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welcome the what the *** everybody i'm side a role today we're talking about in
the throne season three episode to titled dark wings dark words but i'm not
going to talking about it alone
we're joined by two
of very excellent colleagues of mine
anika sparing how's it going
k pretty good i can't wait to talk about the game that there are no we've been
only talking about the last half an hour wind this up
embroidered brotherhood is here as well
hi everyone king is playing the role of both jay keyworth and then make with
spaces that big a
isn't a filibuster
no crack-addicted
anyway i so obviously um... the episode now it's not a premier anymore so we
were the more crowded what's going on but we do have some new characters to
talk about is anything u_n_ jumping with first something you're really good
bottom up
i'd just can't wait to talk about the scene with lady marjorie and joffrey
when they're playing with the bone marrow
i know we'll get into that in a little more detail but in that scene we learned
the joffrey hates gay people awaits
i think that there are some parallels with american politics they're and we'll
get into that a little bit about right
okay right
we had no i don't know what i'm talking with the republics of the time that we
can do that now we can't have an economy leading marjorie dot so the importance
of soap
but is a lot we talk about the new characters for citizens we stood up for
sale
are five judge in reading your rejoin brand started his old coterie of
followers in the north
uh... i've found even as a reader of the books that they didn't have nearly
enough baxter explanation of what they were doing there
did you guys phyllis and yet i have no idea who he is and i'm just waiting for
him to elect fall in love with a good singing
blacktown
and it'll be love actually all over dot
yeah yeah i i felt the same way every once in awhile when you're watching him
if and if you haven't read the books
you could like at this moment of
what the *** liquid i miss understands and this is
first the supposed to be convincing and i've just come to accept the fact that
it's supposed to be confusing you know i'll come together later in the season
yet
well what's so interesting i was telling them that i want my roomates was
entirely confused all watching it
and they're doing as much as they can in the show but understand that
like those two characters on them as a spoiler they've already been around for
one book at this point they decided to wait until now the show them
i'm but also that
people are obviously confused about so many characters visa came out i don't
know i think there's so many more characters in the book is the opposite
problem of the hobby
uh... hobbits like here is now hold
eight minutes seen about something that you mentioned it didn't even go in there
and this is just like no i don't know and what i need is supplemental
materials that you general it's a kind of tell me exactly you know
well actually bulletins that and his lights strange
weapons system i think it's interesting though that you can just make some a
little bit grabbing him a particular haircut like that it is totally british
anyways unless ross but he looks totally british
found a way that so does the characters that like sort of appearing trains
release georgian did and he's protected by his sister avonex interesting
character that we were introduced to was we deal that uh... the queen of thorns
blair i'd like to ask you although i don't trust her
when i'd think that there's something shady going on and i think she's asking
some slack
too many questions that she offered a nun and cakes
and that is you know that's true you can't go wrong with lemon cake have
bases into something shady she seems like a very smart one man and very
manipulative and calculating insulin people they're very beautiful remains a
very appealing in dry u_n_ naked stickier
next that's why i like that perhaps that the ruins of rose on there
and in recent times that
essentially there are you working you just see happening i think that um...
that did what's really the mom
we mom
queen mother of the
socit ethnic
started friday due in august when my lifeless cssc tonight about that and she
knows images parallels vessel *** up because choppers mom and his wife to be
on the same yeah that's not true which is a probably why akeystar didn't have a
little bit of our time for demands were all afraid of as men
well i don't know of a delay simpson linda many of the other successful
female characters in this world she's relying on our witness
but what's interesting about her i think the distinguishes her from from
sourcesafe
is that she very much is fine doing a behind the scenes
but says he's also kind of clever but she considers herself smarter than she
is such a thing she got smart irian
and she also wants to rules she's not happy just being married to the roller
for instance
but before we don't get a character since i a she was involved or that the
pivotal scenes of this up as a lot of talk about the her singing songs of
uh... perceive it's not so so um...
are you talking about when they're having a lemon cake and i think ok also
that let me take at this hour seen it made me uncomfortable because the fact
that sounds as been very very good
acts ad
keeping her feelings and emotions a secret
and as i said in the last review
the worst thing you can do in this show is to express your emotions or tech
expressed
a tiny little moment of weakness and in that scene sunset
expressed a moment of weakness she called joffrey are monsters the thing is
like there's no that i thought about this but there's no reason that
to keep your queen a caller amounted to just say marjorie from now on paper that
appear to have her back
pid an an was
is something that she would probably figured out anyway there are many
citizens but called on appears on them but it was a lot seventy one thousand
miles there but not everyone knows the fact that
after be heading at ten start
i keep
that's right next to us a check the entire these are the best
pap
out there
depicted alejandro guys
out to be getting him remember he put uh... joffrey put his head ana sierra
whatever is george bush is head was right next to remember that whole
controversy that same day remember that
and pretty made some cellmark act
net starts
at the appeal of the year
they also believe that i had never known a detective says if they'd like the
other details that
if lady marjorie wants to throw sence underboss now all the science not just
something generic like i have exam on staff is here some details his wish to
share with me is it true one might not know about the fact that
she says that the high-end their reaction
they don't really seem to care of all you know that's what's so cool that that
is a recognition of the reaction time
and that's a lot of the indian gaming fans and magazine every inning the whole
thing if they play someone you don't you don't know whether that people are with
you again soon and so the moment when actually chose she's just right
the only other thing i was about that's in particular is that they see no dialed
back the sex position from the first two uh...
uh... seasons
of you know the though for having sex with someone talk to apply
uh... but i like that in that they would you stock of sunset looking all like
can i trust these people
initial margins cleavage
and then back to censor and the markers cleavage right petrosa songs
i didn't know dash is ending his life and i don't think it's like the
additional reinvent larissa yan and sally notice when there's no cleavage
and let that happen to be some mexican food knowing that
data what other care to those injuries although only briefly let's check was
here because of what is the this stressed his ability to suspend
disbelief but morale
uh... causing the war
the guy at the white light is looking at the very passing illegal weird star trek
place 'cause war dissembling war from the board put together
that's certainly put on trial for cat
and so he could obviously scheme change and that's one of the most explicit uses
a magic that we've seen in awhile an obvious objectively it's usually isn't
into that the u_s_ in the mind
might not seem a bit citizen devil little too
who magical and mystical and start to lose interest a little bit otherwise
thing about game of roses when they like paraphrasing modern medical conditions
all the time blanket uh... who
went the whole thing where and john snows way from
what's your name
johnston and i cannot tell salgado avenue queen of the north
the queen of the north
what's her name you're talking about the the mother of the the king of the north
came and i don't know the other one twenty dismantle uh... finds out so the
one from where she from across the yell at the north as they are not yet been
miserable lots of some of the lady from itself the whole paycheck and suddenly
think i was checking this month pressed repeatedly on the suggestions and
throughout the war set from the river that a second cpr
that i'm going
the other thing works like you know uh... thailand lettuces like
admired my son mixes up the ideas of lectures in his brain and i had to sit
with him for four hours abducted dyslexia that
the most frustrating thing about game of finance but i love the guide them magic
you more magic eleven insightful gathered no magic in this world out of
no where there's a cabin dragon
head has one school of acting without mentor *** archaic explanations of
modern-day medical conditions that's what's wrong with the inference and
unfortunately if they said stuff like dyslexia and uh... c_p_r_ pockets
action using anything anybody to read habitat that that's how you would do
that
justice all this like dancing around this alexia which you're supposed to be
we shall have the should be the most like obscure criticism uh... yeah i
think that you have ever been watching the show images that smack in the face
that's ridiculous
against watches are related to that there was a talk of a medical condition
this episode when kaelin starkest talking to the new queen of the north
broad to be white
and they're talking about john snow yeah has a very long monologue about it
uh... high-rise apartment i would think that i'd love that scene and especially
because i always stop him and start is a very like honest
and kind of woman and that was like a moment uh... you-know-what i really
really
but like it later
extra cost
i'll do you want to take care of the basket johnson for those of you who want
no twin specifically talk about
she basically talks about how jot you know i've sludge on snow was brought to
her by her husband ned stark antennas
cards outside everything anyway and and you know it was his *** child and
then she was forced to take care of a motherless child and he will and she
wanted it so she waste like death upon him and then he got the pox ishak or
might not be as the pox na muna prayed all the gods that heat gets better
and he does get better and and her promise was that if he does get better
she will be a mother to him but she couldn't keep her promised him and now
some things that everything that's happening all the negative things you
know aria missing sons are being held captive by the land is theirs
all of that is basically bad karma for what she did yeah what i like about that
scene uh... aside the fact that you will like to see all that much because i find
it becomes a boring character was to get on the better things like theirs
but did characterize them but the problem well i'd like to buy what it
showed about her is that
it's not just the enemies of the sort of bad people who are sort of a rational
like
she was wrong it's not bad they are not out of state establishes holiness by
exactly if someone is just like stay warm
females tell the truth and stay warm that's like the the starts
basically instincts are very influential winter in the north they seem to have a
practical approaches to like dealing with problems missus fantastically
superstitious yeah
many dishes
kind of coming undone
yeses and she's furiously making like a dream catcher for dead children
basically
uh... so another character we're reintroduced to that i don't believe in
the first looks at the end great joy
we haven't had a rough time ackman
film ending with a concrete appeal in their original not having a bad day
and that is going to happen
young readers on her way worse larry i definitely want you to please cards
right
now no decided
well uh... again let me let this scene that is that there's like obviously
barbaric cruelty and violence in this world i've concluded killed all the time
that you just a cadaver under someone's email all that stands out and around the
world also uh... that was pretty exciting definitely uh... okay so but
the decision i know you wanted to talk about was the cross posting yeah set the
stage for us
so uh... joffrey calls lady marjorie into his room as he's messing around
this crossbow
and he says im going hunting
is there anything you need before i leave it on my quote that's a very very
kind of joffrey right i think the but of course that's not really what he wants
to do is say she says i'm fine everything's wonderful you are the best
thing event ivy does how come you never had a baby with that well-read with red
uh... readily rent lease aren't white young jet appetite
i thought
why did you not have the baby was roundly and then she teaches like what's
wrong with you right
and basically she ends up telling him well i think he was gay right i'm
paraphrasing advantages that the generator believe the c_i_a_ yet he says
that
he calls the act
and interested in *** the sewing and she says yes she said that and then
uh... jaffrey basically says that he uh...
calls amended
generous and then
indicates that he has like a lot of hatred for gay people
which makes me think that he's projecting he's probably games so that
was listed
with the death penalty for gay people he wants the death penalty for the people
and remember one is all d
if you all ours
he didn't want to say because i know that's the thing is i'm trying to sort
through whether he's a homosexual and i can't tell if he's just a homosexual or
a state essay test
on both part of the world that you know we've been wondering cuz
yet but without a from indus it
this is like set itself repression
presents in ways that are yes even show people what yes with
stanley
palace fallacy valine
from about does it take that day with a bed pros the antigen allen related
intake is on the senator with it
i wish there was a *** i think about taxing the case i think that he's
repressing any type of *** desire he wants which is like
because why is she still randomly crow yes he has a horrible mother
who was like serena and father to dot blotting as there are other air bases
since the start of ***
he is the product of *** but he's just so unbelievably cruel when he's had
like everything given to him on a silver platter you know hoping to have this
whole
there's that one scene where they were saying he had an assignment by
inbreeding we've had we in print
the possible fate of the target means words like every time you had a targeted
chavan they flipped a coin and it could end up crazy and they think that this is
what happened yet by inbreeding we have to really nice kids
and then this
*** monster and unfortunate on israel does everything yeah just a
moment and speaking of which
by that this new thinking
visit secure
now in a new design the panel
notices whole set that up
marijuana and the help me
you're supposed to lightly caressed it right here is an aggressive at that
hang on let me put tickets if we can then we've got to three holes
of read on my father never let me punch holes
show it to me
um... all my goodness
but
so and i don't even if i think that was the probably the bid best seen of the
satellite today i think the reason is that marjorie shows
clever and quick thinking she is a chain reading and instantly played into that
role
and that she had him into a body and that she was willing to go along with
the violence and everything
and what i what i like about is if you really remember seeing the first seems
offering that same room
answer c just could not communicate with them yes
and you see them getting distance apart all marjorie strike closer ali-han add
other that was that was pretty cool
yes cheap that's the reason why i was so uncomfortable with the scene with sasa
and the fact that she disclosed way too much information to lady marjorie
because i'd know lady marjorie is getting use that information again sasa
at some point
margarine wants to be queen and she will stop at nothing to get their anything
like it
thought that the line where joffrey is like
would you kyun something who fishes like and yes would you like to see me someone
walking into something i i've got a lot of weird curvy stuff in my life
and never have been around here come watch me feel some of her
but that's it with the new year to year ctr question is he is the day here is
the status because either one of those could be explained by that last quote
there goes that brought to you
it's amazing how tonight i right
think there's a bunch of weirdness going on in this guide that just he's not
being
on this with himself about something union and uh... i hope it is
it turns into one huge extreme explosion of of repression and nextsmallthings but
i i think with with uh... to kato queen i think it's just inside the whole thing
it's like it's an all out free market place for people who want to you know
gain power and she's just the best
businessperson had a printout
yes she answers pretty smart us so the one other big i mean there is our stock
is going to look you up with the other big story line the sort of is developed
to some extent although not fast enough for a for executive producer rina
is uh... brand continues to take up pretty well esther across the river
lands basically uh... they have the sword fight the big action scene
of the episode was gusting about possible
that how it how it develops from beginning to end when it first starts
out
uh... jamie lancer who decides continued inelastic that's an easy pickings slayer
have so the case layer thinks he's totally got this figured out
and then uh...
large beast woman start writing and at the beginning she seems to be a little
scared of how is gonna fight and then by the end she has an all figured out that
she's being the share candidacies punching in pune
and then the issue capitalist mcneil again the first major sources of flakes
of dried it's unfair
yet to be fair his hands are better so he doesn't have a perfect freedom of
movement everything that he is considered
one of the best swords midwest rose that's pretty awesome for her
uh... so you have the batch of element of that we did try to escape everything
when they had sort of been getting closer over the last few up a sense
but what is most interesting i think about that time that scene
is that you had the farmer come back at the end of it
as she had been presented with uh... the possibility that maybe should kill this
guy because he might betray you
and so we see once again that doing the honorable thing ended up poorly for them
because they are captured don't do the honorable thing trust no one don't share
motion and kill people when you have the opportunity am that's that's the only
way you win and you have to be extremely smart marjorie tearing
those are smart characters and i think that goes into characters and i could be
absolutely wrong about this
for those of the characters are probably in the same with us for several seasons
an opulent if you're the one episode where there's this theme of power
which is the their three differently we're talking about one hour from
knowledge is power safety rian
madmen
power is power knew there was some analysis on my power in the end i think
we see this all swirling dragons magic is power
and so that it does it that's what everyone's fighting with the smart
people who seem to be doing well the people with the biggest army
who seem to do a play until magic in these random things come around and we
we take it from
but i do see on the spot there swirling
there's so many irons in the fire in so many so many fronts that have been
opened up then uh... will see people kind of assert their power and take the
throne and then out of nowhere they there no match for dragon i hope the
confidence of the little one itis final thing that i would say about the show
that i'd
didn't like is the fact that there was no juniors in this lifetime sinuses yeah
i think that demerist's it should be requirement that she is in every single
right-handed because dragons take so long it's over to bundy
camera to singapore
i don't know if it's not ok doesn't care about the dragons i just have a real and
let me tell you the in the previous it looked like she was gonna buy more
slates afrin that's shanyrak
so at from ben kingsley
does that in their lives whether they know that
uh... but yeah so at least we know she'll be in the next episode that i
love truly cgs anymore for any could be its own show
if they want to be at the hands of the standoff with like terry engineers and
buddy cop sort of thing yourself but the fact that they would have
to thailand clark who plays connie c is probably one of the most beautiful woman
i've ever seen in my entire life is good
to complain
sheepish processes attracted to but i feel like a million clark is like
yeah i think is a mess of other stuff so that in our lives and we haven't talked
about um... aria
yelling at him and
i thought it was a bit weak
yeah things i was the most
boring part except i'm very curious to see what uh... what what are they call
other men the brotherhood of the banners brotherhood without of without matters
as the doctors without borders but would win more swords
anything
yeah yet
i can't wait to see what happens at those guys because
mike got
feeling is that they're not bad but i could be wrong you know they seem like
good guys and i like that they don't uh...
hippies
they seem a little bit bs yet would you find out in the mary yet that colleges
and robin had water in the villages they met a guy i met her and i have jovial
lady in the past of john in the surgeon sizing up
all those other character by the way that that was introduced or samir was
the guy with the sword very different than expected he would look
under the home come back
season and the picture he had a couple lines right
there is a new season it's also important happen next william when we
find out what the hell is going to do with this information 'cause it seems
like
he he was partial to wear certain start to sunset
by we're not sure now that he's kind of uh... up against the wall cus was
brought in with a bag over his head what he's going to do to barter for his life
inadequate
and that
again all citizens and also they know that
there this is the this is a blacksmith
from kings landing that she's traveling with with black hair and this guy
was being searched for probably by dog at the time
and when they were eliminating all backgrounds
yes i have a job here
second many of the world for euro corrugated huge correctly
and gordon kahn minority compound but yet so uh... tis they may be helpful
potentially get injured film
okay so i will be as the hoping that last thing we have uh... *** accepted
obviously the nurse i wanna seating areas and i wanna learn more about the
brotherhood with no banners uh... because i'm very curious to see if i get
a good guys in about the guys and also
more lady marjorie even though i don't like her any scene with her so far has
been very telling me yeah
cedras is like a heart attack on the other reason might like i want more
is that the jury denture the rainforests
and i want to see uh... i'll weird sex scene lipstick you know quinone joffrey
about
adkins although she did mention that she kind of doesn't know
compressed last season on the disney's the sizes of in a motel
yes he says that is if she sort of throwing away the bios she might be
trying to have their game and i don't i just want to be clear
in whatever party i needed to have to do that and whatever needs to diana
yeah i want to see more marjorie i've she is the probably the best that
they've been diverging from the books
but because she is not very much in the books all that much which is not what
have you character i think that they've done the best when they've been
expanding her role
uh... i'd also want to see more of the saddest man in the seventeen guns that
would be uh... semel
uh... up in the north just charge it also said that you just falls down the
divers although i think the impact for the rugged there
articulate a contract process
bailey so i'm hoping to see less snow in the comments would you guys are looking
forward to what you thought was the best new character the best scene of this
episode what usc in future episodes in got of course comeback every week
throughout the the rest of the season will be reviewing each episode as they
come out with see next time