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OF CRIMINAL MISCHIEF.
>>> WELL, RIGHT NOW PRESIDENT
OBAMA IS STRUGGLING TO OVERCOME
THE EMBARRASSING SETBACK TO HIS
SIGNATURE HEALTH CARE LAW, BUT
SETTING A NEW DEADLINE DURING
HIS WEEKLY SATURDAY ADDRESS TO
GET THE WEBSITE UP AND RUNNING
THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO.
HIS NEW TARGET IS THE END OF
NOVEMBER AND IN THE MEANTIME,
THE WHITE HOUSE IS SCRAMBLING TO
CONTROL THE DAMAGE AS THE
BOTCHED ROLLOUT IS TURNED INTO
A, WELL, SELF-INFLICTED WOUND.
A FOX NEWS POLITICAL ANALYST AND
RADIO SHOW HOST MARK LEVINE A
FORMER ATTORNEY AND GREAT TO
HAVE YOU BOTH WITH US THIS
MORNING OR THIS AFTERNOON NOW.
MARK, I WANT IS TO START WITH
YOU AND ASK YOU THE WHITE HOUSE
HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR IN SAYING
THAT THIS IS AN ALIGNMENT, NOT A
RETREAT.
DO YOU AGREE?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THERE WERE GLITCHES WHEN
PRESIDENT BUSH ROLLED OUT HIS
MEDICARE PART D.
THE WEBSITE WENT DOWN AND TOOK
WEEKS TO GET IT STARTED.
DIDN'T GET STARTED UNTIL
NOVEMBER 8th, WHICH IS A COUPLE
WEEKS AFTER THIS WEEK AND LOW
AND BEHOLD IT WORKED BY DECEMBER
31 AND TODAY MOST SENIORS LIKE
THEIR MEDICARE PRESCRIPTION PART
D.
IN FACT, OBAMA EXTENDED THE BUSH
PROGRAM IN OBAMA CARE.
THIS WILL ALL WORK OUT JUST
FINE.
IT'S A MINOR GLITCH.
>> MEDICARE PART D IS TOTALLY
DIFFERENT, MARK, THAN PEOPLE
BEING PENALIZED BY THE IRS AND
NOT ENROLLING IN OBAMA CARE AND
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS, JAMIE.
THE LAW IS NOT READY FOR
PRIMETIME AND THAT'S EVIDENT
WITH THE WEBSITE NOT BEING READY
FOR PRIMETIME.
THE WHOLE THING SHOULD BE
DELAYED.
>> SO YOU'RE SAYING IT'S THE
LAW, AS WELL AS THE GLITCHES IN
THE WEBSITE, ANGELA?
>> YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT, JAMIE.
WHEN YOU HAVE DEMOCRATS JOINING
REPUBLICANS SAYING THAT THIS LAW
SHOULD BE DELAYED, THE PRESIDENT
SHOULD LISTEN.
AND EVEN, MARK, ONE DEMOCRAT
SAID THAT THE PRESIDENT SHOULD
MAN UP AND FIX IT.
I BELIEVE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT
THE WEBSITE, BUT THE LAW NEEDS
TO BE FIXED AND THAT'S WHAT
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS SHOULD DO
WITH THE ADMINISTRATION.
>> LET ME TAKE A STEP BACK,
ANGELA.
YOU HAVE SAID THAT YOU BELIEVE
THAT THIS LAW IS ALL ABOUT
POLITICS.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT
THERE THAT DON'T HAVE INSURANCE
THAT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL, MAYBE
IT TOOK A LITTLE LONGER OR THEY
COULDN'T FIGURE IT OUT
IMMEDIATELY, BUT THERE ARE SOME
PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING COVERAGE
THAT WOULDN'T HAVE IT OTHERWISE.
HOW CAN YOU ARGUE AGAINST THAT?
>> HOW MANY PEOPLE IS THAT,
JAMIE?
WE DON'T KNOW.
THIS PRESIDENT --
>> WELL, HOW DO WE KNOW IT'S
MILLIONS BECAUSE THIS PRESIDENCY
IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE MOST
TRANSPARENT PRESIDENCY, BUT WE
DON'T KNOW THOSE NUMBERS.
WE'RE SAYING THAT PEOPLE ARE
ENROLLING, BUT ARE THEY?
>> DO YOU HAVE MORE SPECIFICS ON
THIS?
>> WE KNOW THAT 700,000 PEOPLE
SET UP AN APPLICATION AND THEY
HAVE UNTIL DECEMBER 15th TO DO
IT.
THERE HAVE BEEN GLITCHES IN THE
WEBSITE, IT WILL TAKE MORE TIME.
I TRIED TO GET IN MYSELF ON
OCTOBER 1 AND I GOT UP ON
OCTOBER 13th AND SET IT UP AND I
WENT IN JUST BEFORE THIS
BROADCAST I WENT IN QUICKLY AND
WENT IN IN A MINUTE AND I SAW A
BUNCH OF DIFFERENT PLANS AND I
CAN'T WAIT TO ENROLL FOR OBAMA
CARE, BUT I KNOW I HAVE TIME.
I HAVE UNTIL DECEMBER 15th.
>> MARK, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES
AND I'D LOVE TO KNOW FROM YOU,
ANGELA, PEOPLE BECAUSE THE
PENALTIES ARE NOT ALL THAT STIFF
WILL GET SO FRUSTRATED THAT
RATHER THAN SIGNING UP FOR OBAMA
CARE, THEY'LL PAY THE PENALTY
AND HOW WILL THAT HELP OUR
GOVERNMENT, MARK?
>> WELL, I DON'T THINK MANY
PEOPLE WILL DO THAT.
I THINK YOU'RE REALLY FOOLISH IF
YOU NEVER THINK YOU'RE GOING TO
GET SICK.
SOME PEOPLE THINK THEY'RE
INVINCIB YOU GET HIT BY
A CAR.
IF I GET SICK, I'LL GO TO THE
EMERGENCY ROOM AND MAKE OTHER
AMERICANS PAY FOR IT.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICANS
KNOW THEY NEED HEALTH CARE
INSURANCE.
>> IF YOU SHOW UP AT AN
EMERGENCY ROOM, CITIZEN OR NOT,
YOU'LL GET TREATED.
IS THAT PART OF THE SYSTEM
BROKEN?
>> I THINK THAT PART OF THE
SYSTEM IS BROKEN.
I'M SORRY, MAYBE THAT WAS GOING
TO ANGELA.
>> I THINK THE ENTIRE SYSTEM IS
BROKEN REGARDING OBAMA CARE.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, JAMIE.
IN 201248 MILLION AMERICANS WERE
NOT INSURED.
SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE YOUNG
FOLKS THAT CHOOSE NOT TO BE
INSURED.
SO, THOSE IRS PENALTIES ARE
SUPPOSED TO ACTUALLY PAY FOR THE
LAW.
I THINK THAT CERTAIN PEOPLE ARE
NOT GOING TO ENROLL AND THEY
WILL BE PENALIZED.
>> ANGELA, WOULD YOU EVER
RECOMMEND SOMEONE NOT GETTING
HEALTH INSURANCE OR NOT GETTING
FIRE INSURANCE OR CAR INSURANCE?
IT'S A FOOLISH THING TO DO.
>> DID I SAY I RECOMMENDED THAT,
JAMIE?
I ASKED THE QUESTIONS HOW THE
IRS PENALTIES WOULD PLAY.
I WAS ANSWERING HER QUESTIONS.
I BELIEVE ALL SHOULD BE INSURED.
IT SHOULD BE YOUR CHOICE, NOT A
MANDATE FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT.
THAT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL, EVEN
THOUGH THE SUPREME COURT SAID IT
ISN'T, IT IS.
>> YOU KNOW YOU WILL MAKE ME
TAKE OUT OF MY CONSTITUTION IF
YOU SAY SOMETHING IS
UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
LOOK, YOU SHOULD GET HEALTH CARE
INSURANCE JUST LIKE PEOPLE
SHOULD HAVE CAR INSURANCE AND
FIRE INSURANCE.
>> LET ME ASK YOU ONE QUESTION,
MARK, BEFORE I LET YOU GO.
DURING THE PERIOD OF TIME THAT
THIS DID GO UP TO THE SUPREME
COURT AND WE KNOW THAT DOESN'T
HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, HOW MUCH WORK
WAS BEING DONE TO GET THIS
WEBSITE READY OR WAS THE
ADMINISTRATION JUST SITTING BACK
AND SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE
NOT GOING TO DEAL WITH THAT
UNTIL WE KNOW FOR SURE IT'S
GOING.
>> YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, THEY
DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GET
THE WEBSITE READY.
>> DID YOU SAY I SAID THEY
DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME?
>> ONE REASON THEY DIDN'T HAVE
ENOUGH TIME BECAUSE STATES TOOK
A LONG TIME TO DECIDE IF THEY
WERE GOING TO OPT OUT.
>> THEY HAD EXTRA TIME.
THEY BELIEVED IT WAS
CONSTITUTIONAL OR THEY WOULDN'T
HAVE ARGUED IT BEFORE THE
SUPREME COURT.
WHAT WORK WAS GOING ON BEFORE
THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
THEY HAD EXTRA TIME.
>> THEY BELIEVED IT WAS
CONSTITUTIONAL.
YOU MAY RECALL IN THE SUPREME
COURT OPINION, THE SUPREME COURT
THREW THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
FOR A LOOP.
THEY SAID STATES DIDN'T HAVE TO
COVER THE MEDICAID PROVISION AND
A BUNCH OF STATES, INCLUDING MY
HOME STATE OF VIRGINIA WAITED
UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE, BUT
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
THEY SHOULD HAVE PLANNED OUT FOR
IT MORE AND JUST LIKE THE BUSH
ADMINISTRATION SHOULD HAVE TEN
YEARS AGO AND I'M CONFIDENT IT
WILL BE DONE IN A MONTH OR TWO.
>> JAMIE, YOU HAVE LIBERALS THAT
ARE SAYING THEY SABOTAGED THE
WEBSITE.
>> NOT THE WEBSITE, BUT THE
PLAN.
>> WE NEED TO STOP BLAMING
PEOPLE AND FIX IT.
NOT ONLY FIX THE WEBSITE, FIX
THE LAW.
>> THE ADMINISTRATION HAS
PLEDGED NOW TO MOVE THE DEADLINE