on and so forth, but to talk seriously
about what happened, if we actually ask ourselves what is the real cause of what happened here,
there's a number of different options that aren't being reported or talked about openly.
Let me give you an example. Kim Jong-il recently turned things over I guess in some formal
sense to one of his sons, Kim Jong-un. And some are saying this was just a show of power
to show that Kim Jong-un is just as crazy... oh, I'm sorry, that's not what they would
say, that he is just as determined and a fearless leader as Kim Jong-il. And this may just have
been trumped up for that reason. North Korea knew there was going to be this artillery
test, and they're just going to see what happens just to show that Kim Jong-un is still in
power and he's just as crazy and powerful. Others are saying, and this is sad, that North
Korea is so in need of food aid from other countries that they were trying to provoke
an incident that would lead to just enough destruction in North Korea as a result of
the retaliation from the South so that humanitarian food missions would actually go and bring
them food, which is, it actually makes perfect sense, and it's pretty horrendous. It really
is pretty horrible if that's the level of oppression that we're seeing. Louis: It sounds
far-fetched. It's hard to believe that things are that bad even in North Korea. David: Oh,
it doesn't sound far-fetched to me at all. There was a fascinating documentary that everybody
should see on www.vbs.tv, it's about North Korea, and a couple of people sneak in there,
they have to bribe people in China to get visas, and they're flown in early in the morning.
It is incredible, and it will really expose you to... if you think that this, that causing
retaliation to get food aid is far-fetched for North Korea, absolutely not, Louis. You've
got to watch this documentary. It is compelling. And our poll question for the next week is
going to be, it is now on HYPERLINK "http://www.DavidPakman.com" www.DavidPakman.com , how likely is it that
the U.S. will get involved militarily in the Korean Peninsula? Some are saying this is
an isolated incident, we're not going to hear any more of it, others saying this could go
the distance. So vote in the poll, www.DavidPakman.com, we'll have results next week. David: All right,
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