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>>> EVER WANT TO DO THEATER?
>> YEAH.
THERE IS A PART OF ME.
THERE IS A PART OF ME THAT WANTS
TO DO IT, YOU KNOW.
>> TO HAVE THE AUDIENCE AND GET
THE REACTION.
>> YEAH, YEAH.
THERE IS A PART OF ME THAT WANTS
TO DO IT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW,
I -- I SUPPOSE THE REASON TO DO
IT IS BECAUSE IT JUST SCARES THE
ABSOLUTE, YOU KNOW --
>> IT DOES SCARE YOU?
>> OH, YEAH.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE THE PROTECTION
OF "CUT."
>> YEAH.
YOU DON'T HAVE THE PROTECTION OF
"CUT."
ALSO YOU JUST WALK OUT THERE AND
SUDDENLY JUST GO -- LINE.
YOU KNOW, I'M UP.
WHAT'S THE LINE, YOU KNOW?
THAT WOULD BE A REAL DRAG.
>> IS THERE A PLAY YOU'VE LIKED
THAT YOU'VE SAID TO YOURSELF, IF
I DO DO IT, I WOULD DO THAT
PLAY?
>> IT WAS ONE -- ONE
CONVERSATION WITH MARLON WHERE
HE SAID -- HE ASKED ME HOW MANY
MOVIES I DID A YEAR.
AT THE TIME I SAID, I DON'T
KNOW, MAYBE THREE OR SOMETHING.
HE SAYS, TOO MUCH KID.
THAT'S TOO MUCH.
WE ONLY HAVE SO MANY FACES IN
OUR POCKETS, YOU KNOW.
I SAID, OKAY, I GET IT.
HE SAID, WHY DON'T YOU PLAY
HAMLET.
YOU SHOULD PLAY HAMLET.
I SAID, I DON'T KNOW, HAMLET'S
THE KIND OF CLICHE THING.
HE SAID, NO, MAN.
DO IT BEFORE YOU'RE TOO OLD.
I NEVER GOT THE CHANCE.
I NEVER DID IT.
YOU SHOULD DO IT.
GO DO IT.
THAT STILL STICKS IN MY HEAD IS
THE POSSIBILITY OF BEFORE I'M
TOO LONG IN THE TOOTH TO PLAY
HAMLET.
>> HAVE YOU --
>> HAVE I?
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH.
>> WHAT GOT YOU DOWN?
>> CERTAINLY THROUGHOUT LIFE,
LOSING MARLON TOOK ME DOWN.
LOSING HUNTER TOOK ME DOWN.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW THAT THESE --
THESE FRIENDS, THESE MENTORS,
THESE TEACHERS, THESE FATHER
FIGURES, YOU KNOW, THESE --
SOMEONE WHO -- WHO YOU REALLY --
IT WAS AMAZING TO BE ACCEPTED BY
THEM AND TO -- AND TO BE LOVED
BY THEM.
AND SUDDENLY THEY'RE GONE, YOU
KNOW.
YEAH.
THOSE ARE PRETTY DOWN TIMES.
>> DO YOU HAVE FAITH?
>> I HAVE FAITH IN MY KIDS.
>> ME, TOO.
>> YEAH.
I HAVE FAITH IN MY KIDS.
AND I HAVE -- I HAVE FAITH, YOU
KNOW, THAT AS LONG AS YOU KEEP
MOVING FORWARD, JUST KEEP
WALKING FORWARD, THINGS WILL BE
ALL RIGHT, I SUPPOSE, YOU KNOW.
FAITH IN TERMS OF RELIGION, I
DON'T -- RELIGION IS NOT MY
SPECIALTY.
>> DO YOU ENJOY SUCCESS?
NOW, YOU KNOW YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL.
ARE YOU -- DO YOU ENJOY IT?
DO YOU ENJOY THE FRUITS OF IT?
>> SURE.
I MEAN, I'VE BEEN VERY -- LIKE I
SAID, VERY, VERY LUCKY, YOU
KNOW, IN A SENSE THAT, YOU KNOW,
I MEAN, HOW -- HOW IRONIC IS IT
THAT, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID --
>> YOU WERE PUMPING GAS.
>> I WAS PUMPING GAS, MOST
DEFINITELY.
PRINTING T-SHIRTS AND SELLING
INK PENS, ANYTHING AND
EVERYTHING.
YEAH.
AND THEN THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE
A 20-YEAR CAREER OF FAILURES AND
THEN YOU DO A PIRATE MOVIE AND
THAT BUYS YOU AN ISLAND IS
PRETTY -- THE IRONY OF THAT IS
PRETTY GOOD.
>> DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE TIMES
WHEN THINGS WEREN'T SO GOOD A
LOT?
>> YEAH, YEAH.
OH, YEAH.
YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A GUY WHO I
WORKED WITH MANY YEARS AGO.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SUCCESS
AND MONEY AND ALL THAT STUFF.
AND HE TOLD ME THIS ONE THING.
HE SAID, YOU KNOW, MONEY DOESN'T
CHANGE ANYBODY.
MONEY REVEALS THEM, YOU KNOW.
SAME THING WITH SUCCESS.
I BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW,
WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
I THINK I'VE BEEN REVEALED.
I DON'T THINK -- I HAVEN'T
CHANGED -- I'M STILL EXACTLY THE
GUY THAT USED TO PUMP GAS, YOU
KNOW.
I'M STILL THE GUY THAT WAS A
MECHANIC FOR A MINUTE, YOU KNOW.
I'M STILL EXACTLY.
I JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE A WEIRD --
WEIRDER JOB AT THE MOMENT, YOU
KNOW?
>> IT IS A WEIRD PROFESSION.
>> AS MARLON SAID, MARLON HAD
THE BEST DEFINITION OF ACTING
THAT EXISTS, YOU KNOW.
IT'S A STRANGE JOB FOR A GROWN
MAN.
AND THAT'S IT.
>> YOU DO THAT GOOD.
>> IT'S A STRANGE JOB FOR A
GROWN MAN.
RIGHT?
>> BUT HE CALLED SOMETHING ELSE
THAT PEOPLE IN THE BUSINESS GOT
MAD AT.
HE SAID IT ON OUR SHOW.
HE CALLED IT LYING FOR A LIVING.
>> RIGHT.
>> AND MOST ACTORS SAY THEY'RE
NOT LYING.
>> MMM.
>> DID YOU THINK THAT WAS AN
UNFAIR EXPRESSION?
>> I THINK IT'S TOTALLY -- I
THINK IT'S TOTALLY RIGHT, YEAH.
IT'S LYING.
IT IS LYING.
WHY WOULDN'T IT BE?
YOU CAN MAKE IT LYING.
YOU CAN MAKE IT NOT LYING.
YOU CAN FIND YOUR OWN TRUTH.
BUT IT'S STILL A LIE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO THE CRAFT
SERVICE TABLE.
YOU'RE NOT HENNRY 8, MAN.
HE'S NOT GOING TO EAT A GIANT
CHICKEN LEG AND CHUCK IT
SOMEWHERE AND START SCREAMING
"***".
>> DO YOU LIKE THE CAMERA?
BERT REYNOLDS USED TO SAY EVERY
DAY HE'D GO UP TO THE CAMERA AND
SAY LOVE ME TODAY.
PLEASE LOVE ME.
>> OH, REALLY?
>> YOU DON'T LOOK AT YOUR FILMS,
RIGHT?
>> I DON'T.
THE STRANGE THING, WHAT HAPPENS
AT A CERTAIN POINT.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE THAT THING
MARLON SAID ABOUT BEING OBSERVED
AND HAVING BEEN THE OBSERVER.
YOU GET TO A PLACE AT A CERTAIN
POINT WHERE YOU'RE MORE
COMFORTABLE IN FRONT OF A CAMERA
DOING, BEHAVING, LIVING IN FRONT
OF A CAMERA THAN YOU ARE IN
NORMAL LIFE.
THAT IS TO SAY, LIKE, OUT AT A
RESTAURANT OR SOMETHING LIKE
THAT.
YOU KNOW, THE CAMERA BECOMES
SORT OF JUST PART OF THE --
>> SAME THING IN MY PROFESSION.
I DON'T WANT TO DISCUSS MYSELF.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
IT'S JUST THERE AND THAT'S PART
OF IT AND THAT'S IT.
>> IT'S YOUR COMFORT ZONE.
>> YEAH, YEAH.
>>> UP NEXT, JOHNNY TALKS ABOUT
BEING A FAMILY MAN.
>> KIDS ARE GREAT.
SO FUN.
AS YOU KNOW, THEY JUST GROW UP
SO FAST.
IT'S JUST SHOCKING.
>>> EXPLAINS THOSE TATTOOS.
>> DO THE KIDS LIKE IT?
>> YEAH, THEY'RE OKAY WITH IT,
YOU KNOW.
YEAH.
THEY'RE SORT OF USED TO IT BY
NOW, YOU KNOW.
WHEN I COME HOME WITH A NEW ONE
THEY'RE LIKE OH, YEAH, THAT'S
GOOD.
NICE ONE, DAD.