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>>> MY GUEST TODAY IS HEIDI HURD, DEAN OF THE UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS, COLLEGE OF LAW.
HURD, DEAN OF THE UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS, COLLEGE OF LAW. HEIDI, WELCOME.
ILLINOIS, COLLEGE OF LAW. HEIDI, WELCOME. >> THANK YOU.
HEIDI, WELCOME. >> THANK YOU. >> EFFECTIVE AUGUST 21 OF 2002,
>> THANK YOU. >> EFFECTIVE AUGUST 21 OF 2002, YOU WERE APPOINTED, ELECTED BY
>> EFFECTIVE AUGUST 21 OF 2002, YOU WERE APPOINTED, ELECTED BY BOARD OF TRUSTEES AS THE 11TH
YOU WERE APPOINTED, ELECTED BY BOARD OF TRUSTEES AS THE 11TH DEAN OF THE UNIVERSITY OF
BOARD OF TRUSTEES AS THE 11TH DEAN OF THE UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS COLLEGE OF LAW.
DEAN OF THE UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS COLLEGE OF LAW. FIRST WOMAN, IS THAT CORRECT?
ILLINOIS COLLEGE OF LAW. FIRST WOMAN, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S RIGHT.
FIRST WOMAN, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> DAVID BOND PROFESSOR OF LAW
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> DAVID BOND PROFESSOR OF LAW AND PHILOSOPHY.
>> DAVID BOND PROFESSOR OF LAW AND PHILOSOPHY. YOU SPENT MOST OF YOUR CAREER AT
AND PHILOSOPHY. YOU SPENT MOST OF YOUR CAREER AT THE UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA
YOU SPENT MOST OF YOUR CAREER AT THE UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA LAW SCHOOL.
THE UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA LAW SCHOOL. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
LAW SCHOOL. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> YOU ALSO VISITED UNIVERSITY
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> YOU ALSO VISITED UNIVERSITY OF IOWA AND DEPARTMENT OF
>> YOU ALSO VISITED UNIVERSITY OF IOWA AND DEPARTMENT OF PHILOSOPHY, COED TORE AND CHIEF
OF IOWA AND DEPARTMENT OF PHILOSOPHY, COED TORE AND CHIEF OF LAW AND PHILOSOPHY.
PHILOSOPHY, COED TORE AND CHIEF OF LAW AND PHILOSOPHY. PHILOSOPHER, AUTHOR OF THE GREAT
OF LAW AND PHILOSOPHY. PHILOSOPHER, AUTHOR OF THE GREAT BOOK SERIES, AND THE BOOK, HOW
PHILOSOPHER, AUTHOR OF THE GREAT BOOK SERIES, AND THE BOOK, HOW TO READ A BOOK, JUST DIED AT AGE
BOOK SERIES, AND THE BOOK, HOW TO READ A BOOK, JUST DIED AT AGE 98.
TO READ A BOOK, JUST DIED AT AGE 98. HE IS DISCIPLE AT SAINT THOMAS
98. HE IS DISCIPLE AT SAINT THOMAS A
HE IS DISCIPLE AT SAINT THOMAS A OH CQUAINAS, ONE OF THE
A OH CQUAINAS, ONE OF THE OBSERVATIONS MADE IN
OH CQUAINAS, ONE OF THE OBSERVATIONS MADE IN PUBLICATION, N I HAD A HE LIKE
OBSERVATIONS MADE IN PUBLICATION, N I HAD A HE LIKE TO QUOTE, A PERSON HAS A
PUBLICATION, N I HAD A HE LIKE TO QUOTE, A PERSON HAS A PHILOSOPHICAL DUTY TO THINK
TO QUOTE, A PERSON HAS A PHILOSOPHICAL DUTY TO THINK CLEARLY AND EXERCISE FREE WILL
PHILOSOPHICAL DUTY TO THINK CLEARLY AND EXERCISE FREE WILL WISELY.
CLEARLY AND EXERCISE FREE WILL WISELY. IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT,
WISELY. IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT, THAT'S THE CHARGE THAT YOU, AS
IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT, THAT'S THE CHARGE THAT YOU, AS THE DEAN HAS?
THAT'S THE CHARGE THAT YOU, AS THE DEAN HAS? >> WELL, A LAWYER CERTAINLY HAS
THE DEAN HAS? >> WELL, A LAWYER CERTAINLY HAS THAT SET OF OBLIGATIONS, AND I
>> WELL, A LAWYER CERTAINLY HAS THAT SET OF OBLIGATIONS, AND I TEND TO SHARE WITH HIM THE VIEW
THAT SET OF OBLIGATIONS, AND I TEND TO SHARE WITH HIM THE VIEW THAT ALL PEOPLE DO.
TEND TO SHARE WITH HIM THE VIEW THAT ALL PEOPLE DO. BUT AS AN AGITATOR, EDUCATOR OF
THAT ALL PEOPLE DO. BUT AS AN AGITATOR, EDUCATOR OF PEOPLE WHO GO ON TO NOT ONLY
BUT AS AN AGITATOR, EDUCATOR OF PEOPLE WHO GO ON TO NOT ONLY HAVE TO MANAGE THEIR OWN COMPLEX
PEOPLE WHO GO ON TO NOT ONLY HAVE TO MANAGE THEIR OWN COMPLEX LAWS, BUT WHO HAVE TO REPRESENT
HAVE TO MANAGE THEIR OWN COMPLEX LAWS, BUT WHO HAVE TO REPRESENT AND MANAGE THE LAWS OF LIVES OF
LAWS, BUT WHO HAVE TO REPRESENT AND MANAGE THE LAWS OF LIVES OF OTHERS, SURELY THE MINIMAL
AND MANAGE THE LAWS OF LIVES OF OTHERS, SURELY THE MINIMAL OBLIGATIONS THEY HAVE IS
OTHERS, SURELY THE MINIMAL OBLIGATIONS THEY HAVE IS INVOLVES THINKING EXTREMELY
OBLIGATIONS THEY HAVE IS INVOLVES THINKING EXTREMELY CLEARLY, MAKING EXTREMELY
INVOLVES THINKING EXTREMELY CLEARLY, MAKING EXTREMELY PERSUASIVE ARGUMENTS ON THOSE
CLEARLY, MAKING EXTREMELY PERSUASIVE ARGUMENTS ON THOSE THEY REPRESENT.
PERSUASIVE ARGUMENTS ON THOSE THEY REPRESENT. TO GET IT RIGHT.
THEY REPRESENT. TO GET IT RIGHT. >> ALSO TRUTH ARE ABSOLUTE AND
TO GET IT RIGHT. >> ALSO TRUTH ARE ABSOLUTE AND UNCHANGING, IS THAT A FAIR
>> ALSO TRUTH ARE ABSOLUTE AND UNCHANGING, IS THAT A FAIR ANALYSIS?
UNCHANGING, IS THAT A FAIR ANALYSIS? >> I THINK THAT THERE ARE CORE
ANALYSIS? >> I THINK THAT THERE ARE CORE TRUTHS THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT
>> I THINK THAT THERE ARE CORE TRUTHS THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE GOTTEN TO AT THIS POINT.
TRUTHS THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE GOTTEN TO AT THIS POINT. IT IS NOT THAT THEY ARE NOT
HAVE GOTTEN TO AT THIS POINT. IT IS NOT THAT THEY ARE NOT CONTEXT SENSITIVE, THAT IS ONE
IT IS NOT THAT THEY ARE NOT CONTEXT SENSITIVE, THAT IS ONE OF THE CLASSIC EXAMPLES IN
CONTEXT SENSITIVE, THAT IS ONE OF THE CLASSIC EXAMPLES IN PHILOSOPHY FOR EXAMPLE, YOU
OF THE CLASSIC EXAMPLES IN PHILOSOPHY FOR EXAMPLE, YOU MIGHT THINK IT IS A CORE TRUTH
PHILOSOPHY FOR EXAMPLE, YOU MIGHT THINK IT IS A CORE TRUTH THAT WE HAVE OBLIGATIONS OF
MIGHT THINK IT IS A CORE TRUTH THAT WE HAVE OBLIGATIONS OF KINDNESS TO ALL, OBLIGATIONS OF
THAT WE HAVE OBLIGATIONS OF KINDNESS TO ALL, OBLIGATIONS OF KINDNESS TO THE ELDERLY, BUT
KINDNESS TO ALL, OBLIGATIONS OF KINDNESS TO THE ELDERLY, BUT WHAT CONSTITUTES SATISFACTION OF
KINDNESS TO THE ELDERLY, BUT WHAT CONSTITUTES SATISFACTION OF THE OBLIGATION OF KIND LESS TO
WHAT CONSTITUTES SATISFACTION OF THE OBLIGATION OF KIND LESS TO THE ELDERLY MAYBE CONSISTENT
THE OBLIGATION OF KIND LESS TO THE ELDERLY MAYBE CONSISTENT WITH PUTTING SOMEBODY ON'S
THE ELDERLY MAYBE CONSISTENT WITH PUTTING SOMEBODY ON'S ICEBERG IN THE ARCTIC AT LEAST
WITH PUTTING SOMEBODY ON'S ICEBERG IN THE ARCTIC AT LEAST DECADES AGO WHEN THEY WERE NO
ICEBERG IN THE ARCTIC AT LEAST DECADES AGO WHEN THEY WERE NO RETIREMENT HOMES, BUT IN OUR
DECADES AGO WHEN THEY WERE NO RETIREMENT HOMES, BUT IN OUR SOCIETY, OF COURSE, WOULD NOT BE
RETIREMENT HOMES, BUT IN OUR SOCIETY, OF COURSE, WOULD NOT BE CONSISTENT WITH ABANDONING
SOCIETY, OF COURSE, WOULD NOT BE CONSISTENT WITH ABANDONING SOMEBODY ON AN EYE BERG.
CONSISTENT WITH ABANDONING SOMEBODY ON AN EYE BERG. THEY CAN BE CONTACT SENSITIVE.
SOMEBODY ON AN EYE BERG. THEY CAN BE CONTACT SENSITIVE. BUT I AM THE GREAT BELIEVER THAT
THEY CAN BE CONTACT SENSITIVE. BUT I AM THE GREAT BELIEVER THAT THERE IS MORAL PROGRESS AND IT
BUT I AM THE GREAT BELIEVER THAT THERE IS MORAL PROGRESS AND IT CONSISTS OF THE DECIPHERING
THERE IS MORAL PROGRESS AND IT CONSISTS OF THE DECIPHERING MORAL TRUTHS THAT HAVE NOT
CONSISTS OF THE DECIPHERING MORAL TRUTHS THAT HAVE NOT THEMSELVES RELATIVE AND NOT BEEN
MORAL TRUTHS THAT HAVE NOT THEMSELVES RELATIVE AND NOT BEEN SALVAGED, THEREFORE, CAPABLE OF
THEMSELVES RELATIVE AND NOT BEEN SALVAGED, THEREFORE, CAPABLE OF BEING MANIPULATED BY US VIA.
SALVAGED, THEREFORE, CAPABLE OF BEING MANIPULATED BY US VIA. >> YOU AGREE THERE ARE THINGS
BEING MANIPULATED BY US VIA. >> YOU AGREE THERE ARE THINGS PSYCHO, NO CHANGE, WHETHER
>> YOU AGREE THERE ARE THINGS PSYCHO, NO CHANGE, WHETHER TALKING SAINT THOMAS ACQUAINAS
PSYCHO, NO CHANGE, WHETHER TALKING SAINT THOMAS ACQUAINAS TODAY OR THOUSANDS YEARS AGO.
TALKING SAINT THOMAS ACQUAINAS TODAY OR THOUSANDS YEARS AGO. >> RIGHT.
TODAY OR THOUSANDS YEARS AGO. >> RIGHT. >> YOUR LIFE.
>> RIGHT. >> YOUR LIFE. HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE THE
>> YOUR LIFE. HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE THE PERSONALITY OF HEIDI HURD?
HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE THE PERSONALITY OF HEIDI HURD? >> OH, WOW, I KNEW YOU WERE
PERSONALITY OF HEIDI HURD? >> OH, WOW, I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO DO (LAUGHING) I KNEW
>> OH, WOW, I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO DO (LAUGHING) I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO GUIDE ME AND
GOING TO DO (LAUGHING) I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO GUIDE ME AND THERE WAS GOING TO BE A HARD
YOU WERE GOING TO GUIDE ME AND THERE WAS GOING TO BE A HARD QUESTION SOMEWHERE!
THERE WAS GOING TO BE A HARD QUESTION SOMEWHERE! THE PERSONALITY.
QUESTION SOMEWHERE! THE PERSONALITY. SOMEBODY SAID HIGH MAINTENANCE,
THE PERSONALITY. SOMEBODY SAID HIGH MAINTENANCE, I MEANT, HARD DRIVING, HARD
SOMEBODY SAID HIGH MAINTENANCE, I MEANT, HARD DRIVING, HARD DRIVING!
I MEANT, HARD DRIVING, HARD DRIVING! I AM NOT HIGH MAINTENANCE, BUT I
DRIVING! I AM NOT HIGH MAINTENANCE, BUT I AM PROBABLY HARD DRIVING.
I AM NOT HIGH MAINTENANCE, BUT I AM PROBABLY HARD DRIVING. I JUST THINK LIFE IS TO BE
AM PROBABLY HARD DRIVING. I JUST THINK LIFE IS TO BE MILKED FOR EVERY ADVENTURE AND
I JUST THINK LIFE IS TO BE MILKED FOR EVERY ADVENTURE AND EVERY EXPERIENCE AND EVERY
MILKED FOR EVERY ADVENTURE AND EVERY EXPERIENCE AND EVERY LESSON THAT YOU CAN GET DAWN TO
EVERY EXPERIENCE AND EVERY LESSON THAT YOU CAN GET DAWN TO DUSK.
LESSON THAT YOU CAN GET DAWN TO DUSK. YOU KNOW, MY DEFINITION OF A
DUSK. YOU KNOW, MY DEFINITION OF A GREAT DAY IS A DAY THAT JUST HAS
YOU KNOW, MY DEFINITION OF A GREAT DAY IS A DAY THAT JUST HAS PACKED SO MANY THINGS INTO THE
GREAT DAY IS A DAY THAT JUST HAS PACKED SO MANY THINGS INTO THE HOURS, BUT EXHAUSTION IS
PACKED SO MANY THINGS INTO THE HOURS, BUT EXHAUSTION IS INEVITABLE.
HOURS, BUT EXHAUSTION IS INEVITABLE. >> YES, BUT WE ARE TALKING
INEVITABLE. >> YES, BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT -- THINKING IN THE
>> YES, BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT -- THINKING IN THE DARKROOM.
ABOUT -- THINKING IN THE DARKROOM. THAT SEEMS TO BE YOUR
DARKROOM. THAT SEEMS TO BE YOUR SITUATIONNAL INTERTRO VERT.
THAT SEEMS TO BE YOUR SITUATIONNAL INTERTRO VERT. WOULD THAT BE FAIR?
SITUATIONNAL INTERTRO VERT. WOULD THAT BE FAIR? YOU ARE THINKING CLEARLY ABOUT
WOULD THAT BE FAIR? YOU ARE THINKING CLEARLY ABOUT PHILOSOPHY, NOT NECESSARILY
YOU ARE THINKING CLEARLY ABOUT PHILOSOPHY, NOT NECESSARILY INTERACTIVE, AND PART OF YOU,
PHILOSOPHY, NOT NECESSARILY INTERACTIVE, AND PART OF YOU, MANAGING THIS WHOLE BUNCH OF
INTERACTIVE, AND PART OF YOU, MANAGING THIS WHOLE BUNCH OF CATS, HERD OF CATS, IS THAT
MANAGING THIS WHOLE BUNCH OF CATS, HERD OF CATS, IS THAT FAIR?
CATS, HERD OF CATS, IS THAT FAIR? FAC TULE TY AND STUDENTS, BOARD
FAIR? FAC TULE TY AND STUDENTS, BOARD OF TRUSTEES, LEGISLATURE
FAC TULE TY AND STUDENTS, BOARD OF TRUSTEES, LEGISLATURE LEGISLATOR.
OF TRUSTEES, LEGISLATURE LEGISLATOR. PART OF YOU THAT'S GOT TO GO BY
LEGISLATOR. PART OF YOU THAT'S GOT TO GO BY THE OF EXTROVERT.
PART OF YOU THAT'S GOT TO GO BY THE OF EXTROVERT. >> THAT'S TRUE.
THE OF EXTROVERT. >> THAT'S TRUE. THAT'S TRUE.
>> THAT'S TRUE. THAT'S TRUE. >> YOU CAN BE BOTH, AT THE SAME
THAT'S TRUE. >> YOU CAN BE BOTH, AT THE SAME TIME AND PERHAPS NOTHING WRONG
>> YOU CAN BE BOTH, AT THE SAME TIME AND PERHAPS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT, YOU PERHAPS ARE BOTH.
TIME AND PERHAPS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT, YOU PERHAPS ARE BOTH. >> THAT'S TRUE.
WITH THAT, YOU PERHAPS ARE BOTH. >> THAT'S TRUE. WELL, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL,
>> THAT'S TRUE. WELL, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, THERE ARE GREAT ADVENTURES TO BE
WELL, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, THERE ARE GREAT ADVENTURES TO BE HAD AT YOUR COMPUTER SCREEN WHEN
THERE ARE GREAT ADVENTURES TO BE HAD AT YOUR COMPUTER SCREEN WHEN IT COMES TO FIGURING OUT
HAD AT YOUR COMPUTER SCREEN WHEN IT COMES TO FIGURING OUT ARGUMENTS AND WORKING THROUGH
IT COMES TO FIGURING OUT ARGUMENTS AND WORKING THROUGH PROBLEMS PEOPLE HAVEN'T WORKED
ARGUMENTS AND WORKING THROUGH PROBLEMS PEOPLE HAVEN'T WORKED THROUGH BEFORE OF I FIND IT
PROBLEMS PEOPLE HAVEN'T WORKED THROUGH BEFORE OF I FIND IT SIMILAR TO THE KIND OF MOUNTAIN
THROUGH BEFORE OF I FIND IT SIMILAR TO THE KIND OF MOUNTAIN CLIMBING I IN FACT DO.
SIMILAR TO THE KIND OF MOUNTAIN CLIMBING I IN FACT DO. I LIKE TO CLIMB MOUNTAINS, AND I
CLIMBING I IN FACT DO. I LIKE TO CLIMB MOUNTAINS, AND I LIKE TO CLIMB PHILOSOPHICAL.
I LIKE TO CLIMB MOUNTAINS, AND I LIKE TO CLIMB PHILOSOPHICAL. I FIND THE TWO PSYCHOLOGICALLY
LIKE TO CLIMB PHILOSOPHICAL. I FIND THE TWO PSYCHOLOGICALLY SIMILAR.
I FIND THE TWO PSYCHOLOGICALLY SIMILAR. I FIND ADVENTURE AT MY COMPUTER
SIMILAR. I FIND ADVENTURE AT MY COMPUTER SCREEN. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY
I FIND ADVENTURE AT MY COMPUTER SCREEN. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT WHEN RUNNING A VAST
SCREEN. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT WHEN RUNNING A VAST INSTITUTION, WITH MULTIPLE
RIGHT WHEN RUNNING A VAST INSTITUTION, WITH MULTIPLE PERSONALITIES AND MULTIPLE
INSTITUTION, WITH MULTIPLE PERSONALITIES AND MULTIPLE MISSIONS, THAT'S ADVENTUROUS IN
PERSONALITIES AND MULTIPLE MISSIONS, THAT'S ADVENTUROUS IN A WHOLE DIFFERENT WAY.
MISSIONS, THAT'S ADVENTUROUS IN A WHOLE DIFFERENT WAY. I'D LIKE TO THINK THERE IS A LOT
A WHOLE DIFFERENT WAY. I'D LIKE TO THINK THERE IS A LOT OF PHILOSOPHICAL SO PHYSICAL TY
I'D LIKE TO THINK THERE IS A LOT OF PHILOSOPHICAL SO PHYSICAL TY INDICATION TO THAT TASK AS WELL.
OF PHILOSOPHICAL SO PHYSICAL TY INDICATION TO THAT TASK AS WELL. >> LEADERSHIP, STABILITY TO
INDICATION TO THAT TASK AS WELL. >> LEADERSHIP, STABILITY TO MANAGE MULTIPLE ACTIVITIES, I
>> LEADERSHIP, STABILITY TO MANAGE MULTIPLE ACTIVITIES, I WILL CALL THEM ACTIVITIES,
MANAGE MULTIPLE ACTIVITIES, I WILL CALL THEM ACTIVITIES, MULTIPLE GROUPS OF HUMAN BEINGS,
WILL CALL THEM ACTIVITIES, MULTIPLE GROUPS OF HUMAN BEINGS, THE FACULTY, THE STUDENTS,
MULTIPLE GROUPS OF HUMAN BEINGS, THE FACULTY, THE STUDENTS, EVERYTHING ELSE WRAPPED UP IN
THE FACULTY, THE STUDENTS, EVERYTHING ELSE WRAPPED UP IN YOUR DAY TO DAY LIFE.
EVERYTHING ELSE WRAPPED UP IN YOUR DAY TO DAY LIFE. DO YOU THINK YOU ALWAYS HAD
YOUR DAY TO DAY LIFE. DO YOU THINK YOU ALWAYS HAD THAT, OR DID YOU HAVE TO LEARN
DO YOU THINK YOU ALWAYS HAD THAT, OR DID YOU HAVE TO LEARN THAT?
THAT, OR DID YOU HAVE TO LEARN THAT? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WAS
THAT? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WAS INBRED?
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WAS INBRED? SOUNDS LIKE BUFFALO FARM, AND
INBRED? SOUNDS LIKE BUFFALO FARM, AND (LAUGHING) AND MANAGING PEOPLE
SOUNDS LIKE BUFFALO FARM, AND (LAUGHING) AND MANAGING PEOPLE UNLESS YOU CALL BUFFALO PEOPLE!
(LAUGHING) AND MANAGING PEOPLE UNLESS YOU CALL BUFFALO PEOPLE! MAYBE THAT'S THE
UNLESS YOU CALL BUFFALO PEOPLE! MAYBE THAT'S THE CHARACTERIZATION OF SOME PEOPLE.
MAYBE THAT'S THE CHARACTERIZATION OF SOME PEOPLE. WE WON'T GO THERE.
CHARACTERIZATION OF SOME PEOPLE. WE WON'T GO THERE. BUT THE LEADERSHIP, HOW DO YOU
WE WON'T GO THERE. BUT THE LEADERSHIP, HOW DO YOU MANAGE ALL THESE HUMAN BEINGS?
BUT THE LEADERSHIP, HOW DO YOU MANAGE ALL THESE HUMAN BEINGS? >> YOU HAVE TO HAVE A THEORY,
MANAGE ALL THESE HUMAN BEINGS? >> YOU HAVE TO HAVE A THEORY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PHILOSOPHY
>> YOU HAVE TO HAVE A THEORY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PHILOSOPHY ABOUT IT.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PHILOSOPHY ABOUT IT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A THEORY OF
ABOUT IT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A THEORY OF LEADERSHIP WHICH WON'T APPEAL TO
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A THEORY OF LEADERSHIP WHICH WON'T APPEAL TO SOME, AND WILL BE UNATTRACTIVE
LEADERSHIP WHICH WON'T APPEAL TO SOME, AND WILL BE UNATTRACTIVE TO ALL AT SOME POINT.
SOME, AND WILL BE UNATTRACTIVE TO ALL AT SOME POINT. IT IS THE CASE YOU HAVE TO HAVE
TO ALL AT SOME POINT. IT IS THE CASE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A THEORY OF THE EXCELLENCE OF AN
IT IS THE CASE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A THEORY OF THE EXCELLENCE OF AN INSTITUTION, AND THE COMPONENTS
A THEORY OF THE EXCELLENCE OF AN INSTITUTION, AND THE COMPONENTS THAT COMPRISE EXCELLENCE AND
INSTITUTION, AND THE COMPONENTS THAT COMPRISE EXCELLENCE AND THEN BY GOLLY YOU GOT TO STICK
THAT COMPRISE EXCELLENCE AND THEN BY GOLLY YOU GOT TO STICK TO YOUR VISION.
THEN BY GOLLY YOU GOT TO STICK TO YOUR VISION. AT TIMES WHEN GETS TEMPTING TO
TO YOUR VISION. AT TIMES WHEN GETS TEMPTING TO DEPART FROM IT BECAUSE YOU ARE
AT TIMES WHEN GETS TEMPTING TO DEPART FROM IT BECAUSE YOU ARE SWAYED BY COMPETING VALUES.
DEPART FROM IT BECAUSE YOU ARE SWAYED BY COMPETING VALUES. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER -- I DON'T
SWAYED BY COMPETING VALUES. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER -- I DON'T KNOW WEATHER -- I DON'T KNOW
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER -- I DON'T KNOW WEATHER -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF LEADER I AM.
KNOW WEATHER -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF LEADER I AM. I AM NOT GOING TO PRESUPPOSE I
WHAT KIND OF LEADER I AM. I AM NOT GOING TO PRESUPPOSE I HAVE ANY GIFT OF LEADERSHIP.
I AM NOT GOING TO PRESUPPOSE I HAVE ANY GIFT OF LEADERSHIP. BUT WHATEVER CAPACITIES I MAY
HAVE ANY GIFT OF LEADERSHIP. BUT WHATEVER CAPACITIES I MAY HAVE AND CERTAINLY MY INTEREST
BUT WHATEVER CAPACITIES I MAY HAVE AND CERTAINLY MY INTEREST FOR IT, I THINK IT IS PROBABLY
HAVE AND CERTAINLY MY INTEREST FOR IT, I THINK IT IS PROBABLY TRUE.
FOR IT, I THINK IT IS PROBABLY TRUE. WAS BORN WITH IT.
TRUE. WAS BORN WITH IT. >> GREEN EYES, BLUE EYES, YOU
WAS BORN WITH IT. >> GREEN EYES, BLUE EYES, YOU HAD IT.
>> GREEN EYES, BLUE EYES, YOU HAD IT. >> YES.
HAD IT. >> YES. >> YOU CAN TAKE SOMEONE WITH
>> YES. >> YOU CAN TAKE SOMEONE WITH YOUR SKILL SETS, AND THEY WOULD
>> YOU CAN TAKE SOMEONE WITH YOUR SKILL SETS, AND THEY WOULD FLOUNDER?
YOUR SKILL SETS, AND THEY WOULD FLOUNDER? >> YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TASTE FOR
FLOUNDER? >> YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TASTE FOR IT.
>> YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TASTE FOR IT. YOU HAVE TO THINK THAT FIGURING
IT. YOU HAVE TO THINK THAT FIGURING OUT HOW TO BUILD AN INSTITUTION
YOU HAVE TO THINK THAT FIGURING OUT HOW TO BUILD AN INSTITUTION TO WHICH EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET
OUT HOW TO BUILD AN INSTITUTION TO WHICH EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET UP IN THE MORNING AND GO.
TO WHICH EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET UP IN THE MORNING AND GO. INTRINSIC CALLY THING TO DO.
UP IN THE MORNING AND GO. INTRINSIC CALLY THING TO DO. WHAT I WANT TO DO IS BUILD A
INTRINSIC CALLY THING TO DO. WHAT I WANT TO DO IS BUILD A PLACE WHERE EVERYBODY GETS UP IN
WHAT I WANT TO DO IS BUILD A PLACE WHERE EVERYBODY GETS UP IN THE MORNING AND WANTS TO GO TO
PLACE WHERE EVERYBODY GETS UP IN THE MORNING AND WANTS TO GO TO WORK AND FINDS REWARD AND FINDS
THE MORNING AND WANTS TO GO TO WORK AND FINDS REWARD AND FINDS CHALLENGES THERE.
WORK AND FINDS REWARD AND FINDS CHALLENGES THERE. THAT MEANS YOU FIND PEOPLE'S
CHALLENGES THERE. THAT MEANS YOU FIND PEOPLE'S STRENGTHS AND STEER THEM TOWARDS
THAT MEANS YOU FIND PEOPLE'S STRENGTHS AND STEER THEM TOWARDS THE ACTIVITIES THAT CAPITALIZE
STRENGTHS AND STEER THEM TOWARDS THE ACTIVITIES THAT CAPITALIZE ON THE STRENGTHS, AND YOU FIND
THE ACTIVITIES THAT CAPITALIZE ON THE STRENGTHS, AND YOU FIND THEIR WEAKNESSES AND YOU STEER
ON THE STRENGTHS, AND YOU FIND THEIR WEAKNESSES AND YOU STEER THEM AWAY FROM THINGS THAT WOULD
THEIR WEAKNESSES AND YOU STEER THEM AWAY FROM THINGS THAT WOULD BRING THOSE OUT.
THEM AWAY FROM THINGS THAT WOULD BRING THOSE OUT. I AM BY NO MEANS 100% SUCCESSFUL
BRING THOSE OUT. I AM BY NO MEANS 100% SUCCESSFUL AT ACCOMPLISHING THIS FOR
I AM BY NO MEANS 100% SUCCESSFUL AT ACCOMPLISHING THIS FOR FACULTY STAFF AND STUDENTS, BUT
AT ACCOMPLISHING THIS FOR FACULTY STAFF AND STUDENTS, BUT THAT'S THE GOAL.
FACULTY STAFF AND STUDENTS, BUT THAT'S THE GOAL. >> KIND OF LIKE RUNNING A
THAT'S THE GOAL. >> KIND OF LIKE RUNNING A BUSINESS TO ME.
>> KIND OF LIKE RUNNING A BUSINESS TO ME. QUOTE THE PRESIDENT, IF YOU
BUSINESS TO ME. QUOTE THE PRESIDENT, IF YOU WILL, HAVE TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE
QUOTE THE PRESIDENT, IF YOU WILL, HAVE TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE.
WILL, HAVE TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE. >> AND IT THERE ARE MARKETS THAT
IS ON THE SAME PAGE. >> AND IT THERE ARE MARKETS THAT TEST YOUR SUCCESS.
>> AND IT THERE ARE MARKETS THAT TEST YOUR SUCCESS. IF YOU ARE SUCCESSFUL AT
TEST YOUR SUCCESS. IF YOU ARE SUCCESSFUL AT RECRUITING FACULTY.
IF YOU ARE SUCCESSFUL AT RECRUITING FACULTY. THAT'S A GOOD SIGN YOU BUILT
RECRUITING FACULTY. THAT'S A GOOD SIGN YOU BUILT INTELLECTUAL COMMUNITY THAT HAS
THAT'S A GOOD SIGN YOU BUILT INTELLECTUAL COMMUNITY THAT HAS GRAVITATIONAL PULL.
INTELLECTUAL COMMUNITY THAT HAS GRAVITATIONAL PULL. IF YOU ARE SUCCESSFUL AT
GRAVITATIONAL PULL. IF YOU ARE SUCCESSFUL AT RECRUITING TERRIFIC FUTURE
IF YOU ARE SUCCESSFUL AT RECRUITING TERRIFIC FUTURE LEADERS TO YOUR STUDENT BODY,
RECRUITING TERRIFIC FUTURE LEADERS TO YOUR STUDENT BODY, THAT'S AN INDICATION, MARKET
LEADERS TO YOUR STUDENT BODY, THAT'S AN INDICATION, MARKET BASED INDICATION THAT YOU HAVE
THAT'S AN INDICATION, MARKET BASED INDICATION THAT YOU HAVE BUILT KIND OF COMMUNITY THAT'S
BASED INDICATION THAT YOU HAVE BUILT KIND OF COMMUNITY THAT'S BOTH INTELLECTUALLY CHALLENGING
BUILT KIND OF COMMUNITY THAT'S BOTH INTELLECTUALLY CHALLENGING AND WARM AND FRIENDLY WHICH IS
BOTH INTELLECTUALLY CHALLENGING AND WARM AND FRIENDLY WHICH IS BOTH IMPORTANT.
AND WARM AND FRIENDLY WHICH IS BOTH IMPORTANT. >> YOUR WILDEST DREAM?
BOTH IMPORTANT. >> YOUR WILDEST DREAM? >> MY WIELDEST DREAM.
>> YOUR WILDEST DREAM? >> MY WIELDEST DREAM. WELL, I AM ABOUT TO GO SKYDIVING
>> MY WIELDEST DREAM. WELL, I AM ABOUT TO GO SKYDIVING IN A MONTH.
WELL, I AM ABOUT TO GO SKYDIVING IN A MONTH. THAT USED TO BE MY WILDEST
IN A MONTH. THAT USED TO BE MY WILDEST DREAM.
THAT USED TO BE MY WILDEST DREAM. BUT THAT WILL HAPPEN.
DREAM. BUT THAT WILL HAPPEN. MY WILDEST DREAM.
BUT THAT WILL HAPPEN. MY WILDEST DREAM. I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE A
MY WILDEST DREAM. I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE A WIELDEST DREAM THAT'S
I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE A WIELDEST DREAM THAT'S INTERESTING.
WIELDEST DREAM THAT'S INTERESTING. >> YOUR PERFECT DAY?
INTERESTING. >> YOUR PERFECT DAY? >> OH, WHITEWATER RAFTING IN THE
>> YOUR PERFECT DAY? >> OH, WHITEWATER RAFTING IN THE COLORADO RIVER.
>> OH, WHITEWATER RAFTING IN THE COLORADO RIVER. I AM NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY THAT. I
COLORADO RIVER. I AM NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY THAT. I AM SUPPOSED TO SAY THE DAY WHEN
I AM NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY THAT. I AM SUPPOSED TO SAY THE DAY WHEN I BRING IN FABULOUS FACULTY
AM SUPPOSED TO SAY THE DAY WHEN I BRING IN FABULOUS FACULTY MEMBER, AND YOU KNOW, HERE IS
I BRING IN FABULOUS FACULTY MEMBER, AND YOU KNOW, HERE IS THE PUBLICATION OF TEN WONDERFUL
MEMBER, AND YOU KNOW, HERE IS THE PUBLICATION OF TEN WONDERFUL ARTICLES FROM OTHER FACULTY, AND
THE PUBLICATION OF TEN WONDERFUL ARTICLES FROM OTHER FACULTY, AND RECRUIT STUDENTS, NO, IT IS WITE
ARTICLES FROM OTHER FACULTY, AND RECRUIT STUDENTS, NO, IT IS WITE WATER RAFTING ON THE COLORADO
RECRUIT STUDENTS, NO, IT IS WITE WATER RAFTING ON THE COLORADO RIVER.
WATER RAFTING ON THE COLORADO RIVER. >> YOUR ACTIVITY IN SPARE TIME.
RIVER. >> YOUR ACTIVITY IN SPARE TIME. >> WHITEWATER RAFTING ON THE
>> YOUR ACTIVITY IN SPARE TIME. >> WHITEWATER RAFTING ON THE COLORADO RIVER!
>> WHITEWATER RAFTING ON THE COLORADO RIVER! (LAUGHING).
COLORADO RIVER! (LAUGHING). >> WE ARE HAVING, OKAY.
(LAUGHING). >> WE ARE HAVING, OKAY. IT IS YOUR TIME.
>> WE ARE HAVING, OKAY. IT IS YOUR TIME. WHITEWATER RAFTING.
IT IS YOUR TIME. WHITEWATER RAFTING. YOUR FAVORITE MOVIE?
WHITEWATER RAFTING. YOUR FAVORITE MOVIE? >> MY FAVORITE MOVIE, YOU KNOW,
YOUR FAVORITE MOVIE? >> MY FAVORITE MOVIE, YOU KNOW, I AM SUCH -- I AM NOT A VOGUE
>> MY FAVORITE MOVIE, YOU KNOW, I AM SUCH -- I AM NOT A VOGUE PERSON.
I AM SUCH -- I AM NOT A VOGUE PERSON. MY ANSWER TO FAVORITE MOVIE AND
PERSON. MY ANSWER TO FAVORITE MOVIE AND FAVORITE NOVEL, AND MUSIC,
MY ANSWER TO FAVORITE MOVIE AND FAVORITE NOVEL, AND MUSIC, ALWAYS EMBARRASSING.
FAVORITE NOVEL, AND MUSIC, ALWAYS EMBARRASSING. MY FAVORITE MOVIE WAS DANCES
ALWAYS EMBARRASSING. MY FAVORITE MOVIE WAS DANCES WITH WOLVES.
MY FAVORITE MOVIE WAS DANCES WITH WOLVES. MY FAVORITE MUSIC IS JOHN
WITH WOLVES. MY FAVORITE MUSIC IS JOHN DENVER. THOSE ARE SO UNCOOL!
MY FAVORITE MUSIC IS JOHN DENVER. THOSE ARE SO UNCOOL! I AM SORRY.
DENVER. THOSE ARE SO UNCOOL! I AM SORRY. I APOLOGIZE FOR THOSE ANSWERS.
I AM SORRY. I APOLOGIZE FOR THOSE ANSWERS. >> THAT'S OKAY.
I APOLOGIZE FOR THOSE ANSWERS. >> THAT'S OKAY. >> I HAVE LISTENED TO JOHN
>> THAT'S OKAY. >> I HAVE LISTENED TO JOHN DENVER MY ENTIRE LIFE.
>> I HAVE LISTENED TO JOHN DENVER MY ENTIRE LIFE. I LOVE HIM BEYOND COMPARE.
DENVER MY ENTIRE LIFE. I LOVE HIM BEYOND COMPARE. BY GOLLY, NO ONE CAN CHEAT ME
I LOVE HIM BEYOND COMPARE. BY GOLLY, NO ONE CAN CHEAT ME OUT OF IT.
BY GOLLY, NO ONE CAN CHEAT ME OUT OF IT. DANCES WITH WOLVES, SAME THING.
OUT OF IT. DANCES WITH WOLVES, SAME THING. >> YOUR H ***?
DANCES WITH WOLVES, SAME THING. >> YOUR H ***? >> SCARLET OH A.
>> YOUR H ***? >> SCARLET OH A. RA.
>> SCARLET OH A. RA. ISN'T THAT AWFUL ANSWER BECAUSE
RA. ISN'T THAT AWFUL ANSWER BECAUSE YOU SHOULD SAY MELANIE, WHAT IS
ISN'T THAT AWFUL ANSWER BECAUSE YOU SHOULD SAY MELANIE, WHAT IS HER LAST NAME, THE OTHER HEROINE
YOU SHOULD SAY MELANIE, WHAT IS HER LAST NAME, THE OTHER HEROINE IN GONE WITH THE WIND.
HER LAST NAME, THE OTHER HEROINE IN GONE WITH THE WIND. >> I AM TOO YOUNG FOR THAT!
IN GONE WITH THE WIND. >> I AM TOO YOUNG FOR THAT! (LAUGHING) LAUGH.
>> I AM TOO YOUNG FOR THAT! (LAUGHING) LAUGH. >> YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO SAY THE
(LAUGHING) LAUGH. >> YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO SAY THE GOOD ONE!
>> YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO SAY THE GOOD ONE! (LAUGHING) NOT THE EVIL SORT OF
GOOD ONE! (LAUGHING) NOT THE EVIL SORT OF CUTTHROAT ONE.
(LAUGHING) NOT THE EVIL SORT OF CUTTHROAT ONE. NO, SCARLET OHARA.
CUTTHROAT ONE. NO, SCARLET OHARA. >>> THE MOST DIFFICULT DECISION?
NO, SCARLET OHARA. >>> THE MOST DIFFICULT DECISION? >> MY MOST DIFFICULT DECISION IS
>>> THE MOST DIFFICULT DECISION? >> MY MOST DIFFICULT DECISION IS PROBABLY COMING.
>> MY MOST DIFFICULT DECISION IS PROBABLY COMING. WHEN NOT TO DO THIS JOB ANY MORE
PROBABLY COMING. WHEN NOT TO DO THIS JOB ANY MORE WILL BE MY MOST DIFFICULT
WHEN NOT TO DO THIS JOB ANY MORE WILL BE MY MOST DIFFICULT DECISION.
WILL BE MY MOST DIFFICULT DECISION. IT WASN'T DIFFICULT TO TAKE IT.
DECISION. IT WASN'T DIFFICULT TO TAKE IT. WASN'T DIFFICULT TO HAVE -- TO
IT WASN'T DIFFICULT TO TAKE IT. WASN'T DIFFICULT TO HAVE -- TO MAKE THE DECISION TO HAVE
WASN'T DIFFICULT TO HAVE -- TO MAKE THE DECISION TO HAVE CHILDREN OR TO MARRY THE
MAKE THE DECISION TO HAVE CHILDREN OR TO MARRY THE WONDERFUL MANNY MARRIED OR TO
CHILDREN OR TO MARRY THE WONDERFUL MANNY MARRIED OR TO MAKE ANY OF THE MOVES I HAVE
WONDERFUL MANNY MARRIED OR TO MAKE ANY OF THE MOVES I HAVE MADE.
MAKE ANY OF THE MOVES I HAVE MADE. I HAVE THE LUXURY OF HAVING MADE
MADE. I HAVE THE LUXURY OF HAVING MADE DIFFICULT DECISIONS IN LIFE!
I HAVE THE LUXURY OF HAVING MADE DIFFICULT DECISIONS IN LIFE! >> ONE COMING UP.
DIFFICULT DECISIONS IN LIFE! >> ONE COMING UP. >> THERE IS ONE COMING.
>> ONE COMING UP. >> THERE IS ONE COMING. THERE IS ONE COMING.
>> THERE IS ONE COMING. THERE IS ONE COMING. FOR EVERY DEAN.
THERE IS ONE COMING. FOR EVERY DEAN. EVERY DEAN.
FOR EVERY DEAN. EVERY DEAN. I DON'T KNOW.
EVERY DEAN. I DON'T KNOW. BUT I CAN SEE IT COMING IN THE
I DON'T KNOW. BUT I CAN SEE IT COMING IN THE SENSE I AM ABOUT TO COMPLETE MY
BUT I CAN SEE IT COMING IN THE SENSE I AM ABOUT TO COMPLETE MY FIRST TERM, AND THAT POSES ME
SENSE I AM ABOUT TO COMPLETE MY FIRST TERM, AND THAT POSES ME WITH THE CHOICE OF WHETHER TO
FIRST TERM, AND THAT POSES ME WITH THE CHOICE OF WHETHER TO CONSIDER A SECOND TERM OR ACCEPT
WITH THE CHOICE OF WHETHER TO CONSIDER A SECOND TERM OR ACCEPT ONE WITH WHERE ONE SO GRACIOUSLY
CONSIDER A SECOND TERM OR ACCEPT ONE WITH WHERE ONE SO GRACIOUSLY OFFERED BY MY WONDERFUL FACULTY
ONE WITH WHERE ONE SO GRACIOUSLY OFFERED BY MY WONDERFUL FACULTY AND STAFF AND THE ADMINISTRATION
OFFERED BY MY WONDERFUL FACULTY AND STAFF AND THE ADMINISTRATION I WORK WITH.
AND STAFF AND THE ADMINISTRATION I WORK WITH. AND FOR EVERY DEAN, THE
I WORK WITH. AND FOR EVERY DEAN, THE REAPPOINTMENT DECISIONS HAVE TO
AND FOR EVERY DEAN, THE REAPPOINTMENT DECISIONS HAVE TO BE VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE THE
REAPPOINTMENT DECISIONS HAVE TO BE VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE THE JOB IS SO TERRIBLY DEMANDING I
BE VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE THE JOB IS SO TERRIBLY DEMANDING I HAVE NINE YEAR OLD TWINS.
JOB IS SO TERRIBLY DEMANDING I HAVE NINE YEAR OLD TWINS. I HAVE LOST YEARS OF TIME WITH
HAVE NINE YEAR OLD TWINS. I HAVE LOST YEARS OF TIME WITH THEM, AND I CAN FEEL THE PULL OF
I HAVE LOST YEARS OF TIME WITH THEM, AND I CAN FEEL THE PULL OF PHILOSOPHY AND THE PULL OF THE
THEM, AND I CAN FEEL THE PULL OF PHILOSOPHY AND THE PULL OF THE ATTRACTION OF GOING BACK TO THE
PHILOSOPHY AND THE PULL OF THE ATTRACTION OF GOING BACK TO THE ARTICLE WRITING THAT I LOVE AND
ATTRACTION OF GOING BACK TO THE ARTICLE WRITING THAT I LOVE AND TEACHING I LOVE AND BEING WITH
ARTICLE WRITING THAT I LOVE AND TEACHING I LOVE AND BEING WITH MY CHILDREN AND YET THIS IS JUST
TEACHING I LOVE AND BEING WITH MY CHILDREN AND YET THIS IS JUST TOO DARN MUCH FUN.
MY CHILDREN AND YET THIS IS JUST TOO DARN MUCH FUN. >> FOR NOW.
TOO DARN MUCH FUN. >> FOR NOW. >> MAKE AN EASY JOB.
>> FOR NOW. >> MAKE AN EASY JOB. ASY
>> MAKE AN EASY JOB. ASY DECISION.
ASY DECISION. >> YOUR WORST DECISION?
DECISION. >> YOUR WORST DECISION? >> UM, I HAVE MADE A LOT OF
>> YOUR WORST DECISION? >> UM, I HAVE MADE A LOT OF THOSE.
>> UM, I HAVE MADE A LOT OF THOSE. I MADE A LOT OF THOSE.
THOSE. I MADE A LOT OF THOSE. I DON'T HAVE ANY DECISIONS THAT
I MADE A LOT OF THOSE. I DON'T HAVE ANY DECISIONS THAT I SPEND TIME LYING AWAKE AT
I DON'T HAVE ANY DECISIONS THAT I SPEND TIME LYING AWAKE AT NIGHT REGRETTING.
I SPEND TIME LYING AWAKE AT NIGHT REGRETTING. I AM MAKING MISTAKES EVERY DAY.
NIGHT REGRETTING. I AM MAKING MISTAKES EVERY DAY. YOU KNOW WHAT THEY OFTEN ARE,
I AM MAKING MISTAKES EVERY DAY. YOU KNOW WHAT THEY OFTEN ARE, THEY ARE OFTEN MISTAKES OF NON-
YOU KNOW WHAT THEY OFTEN ARE, THEY ARE OFTEN MISTAKES OF NON- CONSULTATION, THAT IS IT IS
THEY ARE OFTEN MISTAKES OF NON- CONSULTATION, THAT IS IT IS NOT THAT THE DECISION ITSELF ON
CONSULTATION, THAT IS IT IS NOT THAT THE DECISION ITSELF ON THE MERITS MAY HAVE BEEN
NOT THAT THE DECISION ITSELF ON THE MERITS MAY HAVE BEEN MISTAKEN, BUT I WISH I HAD TIME
THE MERITS MAY HAVE BEEN MISTAKEN, BUT I WISH I HAD TIME TO CONSULT MORE BROADLY SO THAT
MISTAKEN, BUT I WISH I HAD TIME TO CONSULT MORE BROADLY SO THAT PEOPLE JOIN JUDGMENT OR JOINED
TO CONSULT MORE BROADLY SO THAT PEOPLE JOIN JUDGMENT OR JOINED IN DECISION.
PEOPLE JOIN JUDGMENT OR JOINED IN DECISION. I WISH I HAD THE LUXURY OF TIME
IN DECISION. I WISH I HAD THE LUXURY OF TIME AND PERSONALITY TO INDULGE
I WISH I HAD THE LUXURY OF TIME AND PERSONALITY TO INDULGE DEMOCRACY MORE.
AND PERSONALITY TO INDULGE DEMOCRACY MORE. IF YOU ASKED ANYBODY WHAT MY
DEMOCRACY MORE. IF YOU ASKED ANYBODY WHAT MY GREATEST WEAKNESS IS, THAT'S
IF YOU ASKED ANYBODY WHAT MY GREATEST WEAKNESS IS, THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY.
GREATEST WEAKNESS IS, THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY. >> YOU TEND TO BE TOO DECISIVE
WHAT THEY SAY. >> YOU TEND TO BE TOO DECISIVE TOO QUICKLY?
>> YOU TEND TO BE TOO DECISIVE TOO QUICKLY? >> PROBABLY.
TOO QUICKLY? >> PROBABLY. THAT'S A GOOD WAY OF SAYING T
>> PROBABLY. THAT'S A GOOD WAY OF SAYING T THAT'S A GOOD WAY OF SAYING T I
THAT'S A GOOD WAY OF SAYING T THAT'S A GOOD WAY OF SAYING T I AM DECISIVE WITHOUT SUSPICION
THAT'S A GOOD WAY OF SAYING T I AM DECISIVE WITHOUT SUSPICION BUY IN FROM THE LARGER
AM DECISIVE WITHOUT SUSPICION BUY IN FROM THE LARGER CONSTITUENTS IMPACTED BY THE
BUY IN FROM THE LARGER CONSTITUENTS IMPACTED BY THE DECISIONS.
CONSTITUENTS IMPACTED BY THE DECISIONS. YOU KNOW THE FLIP SIDE IS I AM
DECISIONS. YOU KNOW THE FLIP SIDE IS I AM CALLED UPON TO MAKE
YOU KNOW THE FLIP SIDE IS I AM CALLED UPON TO MAKE APPROXIMATELY 45 DECISIONS A
CALLED UPON TO MAKE APPROXIMATELY 45 DECISIONS A DAY, THREE OF THEM BIG, AND IN A
APPROXIMATELY 45 DECISIONS A DAY, THREE OF THEM BIG, AND IN A JOB OF THAT SORT, YOU DON'T HAVE
DAY, THREE OF THEM BIG, AND IN A JOB OF THAT SORT, YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO WALK THE HALLS.
JOB OF THAT SORT, YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO WALK THE HALLS. >> THE BUCK DOES STOP.
TIME TO WALK THE HALLS. >> THE BUCK DOES STOP. >> THE BUCK STOPS.
>> THE BUCK DOES STOP. >> THE BUCK STOPS. AND IN MANY, MANY CASES IT IS
>> THE BUCK STOPS. AND IN MANY, MANY CASES IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO MAKE A
AND IN MANY, MANY CASES IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO MAKE A DECISION THAN MAKE THE RIGHT
MORE IMPORTANT TO MAKE A DECISION THAN MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.
DECISION THAN MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. SO YOU HAVE TO GAUGE WHETHER YOU
DECISION. SO YOU HAVE TO GAUGE WHETHER YOU ARE IN ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS
SO YOU HAVE TO GAUGE WHETHER YOU ARE IN ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHAT IS NEEDED IS A COORDINATION
ARE IN ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHAT IS NEEDED IS A COORDINATION SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM OR WHETHER
WHAT IS NEEDED IS A COORDINATION SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM OR WHETHER WHETHER YOU ARE IN A SITUATION
SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM OR WHETHER WHETHER YOU ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU REALLY HAVE TO GET IT
WHETHER YOU ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU REALLY HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT.
WHERE YOU REALLY HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT. IF IT IS ONE YOU HAVE TO GET IT
RIGHT. IF IT IS ONE YOU HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT SITUATIONS, YOU WILL NEED
IF IT IS ONE YOU HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT SITUATIONS, YOU WILL NEED TO CONSULT ENOUGH TO GET IT
RIGHT SITUATIONS, YOU WILL NEED TO CONSULT ENOUGH TO GET IT RIGHT, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, NEXT
TO CONSULT ENOUGH TO GET IT RIGHT, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, NEXT STEP OUT YOU WILL HAVE TO BE IN
RIGHT, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, NEXT STEP OUT YOU WILL HAVE TO BE IN A SITUATION IN WHICH NOT ONLY
STEP OUT YOU WILL HAVE TO BE IN A SITUATION IN WHICH NOT ONLY YOU HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT, BUT
A SITUATION IN WHICH NOT ONLY YOU HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE PERCEIVE
YOU HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE PERCEIVE IT IT AS HAVING BEEN ARRIVED AT
YOU HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE PERCEIVE IT IT AS HAVING BEEN ARRIVED AT IN A RIGHT WAY.
IT IT AS HAVING BEEN ARRIVED AT IN A RIGHT WAY. I MAY MISJUDGE THE DIFFERENCE
IN A RIGHT WAY. I MAY MISJUDGE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SECOND AND THE THIRD
I MAY MISJUDGE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SECOND AND THE THIRD TOO OFTEN.
BETWEEN THE SECOND AND THE THIRD TOO OFTEN. >> ABSENCE DECISION IS
TOO OFTEN. >> ABSENCE DECISION IS OFTENTIMES A BAD DECISION.
>> ABSENCE DECISION IS OFTENTIMES A BAD DECISION. >> ABSOLUTELY.
OFTENTIMES A BAD DECISION. >> ABSOLUTELY. CAN'T KEEP
>> ABSOLUTELY. CAN'T KEEP WALKING THE HALLS AND RINGING
CAN'T KEEP WALKING THE HALLS AND RINGING YOUR HANDS TO MAKE SURE
WALKING THE HALLS AND RINGING YOUR HANDS TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS WITH YOU ON
YOUR HANDS TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS WITH YOU ON SOMETHING.
EVERYBODY IS WITH YOU ON SOMETHING. >> LET'S HYPOTHETICALLY YOU CAN
SOMETHING. >> LET'S HYPOTHETICALLY YOU CAN ASSUME WHOEVER YOU WISH TO BE
>> LET'S HYPOTHETICALLY YOU CAN ASSUME WHOEVER YOU WISH TO BE THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, WHO WOULD
ASSUME WHOEVER YOU WISH TO BE THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, WHO WOULD THAT BE?
THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, WHO WOULD THAT BE? >> AS A PERSON OR DESCRIPTION OF
THAT BE? >> AS A PERSON OR DESCRIPTION OF CHARACTERISTICS?
>> AS A PERSON OR DESCRIPTION OF CHARACTERISTICS? >> AS A PERSON.
CHARACTERISTICS? >> AS A PERSON. >> A PARTICULAR PERSON?
>> AS A PERSON. >> A PARTICULAR PERSON? >> A PARTICULAR HUMAN BEING, NOT
>> A PARTICULAR PERSON? >> A PARTICULAR HUMAN BEING, NOT A BUFFALO!
>> A PARTICULAR HUMAN BEING, NOT A BUFFALO! (LAUGHING) I DON'T WANT ANY
A BUFFALO! (LAUGHING) I DON'T WANT ANY BUFFALOES HERE.
(LAUGHING) I DON'T WANT ANY BUFFALOES HERE. >> WHO WOULD I MODEL MYSELF
BUFFALOES HERE. >> WHO WOULD I MODEL MYSELF AFTER?
>> WHO WOULD I MODEL MYSELF AFTER? >> WHO WOULD YOU WANT TO BE?
AFTER? >> WHO WOULD YOU WANT TO BE? >> CAN I BE A MAN OLDER THAN ME?
>> WHO WOULD YOU WANT TO BE? >> CAN I BE A MAN OLDER THAN ME? >> YOU CAN WHOMEVER YOU LIKE.
>> CAN I BE A MAN OLDER THAN ME? >> YOU CAN WHOMEVER YOU LIKE. >> OTHER THAN YOU?
>> YOU CAN WHOMEVER YOU LIKE. >> OTHER THAN YOU? >> OTHER THAN ME.
>> OTHER THAN YOU? >> OTHER THAN ME. >> I'D LIKE TO BE YOU.
>> OTHER THAN ME. >> I'D LIKE TO BE YOU. I HAD E LIKE TO BE MORE LIKE
>> I'D LIKE TO BE YOU. I HAD E LIKE TO BE MORE LIKE YOU.
I HAD E LIKE TO BE MORE LIKE YOU. >> THAT'S INTERESTING THAT YOU
YOU. >> THAT'S INTERESTING THAT YOU SAID THAT.
>> THAT'S INTERESTING THAT YOU SAID THAT. YOUR FEE FOR THIS PROGRAM IS
SAID THAT. YOUR FEE FOR THIS PROGRAM IS COST OF $3 MILLION, RATHER THAN
YOUR FEE FOR THIS PROGRAM IS COST OF $3 MILLION, RATHER THAN A MILLION, BUT GO AHEAD.
COST OF $3 MILLION, RATHER THAN A MILLION, BUT GO AHEAD. (LAUGHING).
A MILLION, BUT GO AHEAD. (LAUGHING). >> RIGHT NOW, OUR HEROES CHANGE
(LAUGHING). >> RIGHT NOW, OUR HEROES CHANGE IN LIFE.
>> RIGHT NOW, OUR HEROES CHANGE IN LIFE. I ALWAYS HAVE HEROES.
IN LIFE. I ALWAYS HAVE HEROES. RIGHT NOW, MY BIGGEST HERO IS
I ALWAYS HAVE HEROES. RIGHT NOW, MY BIGGEST HERO IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY
RIGHT NOW, MY BIGGEST HERO IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS, JOSEPH WHITE.
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS, JOSEPH WHITE. JOE WHITE IS -- I WANT TO BE
OF ILLINOIS, JOSEPH WHITE. JOE WHITE IS -- I WANT TO BE HIM.
JOE WHITE IS -- I WANT TO BE HIM. >> TERRIFIC.
HIM. >> TERRIFIC. >> I WANT TO BE HIM.
>> TERRIFIC. >> I WANT TO BE HIM. >> THE REST OF YOUR LIFE?
>> I WANT TO BE HIM. >> THE REST OF YOUR LIFE? >> I WILL -- WE CAN TRADE
>> THE REST OF YOUR LIFE? >> I WILL -- WE CAN TRADE TOMORROW.
>> I WILL -- WE CAN TRADE TOMORROW. JUST FOR ONE DAY?
TOMORROW. JUST FOR ONE DAY? >> JUST FOR ONE DAY.
JUST FOR ONE DAY? >> JUST FOR ONE DAY. GOLLY, THEN I WANT TO BE BRUCE
>> JUST FOR ONE DAY. GOLLY, THEN I WANT TO BE BRUCE WEBER JUST FOR THE EXPERIENCE!
GOLLY, THEN I WANT TO BE BRUCE WEBER JUST FOR THE EXPERIENCE! (LAUGHING).
WEBER JUST FOR THE EXPERIENCE! (LAUGHING). I DON'T KNOW.
(LAUGHING). I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW. >> BEAR WITH ME.
I DON'T KNOW. >> BEAR WITH ME. IF YOU CAN TALK TO ANYONE IN THE
>> BEAR WITH ME. IF YOU CAN TALK TO ANYONE IN THE WORLD THAT IS CURRENT, PAST, SEN
IF YOU CAN TALK TO ANYONE IN THE WORLD THAT IS CURRENT, PAST, SEN CENTURIES AGO, SIT DOWN AS WE
WORLD THAT IS CURRENT, PAST, SEN CENTURIES AGO, SIT DOWN AS WE ARE TALKING, MAN, WOMAN BEING
CENTURIES AGO, SIT DOWN AS WE ARE TALKING, MAN, WOMAN BEING CHILD, WHO WOULD THAT BE?
ARE TALKING, MAN, WOMAN BEING CHILD, WHO WOULD THAT BE? >> THAT ONE IS TOUGH.
CHILD, WHO WOULD THAT BE? >> THAT ONE IS TOUGH. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO ROBERT E
>> THAT ONE IS TOUGH. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO ROBERT E LEE.
I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO ROBERT E LEE. >> WHY?
LEE. >> WHY? >> LEE IS A THRILL OF MINE. I
>> WHY? >> LEE IS A THRILL OF MINE. I DON'T GET GETTYSBURG.
>> LEE IS A THRILL OF MINE. I DON'T GET GETTYSBURG. I DON'T GET WHY HE DID AT
DON'T GET GETTYSBURG. I DON'T GET WHY HE DID AT GETTYSBURG WHAT THE UNION DID AT
I DON'T GET WHY HE DID AT GETTYSBURG WHAT THE UNION DID AT FREDRICKSBURG.
GETTYSBURG WHAT THE UNION DID AT FREDRICKSBURG. I DON'T GET WHY HE DIDN'T LEARN
FREDRICKSBURG. I DON'T GET WHY HE DIDN'T LEARN THE LESSON ON RECENT EXPERIENCE.
I DON'T GET WHY HE DIDN'T LEARN THE LESSON ON RECENT EXPERIENCE. I AM CAPTIVATED BY THE CIVIL WAR
THE LESSON ON RECENT EXPERIENCE. I AM CAPTIVATED BY THE CIVIL WAR AND PARTICULARLY, HUGE LINCOLN
I AM CAPTIVATED BY THE CIVIL WAR AND PARTICULARLY, HUGE LINCOLN ADMIRER.
AND PARTICULARLY, HUGE LINCOLN ADMIRER. BUT I AM FASCINATED BY LEE.
ADMIRER. BUT I AM FASCINATED BY LEE. I WOULD LIKE TO SIT DOWN AND
BUT I AM FASCINATED BY LEE. I WOULD LIKE TO SIT DOWN AND UNDERSTAND WHY HE MADE THE CROSS
I WOULD LIKE TO SIT DOWN AND UNDERSTAND WHY HE MADE THE CROSS THE FIELD CHARGE DECISION.
UNDERSTAND WHY HE MADE THE CROSS THE FIELD CHARGE DECISION. >> HEY, BOB, WHY DID YOU DO
THE FIELD CHARGE DECISION. >> HEY, BOB, WHY DID YOU DO THIS?
>> HEY, BOB, WHY DID YOU DO THIS? >> WHY DID YOU DO THAT IN HE WAS
THIS? >> WHY DID YOU DO THAT IN HE WAS ADVISED NOT TO, MANIFESTLY A
>> WHY DID YOU DO THAT IN HE WAS ADVISED NOT TO, MANIFESTLY A REPEAT OF FREDERICKSBURG.
ADVISED NOT TO, MANIFESTLY A REPEAT OF FREDERICKSBURG. NOT WITH STANDING HIS NAPOLEANIC
REPEAT OF FREDERICKSBURG. NOT WITH STANDING HIS NAPOLEANIC PERSONALITY AND HAVING SAID TO
NOT WITH STANDING HIS NAPOLEANIC PERSONALITY AND HAVING SAID TO NAPOLEAN SO MUCH WHY YOU
PERSONALITY AND HAVING SAID TO NAPOLEAN SO MUCH WHY YOU WOULDN'T THINK THAT WOULD FAIL,
NAPOLEAN SO MUCH WHY YOU WOULDN'T THINK THAT WOULD FAIL, > HE WANTED TO BE A HERO,
WOULDN'T THINK THAT WOULD FAIL, > HE WANTED TO BE A HERO, DIDN'T HE?
> HE WANTED TO BE A HERO, DIDN'T HE? HE REALLY WANTED TO BE A HERO.
DIDN'T HE? HE REALLY WANTED TO BE A HERO. >> NOT A HERO WHEN YOU FAIL.
HE REALLY WANTED TO BE A HERO. >> NOT A HERO WHEN YOU FAIL. FREDERICKSBURG WASN'T THE MAKING
>> NOT A HERO WHEN YOU FAIL. FREDERICKSBURG WASN'T THE MAKING OF ANY HERO.
FREDERICKSBURG WASN'T THE MAKING OF ANY HERO. >> TO BE A HERO, YOU OFTEN HAVE
OF ANY HERO. >> TO BE A HERO, YOU OFTEN HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF FAILING, DO
>> TO BE A HERO, YOU OFTEN HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF FAILING, DO YOU NOT?
THE POSSIBILITY OF FAILING, DO YOU NOT? >> I THOUGHT UNTIL THAT MOMENT
YOU NOT? >> I THOUGHT UNTIL THAT MOMENT LEE HAD DONE A MARVELOUS JOB
>> I THOUGHT UNTIL THAT MOMENT LEE HAD DONE A MARVELOUS JOB SUCCESS WAS THERE.
LEE HAD DONE A MARVELOUS JOB SUCCESS WAS THERE. >> SUNRISE OR SUNSET, WHICH DO
SUCCESS WAS THERE. >> SUNRISE OR SUNSET, WHICH DO YOU PREFER?
>> SUNRISE OR SUNSET, WHICH DO YOU PREFER? >> SUNRISE.
YOU PREFER? >> SUNRISE. WHY?
>> SUNRISE. WHY? >> I AM A MORNING PERSON.
WHY? >> I AM A MORNING PERSON. >> I AM DEAD BY THREE IN THE
>> I AM A MORNING PERSON. >> I AM DEAD BY THREE IN THE AFTERNOON!
>> I AM DEAD BY THREE IN THE AFTERNOON! (LAUGHING) I DON'T TEACH AFTER
AFTERNOON! (LAUGHING) I DON'T TEACH AFTER ONE IN THE AFTERNOON!
(LAUGHING) I DON'T TEACH AFTER ONE IN THE AFTERNOON! NO.
ONE IN THE AFTERNOON! NO. I GET UP AROUND 4 IN THE
NO. I GET UP AROUND 4 IN THE MORNING.
I GET UP AROUND 4 IN THE MORNING. >> YOU LIBRARY TO DO THAT?
MORNING. >> YOU LIBRARY TO DO THAT? >> I LIKE THE QUIET OF THE
>> YOU LIBRARY TO DO THAT? >> I LIKE THE QUIET OF THE MORNING.
>> I LIKE THE QUIET OF THE MORNING. MY WORK IS MOSTLY DONE BY SEVEN
MORNING. MY WORK IS MOSTLY DONE BY SEVEN IN THE MORNING.
MY WORK IS MOSTLY DONE BY SEVEN IN THE MORNING. THE DAYS JUST ESCAPE.
IN THE MORNING. THE DAYS JUST ESCAPE. MY SERIOUS WORK GETS DONE
THE DAYS JUST ESCAPE. MY SERIOUS WORK GETS DONE BETWEEN 4 OR 4 IN BETWEEN THREE
MY SERIOUS WORK GETS DONE BETWEEN 4 OR 4 IN BETWEEN THREE OR FOUR IN THE MORNING.
BETWEEN 4 OR 4 IN BETWEEN THREE OR FOUR IN THE MORNING. >> YOU HAVE A TIME TO WRITE A
OR FOUR IN THE MORNING. >> YOU HAVE A TIME TO WRITE A FUN BOOK, WHAT WOULD THE TOPIC
>> YOU HAVE A TIME TO WRITE A FUN BOOK, WHAT WOULD THE TOPIC BE.
FUN BOOK, WHAT WOULD THE TOPIC BE. >> WHAT PHILOSOPHERS THINK AS
BE. >> WHAT PHILOSOPHERS THINK AS FUN BOOK MAY NOT BE WHAT
>> WHAT PHILOSOPHERS THINK AS FUN BOOK MAY NOT BE WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE THINKS IS A FUN
FUN BOOK MAY NOT BE WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE THINKS IS A FUN BOOK.
EVERYBODY ELSE THINKS IS A FUN BOOK. I HAVE A BOOK, LONG ARM OF THE
BOOK. I HAVE A BOOK, LONG ARM OF THE LAW.
I HAVE A BOOK, LONG ARM OF THE LAW. IT IS ABOUT HOW FAR LAW GETS TO
LAW. IT IS ABOUT HOW FAR LAW GETS TO REACH INTO YOUR LIFE.
IT IS ABOUT HOW FAR LAW GETS TO REACH INTO YOUR LIFE. DOES IT GET TO, YOU KNOW,
REACH INTO YOUR LIFE. DOES IT GET TO, YOU KNOW, REQUIRE YOU TO BE A GOOD
DOES IT GET TO, YOU KNOW, REQUIRE YOU TO BE A GOOD SAMARITAN ON PAIN OF CRIMINAL OR
REQUIRE YOU TO BE A GOOD SAMARITAN ON PAIN OF CRIMINAL OR TORT LIABILITY.
SAMARITAN ON PAIN OF CRIMINAL OR TORT LIABILITY. AS YOU WALK DOWN THE STREET, NOT
TORT LIABILITY. AS YOU WALK DOWN THE STREET, NOT WITH STANDING YOU ARE LATE TO
AS YOU WALK DOWN THE STREET, NOT WITH STANDING YOU ARE LATE TO MEETING, DOES IT GET TO REACH
WITH STANDING YOU ARE LATE TO MEETING, DOES IT GET TO REACH INTO YOUR HOUSEHOLD AND MAKE
MEETING, DOES IT GET TO REACH INTO YOUR HOUSEHOLD AND MAKE DECISIONS HOW YOU SHOULD PARENT
INTO YOUR HOUSEHOLD AND MAKE DECISIONS HOW YOU SHOULD PARENT YOUR CHILDREN.
DECISIONS HOW YOU SHOULD PARENT YOUR CHILDREN. DOES IT GET TO REACH INTO THE
YOUR CHILDREN. DOES IT GET TO REACH INTO THE BEDROOM?
DOES IT GET TO REACH INTO THE BEDROOM? I REALLY AM FASCINATED BY THE
BEDROOM? I REALLY AM FASCINATED BY THE TOPIC HOW MUCH LIBERTY LAW GETS
I REALLY AM FASCINATED BY THE TOPIC HOW MUCH LIBERTY LAW GETS TO CONSUME.
TOPIC HOW MUCH LIBERTY LAW GETS TO CONSUME. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT, LET'S
TO CONSUME. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT, LET'S CALLED THE FUN BOOK.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT, LET'S CALLED THE FUN BOOK. I THINK.
CALLED THE FUN BOOK. I THINK. >> I THINK THIS IS FUN.
I THINK. >> I THINK THIS IS FUN. >> I THINK IT IS FUN.
>> I THINK THIS IS FUN. >> I THINK IT IS FUN. YOU OBVIOUSLY THINK IT IS FUN.
>> I THINK IT IS FUN. YOU OBVIOUSLY THINK IT IS FUN. WOULD YOU LIKE TO WRITE ABOUT
YOU OBVIOUSLY THINK IT IS FUN. WOULD YOU LIKE TO WRITE ABOUT SUNRISE S?
WOULD YOU LIKE TO WRITE ABOUT SUNRISE S? THERE IS SOMETHING THAT SUN
SUNRISE S? THERE IS SOMETHING THAT SUN DOESN'T RELATE TO ANYTHING IN
THERE IS SOMETHING THAT SUN DOESN'T RELATE TO ANYTHING IN REGARD TO YOUR DAY JOB.
DOESN'T RELATE TO ANYTHING IN REGARD TO YOUR DAY JOB. >> I CAN THINK OF SOME THINGS,
REGARD TO YOUR DAY JOB. >> I CAN THINK OF SOME THINGS, AND IT IS THE WHITEWATER RAFTING
>> I CAN THINK OF SOME THINGS, AND IT IS THE WHITEWATER RAFTING THING.
AND IT IS THE WHITEWATER RAFTING THING. IF I AM NOT DOING LAW AND LEGAL
THING. IF I AM NOT DOING LAW AND LEGAL PHILOSOPHY, THEN I AM THINKING
IF I AM NOT DOING LAW AND LEGAL PHILOSOPHY, THEN I AM THINKING ABOUT THE OUTDOORS.
PHILOSOPHY, THEN I AM THINKING ABOUT THE OUTDOORS. I HAVE A GREAT -- I AM A GREAT
ABOUT THE OUTDOORS. I HAVE A GREAT -- I AM A GREAT ARMCHAIR MOUNTAINEER.
I HAVE A GREAT -- I AM A GREAT ARMCHAIR MOUNTAINEER. I HAVE A VOR RAY SHUS APPETITE
ARMCHAIR MOUNTAINEER. I HAVE A VOR RAY SHUS APPETITE TO READ ABOUT REMOTE ADVENTURES,
I HAVE A VOR RAY SHUS APPETITE TO READ ABOUT REMOTE ADVENTURES, PARTICULARLY ABOUT MOUNTAIN
TO READ ABOUT REMOTE ADVENTURES, PARTICULARLY ABOUT MOUNTAIN EARS.
PARTICULARLY ABOUT MOUNTAIN EARS. ALTHOUGH I READ ABOUT PEOPLE IN
EARS. ALTHOUGH I READ ABOUT PEOPLE IN THE OCEAN AS WELL.
ALTHOUGH I READ ABOUT PEOPLE IN THE OCEAN AS WELL. I REALLY LIKE TALES OF LIFE AND
THE OCEAN AS WELL. I REALLY LIKE TALES OF LIFE AND DEATH ENCOUNTERS IN THE
I REALLY LIKE TALES OF LIFE AND DEATH ENCOUNTERS IN THE WILDERNESS.
DEATH ENCOUNTERS IN THE WILDERNESS. I WOULD WRITE A BIOGRAPHICAL
WILDERNESS. I WOULD WRITE A BIOGRAPHICAL STORY ABOUT OR STORIES ABOUT
I WOULD WRITE A BIOGRAPHICAL STORY ABOUT OR STORIES ABOUT SOME OF THE GREAT MOUNTAIN EARS
STORY ABOUT OR STORIES ABOUT SOME OF THE GREAT MOUNTAIN EARS AND THIS RECENT STORY, THE
SOME OF THE GREAT MOUNTAIN EARS AND THIS RECENT STORY, THE THOUGHT THAT AS MANY PEOPLE AS
AND THIS RECENT STORY, THE THOUGHT THAT AS MANY PEOPLE AS DID COULD PASS BY SOMEBODY DYING
THOUGHT THAT AS MANY PEOPLE AS DID COULD PASS BY SOMEBODY DYING ON EVER REST PLANK ON THEIR WAY
DID COULD PASS BY SOMEBODY DYING ON EVER REST PLANK ON THEIR WAY TO THE SUMMIT, THAT'S THE BOOK
ON EVER REST PLANK ON THEIR WAY TO THE SUMMIT, THAT'S THE BOOK I'D LIKE TO WRITE.
TO THE SUMMIT, THAT'S THE BOOK I'D LIKE TO WRITE. >> DISCOVER YOUR FIRST PERSON OF
I'D LIKE TO WRITE. >> DISCOVER YOUR FIRST PERSON OF THE NORTH POLE, SOUTH POLE BE
>> DISCOVER YOUR FIRST PERSON OF THE NORTH POLE, SOUTH POLE BE THAT'S THE SORT OF THING THAT IN
THE NORTH POLE, SOUTH POLE BE THAT'S THE SORT OF THING THAT IN INTRIGUES YOU?
THAT'S THE SORT OF THING THAT IN INTRIGUES YOU? >> ABSOLUTELY.
INTRIGUES YOU? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> YOU HAVE SERIES WHERE THEY
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> YOU HAVE SERIES WHERE THEY WOULD CATCH FISH IN THE ALASKAN
>> YOU HAVE SERIES WHERE THEY WOULD CATCH FISH IN THE ALASKAN OCEAN, THAT WOULD INTRIGUE YOU?
WOULD CATCH FISH IN THE ALASKAN OCEAN, THAT WOULD INTRIGUE YOU? >> I AM ALL OVER THAT ONE, YES.
OCEAN, THAT WOULD INTRIGUE YOU? >> I AM ALL OVER THAT ONE, YES. >> IF YOU HAD POWER TO CHANGE
>> I AM ALL OVER THAT ONE, YES. >> IF YOU HAD POWER TO CHANGE THE WORLD TODAY ARE WHERE WOULD
>> IF YOU HAD POWER TO CHANGE THE WORLD TODAY ARE WHERE WOULD YOU START?
THE WORLD TODAY ARE WHERE WOULD YOU START? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, THE
YOU START? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM -- I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM -- I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING INTERESTING TO SAY IN RESPONSE
PROBLEM -- I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING INTERESTING TO SAY IN RESPONSE TO THAT QUESTION.
INTERESTING TO SAY IN RESPONSE TO THAT QUESTION. WHERE WOULD YOU START, YOU'D
TO THAT QUESTION. WHERE WOULD YOU START, YOU'D START WITH HUNGER.
WHERE WOULD YOU START, YOU'D START WITH HUNGER. WHAT IS IT LIKE TO BE AS HUNGRY
START WITH HUNGER. WHAT IS IT LIKE TO BE AS HUNGRY AS SO MANY PEOPLE ARE?
WHAT IS IT LIKE TO BE AS HUNGRY AS SO MANY PEOPLE ARE? I WAS HUNGRY YESTERDAY BECAUSE I
AS SO MANY PEOPLE ARE? I WAS HUNGRY YESTERDAY BECAUSE I MISSED A MEAL BY AN HOUR AND A
I WAS HUNGRY YESTERDAY BECAUSE I MISSED A MEAL BY AN HOUR AND A HALF, AND MY STOMACH WAS
MISSED A MEAL BY AN HOUR AND A HALF, AND MY STOMACH WAS RUMBLING, AND I COULDN'T GET TO
HALF, AND MY STOMACH WAS RUMBLING, AND I COULDN'T GET TO THIRD.
RUMBLING, AND I COULDN'T GET TO THIRD. IT WAS ONE OF THOSE WHERE YOU
THIRD. IT WAS ONE OF THOSE WHERE YOU ARE TRAPPED IN A SITUATION WHERE
IT WAS ONE OF THOSE WHERE YOU ARE TRAPPED IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU WILL BE ANOTHER HOUR BEFORE
ARE TRAPPED IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU WILL BE ANOTHER HOUR BEFORE YOU FIND A BAGEL.
YOU WILL BE ANOTHER HOUR BEFORE YOU FIND A BAGEL. I DIDN'T HAVE A PIECE OF GUM.
YOU FIND A BAGEL. I DIDN'T HAVE A PIECE OF GUM. I WAS UNCOMFORTABLE.
I DIDN'T HAVE A PIECE OF GUM. I WAS UNCOMFORTABLE. I WAS SITTING THERE THINKING
I WAS UNCOMFORTABLE. I WAS SITTING THERE THINKING WHAT WOULD IT BE LIKE TO FEEL
I WAS SITTING THERE THINKING WHAT WOULD IT BE LIKE TO FEEL LIKE THIS TIMES A HUNDRED, TIMES
WHAT WOULD IT BE LIKE TO FEEL LIKE THIS TIMES A HUNDRED, TIMES FIVE HUNDRED.
LIKE THIS TIMES A HUNDRED, TIMES FIVE HUNDRED. WHAT WOULD IT LIKE TO BE HUNGRY
FIVE HUNDRED. WHAT WOULD IT LIKE TO BE HUNGRY AND HAVE YOUR CHILDREN BE HUNGRY
WHAT WOULD IT LIKE TO BE HUNGRY AND HAVE YOUR CHILDREN BE HUNGRY AND NOT BE ABLE TO LAY YOUR
AND HAVE YOUR CHILDREN BE HUNGRY AND NOT BE ABLE TO LAY YOUR HANDS ON A MORE SELL OF FOOD?
AND NOT BE ABLE TO LAY YOUR HANDS ON A MORE SELL OF FOOD? I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE, YOU KNOW,
HANDS ON A MORE SELL OF FOOD? I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, HOW DEVASTATINGLY AWFUL THAT
I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, HOW DEVASTATINGLY AWFUL THAT MUST BE.
HOW DEVASTATINGLY AWFUL THAT MUST BE. SO WHAT DO YOU DO YOU START WITH
MUST BE. SO WHAT DO YOU DO YOU START WITH WORLD HUNGER AND MOVE ONTO RACE
SO WHAT DO YOU DO YOU START WITH WORLD HUNGER AND MOVE ONTO RACE RELATIONS AND AIDS.
WORLD HUNGER AND MOVE ONTO RACE RELATIONS AND AIDS. I DON'T KNOW.
RELATIONS AND AIDS. I DON'T KNOW. THE WORLD IS GRIPPED WITH SUCH
I DON'T KNOW. THE WORLD IS GRIPPED WITH SUCH DEVASTATING PROBLEMS, YOU CAN'T
THE WORLD IS GRIPPED WITH SUCH DEVASTATING PROBLEMS, YOU CAN'T IMAGINE PEOPLE LIVE WITH AND
DEVASTATING PROBLEMS, YOU CAN'T IMAGINE PEOPLE LIVE WITH AND ENDURE.
IMAGINE PEOPLE LIVE WITH AND ENDURE. >> HEALTH CARE?
ENDURE. >> HEALTH CARE? >> HEALTH CARE.
>> HEALTH CARE? >> HEALTH CARE. >> IS A PROBLEM.
>> HEALTH CARE. >> IS A PROBLEM. >> IS A PROBLEM.
>> IS A PROBLEM. >> IS A PROBLEM. RIGHT.
>> IS A PROBLEM. RIGHT. >> A BIG PROBLEM.
RIGHT. >> A BIG PROBLEM. >> RIGHT.
>> A BIG PROBLEM. >> RIGHT. >> AGING POPULATION.
>> RIGHT. >> AGING POPULATION. >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> AGING POPULATION. >> ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. ELDER ABUSE.
ABSOLUTELY. ELDER ABUSE. AWFUL I FINISH THE SENTENCE FOR
ELDER ABUSE. AWFUL I FINISH THE SENTENCE FOR ME?
AWFUL I FINISH THE SENTENCE FOR ME? THE MOST BEAUTIFUL THING I HAVE
ME? THE MOST BEAUTIFUL THING I HAVE EVER SEEN IS .
THE MOST BEAUTIFUL THING I HAVE EVER SEEN IS . >> OH, MY CHILDREN SLEEPING AND
EVER SEEN IS . >> OH, MY CHILDREN SLEEPING AND THEY SLEEP TOGETHER AND CRAWL IN
>> OH, MY CHILDREN SLEEPING AND THEY SLEEP TOGETHER AND CRAWL IN BED WITH EACH OARK ALTHOUGH BOTH
THEY SLEEP TOGETHER AND CRAWL IN BED WITH EACH OARK ALTHOUGH BOTH CRAWL IN MY BED.
BED WITH EACH OARK ALTHOUGH BOTH CRAWL IN MY BED. THEY ARE FAST ASLEEP, EVERY
CRAWL IN MY BED. THEY ARE FAST ASLEEP, EVERY PARENT KNOWS, AT NINE, THEY
THEY ARE FAST ASLEEP, EVERY PARENT KNOWS, AT NINE, THEY LOOKED EXACTLY LIKE THEY LOOKED
PARENT KNOWS, AT NINE, THEY LOOKED EXACTLY LIKE THEY LOOKED WHEN I FIRST SAW THEM LYING ON
LOOKED EXACTLY LIKE THEY LOOKED WHEN I FIRST SAW THEM LYING ON THE HOSPITAL BEDS, ANGELIC LOOKS
WHEN I FIRST SAW THEM LYING ON THE HOSPITAL BEDS, ANGELIC LOOKS >> HEIDI, WHAT DRIVES YOU?
THE HOSPITAL BEDS, ANGELIC LOOKS >> HEIDI, WHAT DRIVES YOU? >> QUIRKY PASSION FOR HOW
>> HEIDI, WHAT DRIVES YOU? >> QUIRKY PASSION FOR HOW INSTITUTIONS AFFECT WHETHER
>> QUIRKY PASSION FOR HOW INSTITUTIONS AFFECT WHETHER PEOPLE ARE THEMSELVES AT THEIR
INSTITUTIONS AFFECT WHETHER PEOPLE ARE THEMSELVES AT THEIR VERY BEST OR NOT, ALL RIGHT.
PEOPLE ARE THEMSELVES AT THEIR VERY BEST OR NOT, ALL RIGHT. WHAT DRIVES ME IS A PASSION FOR
VERY BEST OR NOT, ALL RIGHT. WHAT DRIVES ME IS A PASSION FOR PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT AND SINCE I
WHAT DRIVES ME IS A PASSION FOR PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT AND SINCE I SEEM TO FAIL AT THAT TAS TASK I
PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT AND SINCE I SEEM TO FAIL AT THAT TAS TASK I AM INTERESTED TO SEE HOW
SEEM TO FAIL AT THAT TAS TASK I AM INTERESTED TO SEE HOW INSTITUTIONS LIBRARY ME CAN
AM INTERESTED TO SEE HOW INSTITUTIONS LIBRARY ME CAN IMPROVE THEMSELVES, IMPROVE
INSTITUTIONS LIBRARY ME CAN IMPROVE THEMSELVES, IMPROVE THEIR CHARACTERS, OR IF I CAN'T
IMPROVE THEMSELVES, IMPROVE THEIR CHARACTERS, OR IF I CAN'T ACCOMPLISH IT QUITE IN MY OWN
THEIR CHARACTERS, OR IF I CAN'T ACCOMPLISH IT QUITE IN MY OWN CASE, I CAN'T BECOME JOE WHITE
ACCOMPLISH IT QUITE IN MY OWN CASE, I CAN'T BECOME JOE WHITE TOMORROW, I AM INTERESTED IN HOW
CASE, I CAN'T BECOME JOE WHITE TOMORROW, I AM INTERESTED IN HOW INSTITUTIONS CAN BE BUILT TO
TOMORROW, I AM INTERESTED IN HOW INSTITUTIONS CAN BE BUILT TO ESSENTIALLY CAPTURE THAT GOAL OF
INSTITUTIONS CAN BE BUILT TO ESSENTIALLY CAPTURE THAT GOAL OF BRINGING OUT PEOPLE'S BEST AND
ESSENTIALLY CAPTURE THAT GOAL OF BRINGING OUT PEOPLE'S BEST AND SUPPRESSING THEIR WORTH.
BRINGING OUT PEOPLE'S BEST AND SUPPRESSING THEIR WORTH. THAT FASCINATES ME, AND I THINK
SUPPRESSING THEIR WORTH. THAT FASCINATES ME, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT LAW IS ALL ABOUT,
THAT FASCINATES ME, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT LAW IS ALL ABOUT, TOO.
THAT'S WHAT LAW IS ALL ABOUT, TOO. THAT'S HOW LAW AFFECTS OUR
TOO. THAT'S HOW LAW AFFECTS OUR LIVES.
THAT'S HOW LAW AFFECTS OUR LIVES. IT IS AT ITS BEST WHEN IT BRINGS
LIVES. IT IS AT ITS BEST WHEN IT BRINGS OUT OUR BEST AND SUPPRESSING OUR
IT IS AT ITS BEST WHEN IT BRINGS OUT OUR BEST AND SUPPRESSING OUR WORST.
OUT OUR BEST AND SUPPRESSING OUR WORST. >> THINGS THAT UPSET YOU AND
WORST. >> THINGS THAT UPSET YOU AND DRIVES YOU.
>> THINGS THAT UPSET YOU AND DRIVES YOU. >> I DO EVERYTHING BECAUSE OF
DRIVES YOU. >> I DO EVERYTHING BECAUSE OF FEAR OF FAILURE.
>> I DO EVERYTHING BECAUSE OF FEAR OF FAILURE. IF I DON'T THINK I FAIL, I AM
FEAR OF FAILURE. IF I DON'T THINK I FAIL, I AM DONE, I NEED TO MOVE ON.
IF I DON'T THINK I FAIL, I AM DONE, I NEED TO MOVE ON. I GOT THIS JOB BECAUSE I STOPPED
DONE, I NEED TO MOVE ON. I GOT THIS JOB BECAUSE I STOPPED LOSING SLEEP.
I GOT THIS JOB BECAUSE I STOPPED LOSING SLEEP. I KNEW I COULD WRITE ARTICLES.
LOSING SLEEP. I KNEW I COULD WRITE ARTICLES. I KNEW I COULD DEFEND THEM IN
I KNEW I COULD WRITE ARTICLES. I KNEW I COULD DEFEND THEM IN FRONT OF RIGOROUS ARTICLES.
I KNEW I COULD DEFEND THEM IN FRONT OF RIGOROUS ARTICLES. I KNEW I COULD TEACH.
FRONT OF RIGOROUS ARTICLES. I KNEW I COULD TEACH. I WASN'T LOSING SLEEP.
I KNEW I COULD TEACH. I WASN'T LOSING SLEEP. I LOST A LOT OF SLEEP ON THIS
I WASN'T LOSING SLEEP. I LOST A LOT OF SLEEP ON THIS JOB.
I LOST A LOT OF SLEEP ON THIS JOB. FEAR OF FAILURE, ABSOLUTELY
JOB. FEAR OF FAILURE, ABSOLUTELY DRIVES EVERYTHING I DO.
FEAR OF FAILURE, ABSOLUTELY DRIVES EVERYTHING I DO. >> THERE WERE 50 APPLICANTS FOR
DRIVES EVERYTHING I DO. >> THERE WERE 50 APPLICANTS FOR THIS JOB.
>> THERE WERE 50 APPLICANTS FOR THIS JOB. YOU WERE THE FIRST WOMAN.
THIS JOB. YOU WERE THE FIRST WOMAN. HOW DID YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT?
YOU WERE THE FIRST WOMAN. HOW DID YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? >> YOU KNOW, IT IS A LITTLE LIKE
HOW DID YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? >> YOU KNOW, IT IS A LITTLE LIKE ASKING ABOUT WHAT IT FEELS LIKE
>> YOU KNOW, IT IS A LITTLE LIKE ASKING ABOUT WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO BE A BAD.
ASKING ABOUT WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO BE A BAD. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT FEELS LIKE
TO BE A BAD. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO BE THE FIRST WOMAN!
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO BE THE FIRST WOMAN! (LAUGHING) WHAT DOES IT FEEL
TO BE THE FIRST WOMAN! (LAUGHING) WHAT DOES IT FEEL LIKE TO BE YOU!
(LAUGHING) WHAT DOES IT FEEL LIKE TO BE YOU! I CAN ASK THAT QUESTION OF ME
LIKE TO BE YOU! I CAN ASK THAT QUESTION OF ME BUT CAN'T ASK IT OF YOU.
I CAN ASK THAT QUESTION OF ME BUT CAN'T ASK IT OF YOU. I THINK THE DAY WILL COME
BUT CAN'T ASK IT OF YOU. I THINK THE DAY WILL COME WEATHER NO ONE WILL THINK IT IS
I THINK THE DAY WILL COME WEATHER NO ONE WILL THINK IT IS INTERESTING WHAT IT IS LIKE TO
WEATHER NO ONE WILL THINK IT IS INTERESTING WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE THE FIRST WOMAN BECAUSE WOMAN
INTERESTING WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE THE FIRST WOMAN BECAUSE WOMAN WILL HAVE ASSUMED POSITIONS OF
BE THE FIRST WOMAN BECAUSE WOMAN WILL HAVE ASSUMED POSITIONS OF POWER ACROSS OUR SOCIETY AND
WILL HAVE ASSUMED POSITIONS OF POWER ACROSS OUR SOCIETY AND WILL HAVE OCCUPIED THEM FOR SO
POWER ACROSS OUR SOCIETY AND WILL HAVE OCCUPIED THEM FOR SO LONG THAT THE GENDER OF A LEADER
WILL HAVE OCCUPIED THEM FOR SO LONG THAT THE GENDER OF A LEADER JUST DROPS OUT AS THOROUGHLY AS
LONG THAT THE GENDER OF A LEADER JUST DROPS OUT AS THOROUGHLY AS UNINTERESTING AND IRRELEVANT.
JUST DROPS OUT AS THOROUGHLY AS UNINTERESTING AND IRRELEVANT. I WOULD SAY IN MY CASE, AND THIS
UNINTERESTING AND IRRELEVANT. I WOULD SAY IN MY CASE, AND THIS IS A VERY PROBABLY UNFEMINIST,
I WOULD SAY IN MY CASE, AND THIS IS A VERY PROBABLY UNFEMINIST, UNFEMINIST THING TO SAY, I DON'T
IS A VERY PROBABLY UNFEMINIST, UNFEMINIST THING TO SAY, I DON'T IDENTIFY MYSELF AS A WOMAN.
UNFEMINIST THING TO SAY, I DON'T IDENTIFY MYSELF AS A WOMAN. I DON'T IDENTIFY WITH BEING A
IDENTIFY MYSELF AS A WOMAN. I DON'T IDENTIFY WITH BEING A WOMAN.
I DON'T IDENTIFY WITH BEING A WOMAN. IT DOESN'T PLAY A ROLE IN MY
WOMAN. IT DOESN'T PLAY A ROLE IN MY CONCEPTION OF HOW I RUN THE LAW
IT DOESN'T PLAY A ROLE IN MY CONCEPTION OF HOW I RUN THE LAW SCHOOL OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT I DO.
CONCEPTION OF HOW I RUN THE LAW SCHOOL OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT I DO. >> THIS BUFFALO EXPERIENCE!
SCHOOL OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT I DO. >> THIS BUFFALO EXPERIENCE! THE BUFFALO BILL.
>> THIS BUFFALO EXPERIENCE! THE BUFFALO BILL. >> (LAUGHING).
THE BUFFALO BILL. >> (LAUGHING). >> AT ANY POINT IN YOUR CAREER,
>> (LAUGHING). >> AT ANY POINT IN YOUR CAREER, DID YOU EVER THINK YOU WOULD END
>> AT ANY POINT IN YOUR CAREER, DID YOU EVER THINK YOU WOULD END UP BEING A DEAN OF A LAW SCHOOL.
DID YOU EVER THINK YOU WOULD END UP BEING A DEAN OF A LAW SCHOOL. >> NO.
UP BEING A DEAN OF A LAW SCHOOL. >> NO. NO.
>> NO. NO. WHEN I GOT THE CALL FROM DEAN OF
NO. WHEN I GOT THE CALL FROM DEAN OF ENGINEERING, AND I WAS IN
WHEN I GOT THE CALL FROM DEAN OF ENGINEERING, AND I WAS IN AUSTRALIA, HE SAID THIS IS THE
ENGINEERING, AND I WAS IN AUSTRALIA, HE SAID THIS IS THE DEAN OF COLLEGE OF ENGINEERING
AUSTRALIA, HE SAID THIS IS THE DEAN OF COLLEGE OF ENGINEERING AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS, I
DEAN OF COLLEGE OF ENGINEERING AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS, I THOUGHT, HE HAS GOT THE WRONG
AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS, I THOUGHT, HE HAS GOT THE WRONG NUMBER!
THOUGHT, HE HAS GOT THE WRONG NUMBER! (LAUGHING) IN A REALLY BIG WAY
NUMBER! (LAUGHING) IN A REALLY BIG WAY BECAUSE THIS CALL CAME TO
(LAUGHING) IN A REALLY BIG WAY BECAUSE THIS CALL CAME TO AUSTRALIA.
BECAUSE THIS CALL CAME TO AUSTRALIA. NO.
AUSTRALIA. NO. NO.
NO. NO. UNTIL THAT MOMENT, IT WAS
NO. UNTIL THAT MOMENT, IT WAS ENORMOUS SURPRISE.
UNTIL THAT MOMENT, IT WAS ENORMOUS SURPRISE. >> NEVER ANY ELECTION --
ENORMOUS SURPRISE. >> NEVER ANY ELECTION -- >> I WAS THE ASSOCIATE DEAN AT
>> NEVER ANY ELECTION -- >> I WAS THE ASSOCIATE DEAN AT UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA LAW
>> I WAS THE ASSOCIATE DEAN AT UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA LAW SCHOOL FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA LAW SCHOOL FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. YOU KNOW, NOT REALLY.
SCHOOL FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. YOU KNOW, NOT REALLY. I AM NOT REALLY SURE I EVER
YOU KNOW, NOT REALLY. I AM NOT REALLY SURE I EVER WANTED TO BE UNTIL I BUMPED INTO
I AM NOT REALLY SURE I EVER WANTED TO BE UNTIL I BUMPED INTO THIS DEANSHIP.
WANTED TO BE UNTIL I BUMPED INTO THIS DEANSHIP. UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS IS A
THIS DEANSHIP. UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS IS A UNIQUE PLACE, PLACE DOMINATED BY
UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS IS A UNIQUE PLACE, PLACE DOMINATED BY PEOPLE WHO INVESTIGATE THE VERY
UNIQUE PLACE, PLACE DOMINATED BY PEOPLE WHO INVESTIGATE THE VERY CORE ASPECTS OF KNOWLEDGE,
PEOPLE WHO INVESTIGATE THE VERY CORE ASPECTS OF KNOWLEDGE, RIGHT, SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING,
CORE ASPECTS OF KNOWLEDGE, RIGHT, SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING, TECHNOLOGY.
RIGHT, SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING, TECHNOLOGY. AND BEING DEAN OF A LAW SCHOOL
TECHNOLOGY. AND BEING DEAN OF A LAW SCHOOL AT A UNIVERSITY OF THIS STATURE,
AND BEING DEAN OF A LAW SCHOOL AT A UNIVERSITY OF THIS STATURE, MAKES YOU WANT TO SORT OF MODEL
AT A UNIVERSITY OF THIS STATURE, MAKES YOU WANT TO SORT OF MODEL YOUR INSTITUTION IN ITS IMAGE.
MAKES YOU WANT TO SORT OF MODEL YOUR INSTITUTION IN ITS IMAGE. THAT'S A CHALLENGE.
YOUR INSTITUTION IN ITS IMAGE. THAT'S A CHALLENGE. >> IDEA OF A NEW LAW SCHOOL.
THAT'S A CHALLENGE. >> IDEA OF A NEW LAW SCHOOL. >> A NEW BUILDING?
>> IDEA OF A NEW LAW SCHOOL. >> A NEW BUILDING? >> NEW BUILDING.
>> A NEW BUILDING? >> NEW BUILDING. HEAVYWEIGHT IDEA?
>> NEW BUILDING. HEAVYWEIGHT IDEA? >> LOVE IT.
HEAVYWEIGHT IDEA? >> LOVE IT. GOT TO HAVE IT.
>> LOVE IT. GOT TO HAVE IT. GOT TO DO IT.
GOT TO HAVE IT. GOT TO DO IT. >> THERE WILL BE A NEW BUILDING?
GOT TO DO IT. >> THERE WILL BE A NEW BUILDING? IF YOU DON'T ACHIEVE THAT?
>> THERE WILL BE A NEW BUILDING? IF YOU DON'T ACHIEVE THAT? >> WELL RENOVATE THE CURRENT ONE
IF YOU DON'T ACHIEVE THAT? >> WELL RENOVATE THE CURRENT ONE AND BE JUST AS GREAT IN THE
>> WELL RENOVATE THE CURRENT ONE AND BE JUST AS GREAT IN THE FUTURE.
AND BE JUST AS GREAT IN THE FUTURE. >> YOU HAVE NO DOUBT IN YOUR
FUTURE. >> YOU HAVE NO DOUBT IN YOUR MIND THAT THERE WILL BE
>> YOU HAVE NO DOUBT IN YOUR MIND THAT THERE WILL BE SOMETHING LIKE A NEW BUILDING?
MIND THAT THERE WILL BE SOMETHING LIKE A NEW BUILDING? >> I HAVE PLENTY OF DOUBTS, AND
SOMETHING LIKE A NEW BUILDING? >> I HAVE PLENTY OF DOUBTS, AND I AM NOT ABOUT TO VENTURE FOR US
>> I HAVE PLENTY OF DOUBTS, AND I AM NOT ABOUT TO VENTURE FOR US IN THIS SETTING BY SUGGESTING
I AM NOT ABOUT TO VENTURE FOR US IN THIS SETTING BY SUGGESTING ANYTHING OTHER THAN THOSE WHO I
IN THIS SETTING BY SUGGESTING ANYTHING OTHER THAN THOSE WHO I CONSIDER MY BOSSES ARE THE ONES
ANYTHING OTHER THAN THOSE WHO I CONSIDER MY BOSSES ARE THE ONES WHO WILL LAY CLAIM TO THE ANSWER
CONSIDER MY BOSSES ARE THE ONES WHO WILL LAY CLAIM TO THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
WHO WILL LAY CLAIM TO THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. BUT I WILL SERPLY DO EVERYTHING
TO THAT QUESTION. BUT I WILL SERPLY DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO PERSUADE THOSE MAYBE
BUT I WILL SERPLY DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO PERSUADE THOSE MAYBE UNCONVINCED A NEW BUILDING IS
I CAN TO PERSUADE THOSE MAYBE UNCONVINCED A NEW BUILDING IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL TO THE
UNCONVINCED A NEW BUILDING IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL TO THE LONG-TERM STATURE OF THE
ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL TO THE LONG-TERM STATURE OF THE COLLEGE.
LONG-TERM STATURE OF THE COLLEGE. IT HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY GREAT
COLLEGE. IT HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY GREAT SCHOOL MORE THAN A HUNDRED
IT HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY GREAT SCHOOL MORE THAN A HUNDRED YEARS.
SCHOOL MORE THAN A HUNDRED YEARS. WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO BE A GREAT
YEARS. WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO BE A GREAT LAW SCHOOL A HUNDRED YEARS FROM
WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO BE A GREAT LAW SCHOOL A HUNDRED YEARS FROM NOW?
LAW SCHOOL A HUNDRED YEARS FROM NOW? IT WILL BE ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL
NOW? IT WILL BE ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL NOT TO BE IN OUR CURRENT
IT WILL BE ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL NOT TO BE IN OUR CURRENT BUILDING, AND THAT WILL BE 50
NOT TO BE IN OUR CURRENT BUILDING, AND THAT WILL BE 50 YEARS FROM NOW, 20 YEARS.
BUILDING, AND THAT WILL BE 50 YEARS FROM NOW, 20 YEARS. >> ARE YOU SETTING YOURSELF UP
YEARS FROM NOW, 20 YEARS. >> ARE YOU SETTING YOURSELF UP FOR A FAILURE?
>> ARE YOU SETTING YOURSELF UP FOR A FAILURE? YOU GOT TO WORK WITH THE
FOR A FAILURE? YOU GOT TO WORK WITH THE LEGISLATURE.
YOU GOT TO WORK WITH THE LEGISLATURE. YOU GOT TO WORK WITH THE
LEGISLATURE. YOU GOT TO WORK WITH THE FACULTY, STAFF, EVERYONE IS
YOU GOT TO WORK WITH THE FACULTY, STAFF, EVERYONE IS SEEKING MONEY.
FACULTY, STAFF, EVERYONE IS SEEKING MONEY. VIRTUALLY STATE OF ILLINOIS IS
SEEKING MONEY. VIRTUALLY STATE OF ILLINOIS IS BANKRUPT.
VIRTUALLY STATE OF ILLINOIS IS BANKRUPT. YOU ARE TRYING TO REACH FOR THE
BANKRUPT. YOU ARE TRYING TO REACH FOR THE STARS.
YOU ARE TRYING TO REACH FOR THE STARS. >> I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO
STARS. >> I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO REACH LOWER. BUT THAT SAID, I
>> I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO REACH LOWER. BUT THAT SAID, I AM PROBABLY JUST NOISE, I MAYBE
REACH LOWER. BUT THAT SAID, I AM PROBABLY JUST NOISE, I MAYBE THE THE EARLY NOISE.
AM PROBABLY JUST NOISE, I MAYBE THE THE EARLY NOISE. IT MAY BE NOT A GOAL THAT I
THE THE EARLY NOISE. IT MAY BE NOT A GOAL THAT I ULTIMATELY GET TO PURSUE BECAUSE
IT MAY BE NOT A GOAL THAT I ULTIMATELY GET TO PURSUE BECAUSE IT ISN'T THE TIME TO BE
ULTIMATELY GET TO PURSUE BECAUSE IT ISN'T THE TIME TO BE INVESTING IN CAPITAL PROJECTS
IT ISN'T THE TIME TO BE INVESTING IN CAPITAL PROJECTS BECAUSE WE CAN'T RAISE THE MONEY
INVESTING IN CAPITAL PROJECTS BECAUSE WE CAN'T RAISE THE MONEY FOR IT AT THIS POINT.
BECAUSE WE CAN'T RAISE THE MONEY FOR IT AT THIS POINT. BUT THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE IT MEANS
FOR IT AT THIS POINT. BUT THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE IT MEANS MY VOICE WILL BE HEARD 15 YEARS
BUT THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE IT MEANS MY VOICE WILL BE HEARD 15 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN ONE OF MY
MY VOICE WILL BE HEARD 15 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN ONE OF MY PREDECESSORS MAKES THE SAME
FROM NOW WHEN ONE OF MY PREDECESSORS MAKES THE SAME ARGUMENT.
PREDECESSORS MAKES THE SAME ARGUMENT. PEOPLE WILL SAY, WE HAVE BEEN
ARGUMENT. PEOPLE WILL SAY, WE HAVE BEEN HEARING ABOUT THIS FOR AWHILE,
PEOPLE WILL SAY, WE HAVE BEEN HEARING ABOUT THIS FOR AWHILE, IT HAS GOT TO BE TRUE BECAUSE WE
HEARING ABOUT THIS FOR AWHILE, IT HAS GOT TO BE TRUE BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN HEARING ABOUT IT FOR
IT HAS GOT TO BE TRUE BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN HEARING ABOUT IT FOR AWHILE.
HAVE BEEN HEARING ABOUT IT FOR AWHILE. YOU KNOW, THIS, ED, EVERY TRIAL
AWHILE. YOU KNOW, THIS, ED, EVERY TRIAL LAWYER, YOU HAVE TO TELL A JURY
YOU KNOW, THIS, ED, EVERY TRIAL LAWYER, YOU HAVE TO TELL A JURY SOMETHING SELF EP TIMES BECAUSE
LAWYER, YOU HAVE TO TELL A JURY SOMETHING SELF EP TIMES BECAUSE BY THE SEVEN TIMES THEY ARE
SOMETHING SELF EP TIMES BECAUSE BY THE SEVEN TIMES THEY ARE SAYING I HEARD THAT BEFORE, IT
BY THE SEVEN TIMES THEY ARE SAYING I HEARD THAT BEFORE, IT MUST BE TRUE.
SAYING I HEARD THAT BEFORE, IT MUST BE TRUE. I MAY BE SAYING IT THE FIRST
MUST BE TRUE. I MAY BE SAYING IT THE FIRST TIME.
I MAY BE SAYING IT THE FIRST TIME. BUT DOWN THE ROAD, THERE WILL BE
TIME. BUT DOWN THE ROAD, THERE WILL BE A DEAN SAYING IT THE SEVENTH
BUT DOWN THE ROAD, THERE WILL BE A DEAN SAYING IT THE SEVENTH TIME.
A DEAN SAYING IT THE SEVENTH TIME. MY VOICE WILL HAVE MATTERED IN
TIME. MY VOICE WILL HAVE MATTERED IN THE CRESCHENDO IN THE FACT THAT
MY VOICE WILL HAVE MATTERED IN THE CRESCHENDO IN THE FACT THAT THAT PREDECESSOR BRINGS TO
THE CRESCHENDO IN THE FACT THAT THAT PREDECESSOR BRINGS TO FRUITION.
THAT PREDECESSOR BRINGS TO FRUITION. >> ANY REGRETS?
FRUITION. >> ANY REGRETS? >> ABOUT?
>> ANY REGRETS? >> ABOUT? >> ANYTHING.
>> ABOUT? >> ANYTHING. >> ABOUT LIFE?
>> ANYTHING. >> ABOUT LIFE? >> WHATEVER YOU CARE TO RESPOND
>> ABOUT LIFE? >> WHATEVER YOU CARE TO RESPOND TO.
>> WHATEVER YOU CARE TO RESPOND TO. >> NONE AT ALL.
TO. >> NONE AT ALL. >> IT HAS BEEN A PRIVILEGE.
>> NONE AT ALL. >> IT HAS BEEN A PRIVILEGE. >> MY PLEASURE.
>> IT HAS BEEN A PRIVILEGE. >> MY PLEASURE. >> THANK YOU.
>> MY PLEASURE. >> THANK YOU. >>