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[Audience member] We heard something from His Divine Eminence, What is it?
[Audience member] about Jesus speaking in infancy.
[Audience member] in regards to Jesus. What was it?
that Jesus was speaking in infancy.
[HDE] said that this is not such a great miracle, even I can do this.
Really?
[Audience member] Yes, and He said, ‘The soul is fully alert before it is inserted into the body.
However, as soon as it is inserted into the body the Satan immediately injects its own agents into the body.
which mutes the soul, and it is only able to speak once it is reawakened.
Therefore, if a baby is about to be born and someone says that they want to hear it talk,
I will simply ask the Satan to disappear for a while; ask the soul to speak and it will speak.’
Do you believe this?
[Audience] Yes, sir.
Now, all those ailments attached with the Qalb (heart), Rouh (Soul), Sirri (Subtlety of Secret), Ikhfa (Subtlety of Obscure),
Have you ever thought about getting rid of those ailments?
[Audience] Yes, sir.
How will you rid yourself of those ailments?
[Audience member] When the subtleties become enlightened with the help of Dhikr (Invocation of the name of God).
Please translate what I say in English, [Audience member] Yes, sir.
The six souls come from the celestial realms
When a baby is born six souls come from the celestial realms.
One in the intellect, and the other five in the breast.
It is the angels’ job to insert them in the body,
and it is all done before the first breath is taken.
However, if the soul is inserted after the first breath is taken, how can the soul be accountable for that moment?
Because the baby was not a human being [in that moment].
Do you understand?
[Audience] Yes sir.
The baby was not a human being, and accountability is for human beings.
For this reason, the angels are strictly ordered to be right on time.
If they arrive just a moment too late, God tells them to let it be.
And the baby does not become a human being.
In the Primordial Times (Youm-e-Azal), Allah asked all souls, 'Am I not your Lord?’ (أَلَسْتُ بِرَبِّكُمْ)?'
All souls affirmed in positive (قَالُوا بَلَى).' All the souls said, ‘Indeed you are.’
The souls didn't say 'Yes'.
That means all souls recognised their Lord before coming into this world.
Since they knew who their Lord is before their birth, why would they be questioned, 'Who is your Lord’ (رَبُّكَ مان)?' in the grave?
Translate it in English please.
Did you ever ponder? [Audience] No, sir.
The souls were familiar with their Lord, because [in the Primordial Times] God asked them, ‘Am I not your Lord?’ and they souls affirmed in positive.
Which means all of the souls affirmed it.
So, why would you be asked the same question in the grave?
In the Primordial Times, this question was directed towards the souls,
whereas in the grave, this question would be directed towards the Nafs (the Self/Ego).
Why will the Nafs be asked this question?
Because the Nafs belongs to the satanic group,
and this question would be asked to the Nafs to know whether the Nafs has become a human or not.
whether the Lord of the Nafs is still the Devil or Allah.
The Nafs will be asked the question.
The soul knows its Lord but once in this world, it becomes dormant therefore you have to simply reawaken it.
It is written in The Religion of God (Divine Love) [by HDE Gohar Shahi] states, ‘In the End Times, a special soul will come,’
although there are countless souls, one special soul will come from among them.
‘and grant the souls a unique name of the Lord.
That special name of the Lord will pass through the hearts and settle in the souls.'
Now, when all the souls were standing in the Primordial Times,
This is a message for the Malaysians.
All the souls were standing in the Primordial Times, now you should ask the Muslim clerics,
‘Which name did the souls use to call upon God in the Primordial Times?’
What do you say?
What name did they use, when all the souls were standing there?
The specialty of the human soul is that it has been created by Allah,
therefore, the soul does not know any other name for except Allah.
Even if that ‘Allah’ has no benevolence the soul will only say ‘Allah, Allah’.
Did you understand what I said?
[Audience] Yes, sir.
This knowledge is for the Malaysians.
So, when all the souls called upon God with the name ‘Allah’,
those who were standing in the first row said ‘Allah’,
those in the second row must have also said ‘Allah’; those in the third row also said ‘Allah’.
Even the Mineral and Botanical souls said ‘Allah’, all the souls said ‘Allah, Allah’.
Did you understand what I said?
[Audience] Hail Ra Riaz!
All the souls said ‘Allah’.
Now, when the souls said ‘Allah’ [in the Primordial Times], what different does it make whether the body says, ‘God, Raam or Bhagwan’?
If you want to ban others from saying 'Allah,' then attempt to ban the soul! The souls of Hindus, and Christians etc.
This decision from the Malaysian Court is against our mission.
We want to reawaken the souls of people with ‘Allah, Allah’,
and you are banning people from saying the name of Allah,
Therefore this decision is a direct hurdle in the mission of Imam Mehdi [Gohar Shahi].
Now, in the Primordial Times when all souls said 'Allah, Allah,' your religions did not exist.
What do you say?
[Audience] Yes, sir.
When all the souls said 'Allah, Allah', your religions did not exist.
There was only one religion, and that was ‘The Religion of God’.
There was only one religion at the time: God’s religion. There was no other religion.
Did you understand that I said?
[Audience] Yes, sir.
All souls recited the name of Allah and then the souls were divided into groups of ‘Qurb’ (close proximity), ‘Jalwa’ (seeing of God) etc.
These groups were made in the Primordial Times.
Did you understand? [Audience] Yes, sir.
Some souls were destined to be in the close proximity of Allah,
Some souls were divided into the categories (levels) of Emaan.
Some group of souls were able to communicate with God.
All the souls had affirmed that Allah is their Lord therefore, then came the matter of division.
Some souls were to acquire the friendship of God: ‘Remember me and I will remember you.
Remember me in joy and I will remember you in sorrow.’
Some souls would obtain the friendship of God, and others would be able to communicate with Allah as well.
And some souls were told, ‘When you go down to Earth, you will see me and I will see you.’
Once the souls were divided into groups, then the prophets were appointed.
This was because now that they have been divided into groups, who will train the souls to communicate with God?
Who will give the training for the friendship of God?
Who will train them to walk on fire? And who will give the training for Deedar (Seeing of God)?
The training to befriend Allah was given through two prophets: Adam Safi Allah (Adam) and Ibrahim Khaleel Allah (Abraham),
and this comprised only of friendship, and familiarity.
For the souls to remember God and vice versa; for God to help them when calamity strikes, that’s it.
The training to communicate with Allah began from the third prophet, Musa Kaleem Allah (Moses).
The souls who were supposed to be friends of Allah were placed in the category of the prophets who were appointed for this purpose.
The souls who were supposed to communicate [with God], for such souls a prophet was created with an expertise in communication with God.
And then, some souls were told, ‘You will see me and I will see you,’
and Prophet Mohammad was appointed for such souls.
A tag was placed on all souls and placed on the back, which had the details of their respective Prophet,
the era in which the soul would descend on Earth, and through which saint the soul would enter into the Ummah (nation) of his/her prophet.
A tag is placed on the souls, and I have seen that tag with my own eyes and I saw what is written on the tag.
This information that I am giving to you was exchanged between Allah and the Archangel Gabriel.
What is written on the tag?
This soul will enter into the Ummah through this saint, and the era of the saint was also written on the tag.
So, when the era of that particular saint arrived only then should the soul be sent down to Earth.
When the saint comes, the corresponding soul should also come [in that era].
Someone asked me a question a few days ago, I don’t remember who it was,
but they asked me to explain how the living and the dead are granted benevolence?
Was it you? [Audience member] Yes, sir.
Now, I didn’t give you an answer then.
So, I decided to look into the matter, to find out what it means.
And then I found out what it means to grant benevolence to the dead.
Sultan Haq Bahu said, ‘Che zinda che murda (I will guide all, may they be living; may they be deceased)’,
however Prophet Mohammad never said anything like this, so why did he [Sultan Haq Bahu].
When I dug a little deeper, I found out that the angels tend to make mistakes.
Those tags which contain the information about a saint, and the year in which the saint is supposed to come,
[the angels] sent the soul down to Earth before the arrival of the saint.
Therefore, that soul came and then left the world without any benevolence.
When a great number of souls gathered due to the angels’ errors,
then Imam Mehdi Gohar Shahi was requested to grant benevolence to all those souls who have been deprived.
Not every deceased person is going to be granted benevolence.
You cannot say, ’50 people died because of a bomb blast, please grant them benevolence.’
No, they cannot be granted benevolence.
Only those shall be granted benevolence who were the victims of divine error.
God had written [on the tags] that in this particular year, this particular saint shall arrive and only through him the soul will be granted benevolence.
Do you understand?
[Audience] Yes, sir.
Now, I don’t know why and how the angels made mistakes.
You think of them so highly, but they are just angels and they also make mistakes.
Maybe they did not read the tag properly, sometimes they sent the soul too early, and other times too late.
Therefore, many souls were supposed to come.
For example, there were many souls who were supposed to come in the era of Imam Mehdi, however, they were born before the era of Imam Mehdi.
Mirza Ghalib and Allama Iqbal were supposed to obtain Spiritual Grace from Imam Mehdi, but the angels sent them down ahead of time.
Therefore, His Divine Eminence called them [their souls] and granted them Spiritual Grace in the Laal Bagh.
There was another person, Nostradamus, this man was supposed to be born in the era of Prophet Mohammad.
Do you believe what I am saying?
[Audience] Yes, sir, absolutely. Hail Lord RaRiaz!
He was supposed to be born in the era of Prophet Mohammad.
Do you understand?
[Audience] Yes, sir.
He was supposed to be born in the era of Prophet Mohammad, and then do what? Ask me.
[Audience] What was he supposed to do?
He was supposed to be the Sheikh ul Hadith (Keeper of the Prophetic Traditions),
he was to take full responsibility for the Prophetic Traditions.
The book you must have read by Ibn ul Sirin, ‘Sadaqat Ul Royah’ this task was also supposed to be done by him [Nostradamus].
The Prophet [Mohammad] told the signs of the 14th century, this was also supposed to be done by him.
However, he did not come in the era of Prophet Mohammad,
thus God was obligated to grant him his share, and he was awarded his share in the era that he came in.
Do you understand? [Audience] Yes, sir.
When he died, and this news reached Imam Mehdi, then Imam Mehdi blessed his soul.
You’re probably not understanding what I am saying here.
[Audience] No, sir, we are understanding it with your help. It’s a blessing upon us.
Now, the tags were placed.
For example, in the era of Moses God selected a certain number of souls to be allotted in the Ummah of Moses.
Hypothetically speaking, in the Primordial Times a number of souls were selected for the Ummah of Moses, and the quantity shall remain the same here on Earth.
The quantity of souls down here would mirror the quantity up there.
Now, how is it determined exactly when the quantity of souls has been accomplished?
The Saint-hood is terminated in that particular Ummah, because the saints are appointed for the entrance in the Ummah.
Therefore, the saint-hood shall be terminated in that Ummah.
Once the quantity of souls is complete, you may continue to propagate [the religion],
It won’t make a difference because the [real] Ummah arrived and went back already,
no matter how vigorously you recite the Kalima (Declaration of Faith).
Similarly, Prophet Mohammad’s nation has been completed.
We thought about giving an in-depth explanation of Quran, for it will benefit Islam,
and it was a sincere intention, however I found out that there is not a single soul left for the Ummah because the Ummah is complete.
Who would benefit from the explanation of Quran? The Ummah is complete.
When a country is under strife, take for instance England, and a thousand people are in need of help then a plane is flown in for their help.
They send the plane to rescue 200 of the 1000, and 800 people are left behind,
the plane goes back to rescue another 200, now 600 are left so the plane goes back.
Once all of them are rescued there is no need for the plane to go back.
And then, if some people say, ‘The plane is coming! People have been rescued from England, we want to go too!’,
However the plane shall not be going anywhere anymore.
All those people were living in a fool’s paradise.
This is the state of your nation.
You made people recite the Kalima and not a single person was entered into the Ummah.
Why they were not entered into the Ummah?
Because the plane has completed its course. The quantity of the Ummah has been accomplished.
Do you understand? [Audience] Yes, sir.
When all the souls were separated into groups and ranks– God is very cunning,
the souls were given an option when God showed them the luxuries of the world, and the luxuries of paradise.
However, when it was time to separate them into ranks he did not ask them, ‘Which rank would you like?’
rather he chose it for them otherwise,
if given the option of either communicating with God or seeing God, would any soul say ‘I don’t want to see you’?
All souls would have opted to see Allah.
The souls were separated into groups according to the will of Allah.
Then, Allah granted each group a special name that would take them to their destined ranks.
That special name was granted to them.
Do you understand? [Audience] Yes, sir.
So, [to recap] the affirmation of the souls was unanimous, and for the purpose of division a different name was given to each group.
Now, the Muslims say, ‘”Allah” is our name [for God],’
so they just say the name [by word of mouth], they do not possess the name of Allah that was given to Prophet Mohammad.
If they did, they would not be divided, there wouldn’t be any sects.
Their prayers would move mountains and change the course of the waves if the possessed Ism-e-Dhaat (Name of God).
They no longer possess the name of ‘Allah’ that gave the Muslims their eminence.
They just verbally say ‘Allah’, so what difference does it make if a Muslim says, 'Allah,' a Hindu says, 'Allah,
Hence, the Muslims and Hindus and Christians etc. all say ‘Allah’ by their tongue, it makes no difference.
They are all empty inside.
They do not know the name of the Lord which was given in the Primordial Times, and are disputing for no reason.
A Hadith (Prophetic Tradition) states that on the Day of Judgement, the different Ummah (Nations) would be recognised by the type of Divine Light (Noor) they possess.
Each prophet was given a different type of Divine Light.
On the Day of Judgement each nation will be determined by the type of Divine Light they possess.
Moses was given the Divine Light of the name 'Ya Rehman.',
Any soul shining with the Divine Light of 'Ya Rehman,' does not require any paperwork,
it would immediately be recognised as the follower of Moses, whoever may possess it.
There is no other means of recognition [in the Higher Realms].
This is how they recognise the souls.
For example, when we buy a bulb how do we check if it is working or not?
We screw it in, if it lights up it is working.
Similarly, if the soul is shining then it is acceptable.
One whose heart is shining with ‘Ya Rehman’ is recognised as the follower of Moses.
Jesus Christ was given the name of ‘Ya Quddus’, no matter how many people become Christians,
in the eyes of Allah, a Christian is one whose heart is shining with the Divine Light of the name 'Ya Quddus'.
The followers of Prophet Mohammad are those who have the Divine Light of God’s Personal Name (Ism-e-Dhaat Allah Hu).
Whichever name of Allah or Kalima (Declaration of Faith) you recite on Earth is not important,
however, on the Day of Judgement, whichever Kalima is in your heart and soul is of importance.
Allah grants his name to whosoever he wishes.
And if he doesn’t want to give it to someone, he will not.
It is written in the Quran, ‘Allah grants guidance through Divine Light to whomsoever he wishes’ [24:35].
Divine Light does not enter just like that.
The source of Divine Light is the name of the Lord,
and Allah sends appointed dignitaries who implant the name of the Lord within the beating system of the heart.
Once the name of the Lord enters the heart, it generates Divine Light and guides the person.
A Momin is one who possesses the name of the Lord in his heart.
One who does not possess the name of the Lord is misguided,
no matter what religion he may belong to because on the Day of Judgement,
he would not possess the Divine Light of 'Ya Rehman,' or 'Ya Quddus' or 'Allah Hu' or, ‘Ya Wadood’ he would be enveloped in darkness.
Therefore, the angels would say that he is not from any Ummah.
If he was a follower of Moses, his heart would be shining with ‘Ya Rehman,
if he was a follower of Abraham his heart would shine with the name given to Abraham,
if he was a follower of Prophet Mohammad his heart would be shining with ‘Allah Hu’.
Now, if Muslims say, 'Allah,' themselves and ban the Christians,
when they all die and are standing in the Day of Judgment,
then what is the use of such restrictions upon them and your freedom to use the name, 'Allah,' when both are empty inside?
Neither reached their destination.
So, do not restrict anyone from using the name, 'Allah'!
Come here and see whom Allah wishes to grant his name.
Who are you to ban others, when you yourself do not have the name of Allah?
Let’s go to God himself, and ask him whether or not he wishes to grant his name to someone’s heart.
What would you do if Allah gives his name to a Christian and not to a Muslim?
If God says, ‘I will grant my name to a Christian, and not you, a Muslim, you can try to stop me.’
Allah is the creator of all creation; he sent all Prophets and Messengers.
God’s name shall enter the heart of whomever God grants it to.
The Quran says, ‘On the Day of Judgement, successful is one who brings forth a Qalb-e-Saleem (Enlightened Heart).’ [26:88-89]
‘On the Day of Judgement, successful is one who brings an enlightened heart.'
Your wealth and offspring will be left behind in this world.
It is in the verse of Quran [26:88-89], ‘One the Day of Judgement, successful is one who brings an enlightened heart.
Your wealth and offspring will be left behind in this world.
If you want to take something with you, take an enlightened heart.’
Some people say, 'Take good deeds (Amaal),' but Allah does not look at your deeds.
Even the Quran says to bring forth an enlightened heart; so why not take something that has a guarantee?
This is the only way to success and the Lord has said so himself. ‘Successful is one who brings forth an enlightened heart on the Day of Judgement’
He did not specify which name [of God] it should be enlightened with,
it does not matter with which name of the Lord you enlighten our heart you will achieve success,
because the Quran says that the Lord has many beautiful names [7:180].
You are lucky if any one of the names of the Lord enters your heart.
This is written in the Quran, therefore, consider yourself lucky if any of the names of the Lord enters your heart.
You ban them from saying ‘Allah’, but what difference does this make? What matter is whom does God wish to grant his name?
'Allah,' by word of mouth is fruitless because this body did not exist before you were born nor will it exist after your death.
It wasn’t there before we were born, and it will not exist after your death.
But the soul existed before your birth and will continue to exist even after your death.
It is the soul that will ascend to the Higher Realms, therefore it should be enlightened with the name of the Lord.
Now, there is a message for the Malaysian Christians.
We want to tell them, ‘If the Muslims ban you from using the name 'Allah,' this ban is only verbal.
Come, we shall grant your heart and soul the name Allah.
They just need to accept it. This is our message.
They just need to accept it and look at the face of Imam Mehdi Gohar Shahi on the moon or on our website.
Look at the image of HDE Gohar Shahi and say, ‘Allah’ thrice for the last time.
[Audience] Hail Lord Ra Riaz!
After doing so, you will no longer need to say ‘Allah’ with your tongue.
Even we don’t say it verbally, so what does it matter if you have been ‘banned’?
For the last time just say ‘Allah’ thrice, and you don’t even have to say it out loud, just whisper it so that no one hears.
You have been banned to say it with your tongue, and we shall grant it to your hearts and souls!
Then you may remain silent and the invocation of ‘Allah’ will start from within you.
Whether you are in the church, temple, at work, sleeping at home or in the grave, the name of Allah will beat from within your heart.
This is only a verbal ban.
How about the Malaysian Muslims ban somebody’s soul from saying Allah?
Allama Iqbal said, ‘If one says “la Ilah” by word of mouth it brings no gain, unless affirmed by the heart and the intellect.’
This is Imam Mehdi Gohar Shahi’s message to the Christians of Malaysia.
‘You are worried about being banned from using the world, ‘Allah’,
but we are giving you the message to fill your hearts and souls with the name of God!’
You do not need to go anywhere.
Just go on our website, look at the image of Gohar Shahi and recite ‘Allah’ thrice for the last time.
And then you will see, you will be sleeping and your heart will continue to recite, ‘Allah, Allah’.
And it is up to you whether or not you visit the church because the heart will continue to say ‘Allah, Allah’ regardless.
You go to church or mosque to worship Allah,
but when ‘Allah, Allah’ is throbbing in your heart, then what difference does it make whether you are in the church, temple or you are at home?
There was a man searching for something in the jungle and Bayazid Bastami (a Muslim Saint) asked him what he was looking for.
He said, 'I am looking for a clean place to offer my Salat.'
Bayazid said to him, 'Purify your heart and then offer Salat anywhere.'
What is the secret behind this?
The Ulema say, 'If you have not done ablution, then your Salat is not acceptable,
and if the place you are offering Salat is not clean, your Salat will not be accepted.'
But Bayazid said that it does not matter where you offer Salat, rather that you pray with a purified heart;
because it is the purified heart that will take your Salat to the Lord.
The one offering Salat should be purified, if so, the Salat shall reach its destination.
For example, it doesn’t matter how fancy an airport is; the plane will land and take-off whether it is in London or Pakistan.
The plane shall land and take-off even in Nawabshah (city). It is doing what it is designed to do.
Similarly, if the body is well-groomed, well-dressed, and perfumed, it is the heart that will take the Salat to the Lord.
And if the body is unclean and filthy it is still the heart that will take the Salat.
It doesn’t matter whether the airport is clean or not, the plane will do what it is designed to do.
When your heart is throbbing with the name of Allah, it doesn’t matter if you go to a temple, a mosque or neither because the heart will continue to say, ‘Allah, Allah’.
Even the Hindu Scripture says, 'Shiv is within me, Krishna is within me, Vishu is within me, then why should I go to the temple?
Why should I go to the temple when, Krishna, Vishnu Maharaj are within me?
I would go to the temple to search for them!
‘The one who you searched for in the skies and in the worship places was found to be hidden within the darkness of your heart.’
I used to look for God in the skies and he was sitting in my heart but I was unable to see him because of the darkness.
The Quran says, 'I am within you' [51:21] ‘I am within you, why don’t you peep inside yourself?’
Because you don’t know how to, you have to learn to peep inside yourself.
And Imam Mehdi has come to teach you how.
It makes no difference if you are banned to say the name of Allah verbally.
If you are so eager to use the name of Allah, then come and we shall teach the name of Allah to your hearts and souls.
Let’s see how sincere you are in your desire to use Allah’s name.
We will find out how sincere you are.
Come and we shall teach the name of Allah your hearts and souls.
This is our message to the Christians.
And don’t think that you are alone in your quest for God.
The helping hand of Imam Mehdi is ready to help you, test it for yourself!
This message is for all Christians.
You have been banned to say ‘Allah’ verbally, however we are giving you the message to bring Allah in your hearts and souls.
You do not have to do anything, neither do you have convert into any other religion nor do you have to leave your country.
When [the name of God] enters the heart, it only happens with the will of the Lord.
If the name of God enters the heart as per the wish of the Lord, no one can disable it.
No one can take it back out if the name of Allah goes in the heart as per God’s wish.
The tongue can be stopped but the heart and soul cannot, and no one finds out.
This message should reach them because – or, say to the Muslims,
'You are allowed to say the name of Allah therefore, if the name Allah is your inheritance, then make your heart and soul say, “Allah"'
If Ism-e-Allah is still in your inheritance then make our heart and soul say the name of Allah.
If a Muslims think that they inherited the name of Allah then your heart and soul should say ‘Allah’ because only those hearts and souls can do so whom Allah wants.
How will you show your face on the Day of Judgement,
when we fill the hearts and souls of these Christians whom you have banned from using the name "Allah," with the name of Allah?
Now the name of Allah is the property of Imam Mehdi and Imam Mehdi may grant it to whomsoever He wishes.
Who are you to ban anyone? When the owner of this property has given permission for all to use it.
You are a Muslim yet you can only say ‘Allah, Allah’ by word of mouth, if it truly was your inheritance then make your heart and soul say it too.
We are ready to grant [the name of God] to the hearts and souls [of the Christians].
Imam Mehdi Gohar Shahi does not even need permission from Allah. If Imam Mehdi Gohar Shahi has said it, it is enough.
Which means, if He has said He will grant your hearts and souls the name of God, then it will definitely happen.
Come and test it for yourself!
[Audience member summarises the speech]