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SECRETS OF THE UNIVERSE OVERVIEW OF DIVINE TRUTH
QUEENSLAND AUSTRALIA 26.09.2009 SESSION 1, PART2
It's due to the distance between incarnations.
What happens is when the first half of the soul incarnates,
the desire for the next half of the soul to incarnate now multiplies
and it will usually, incarnate in the same generation.
It's very, very rare for a soul to incarnate in a different generation.
The way God's made the whole structure
is that the incarnation process is very much a part of your sexuality.
When I say impossible, I don't really mean entirely impossible
because nothing's really impossible due to emotional injuries.
The truth is on the planet today,
there are a lot of things that God didn't design to happen that do, due to emotional injuries.
For instance, God didn't create the nuclear bomb,
mankind in a state of emotional injury created the nuclear bomb.
God never intended that man should create the nuclear bomb.
If man was in a state of Love, he wouldn't have,
but he did and God's given him the Free Will to do it.
God provided the Laws for example Free Will, that allow it to happen,
but it happened because of man's Desire.
The trouble with analysing a lot of current relationships through these Truths
is that you are looking at them through the filter of the untruth that's happening on Earth today,
rather than seeing them from the Truth perspective.
What's happening on Earth today is very much the result of emotional damage and injuries
due to a lack of Love being on the planet and not due to Love.
When we're in a state of Love,
you will find that you can actually choose which soul will incarnate when you conceive.
For many people this doesn't happen right now, but you can actually do that.
In the 1st Century myself and my soulmate made love
and chose together, through our intention,
- it was because of someone I met before then -
who would incarnate into this newly conceived child that we created
and that person became our daughter Sara.
So you can do that too.
WOMAN: Is it just luck that I was incarnated in Australia as opposed to Africa?
Nothing is luck.
There are a whole lot of spiritual, emotional, physical and environmental factors
that influence the Law of Attraction of your parents
that actually influence what type of soul they actually draw to them when they conceive.
It changes with each conception
due to the type of influences that are occurring at that time.
So for example, in your state you were a female child attracted to your parents.
There are a whole lot of Laws
involved in your parents attracting a female child at that particular time.
That set of Laws would be different with each new child they attracted.
Each time a couple makes love,
there's a whole separate set of emotional conditions going on for that particular event.
That creates a whole different set of attractions
and so it is not by luck that anything occurs.
It's all based on the Law of Attraction but not on your Law of Attraction.
It's based on a mixture of your personality being needed by that couple
to trigger certain emotions in that couple that they are denying.
Now unfortunately what happens is the couple has the baby
and the baby starts triggering the couple's emotions.
The couple then suppresses the child's emotions
and then they might even beat it or abuse it or whatever
to suppress their experience of the emotions that the child is triggering.
The truth is that every single child incarnated is attracted
because of the mixture of the personality of that child
being needed by the parents to work their way through their condition
or work their way through their desires and emotions
that are both harmonious and out of harmony with Love.
It's a very mathematical and exact thing.
God actually knows - and I don't know by the way -
who will incarnate to every single couple,
due to the emotional injuries, emotions, desires
and all of the Law of Attraction events that are going on for that couple.
It's a very complicated process but simple in a way,
in that you can override it by your desire.
So, once you are aware of it, you can start desiring things in a different manner
and this also applies by the way, to a lot of things that happen on Earth.
Currently a lot of the things that happen on Earth are automatic.
They are automatically happening without our awareness.
When you become aware of what's going on at your soul level
and start exercising your soul desires
because you have cleared away the emotions that prevent you from doing so,
and enable desires that allow you to do so, your desires start to build.
When those desires build, whole different set of events can occur
because you are now utilizing the Laws of the Universe in a conscious manner.
That's part of what I want to talk to you about,
utilizing those Laws in a soul based consciousness manner,
not in an intellectual way.
Many of you have been taught to do it in your mind right?
What I want to do is help you get away from that
and into the actual power of creation
which is all about the feelings and emotions, the expression of the soul.
Down to here and then Harry.
WOMAN: Recently I saw a documentary
where children were convinced that they are in a wrong body
and wanted to have a sex change. What's that about?
The majority of people who are being convinced that they need a sex change
are being heavily influenced by spirits
due to the emotional injuries that have come into the child from the parent.
It's actually the parent's unhealed emotion
that causes an attraction to a spirit of an opposite gender to the child.
The child then believes itself to be of that gender.
Almost all of these kinds of sex change things that occur
are due to spirit connection.
The problem with a lot of things that are happening on Earth today
are occurring because we are so far out of harmony with Love
that we are attracting all sorts of spirits in all sorts of conditions.
For example, let's say I am a spirit and I pass over.
I am a male but I have huge injuries my whole life about being male.
Those injuries might include being sexually abused by my mother,
or I was always told that I was effeminate,
or I was always treated with anger and abuse from other males.
So all of my life on Earth basically,
I was tormented for being who I was, an effeminate male. Then I pass.
Now, let's say, there is a parent
who has a homophobic emotion within themselves that they haven't released
and they have a female child.
So, this spirit doesn’t want to be male, wants to be a female.
there is a Law of Attraction established
between this spirit and the newly created child on Earth.
That spirit will be attracted to that child and heavily influence that child
in a certain direction with regard to sexuality and gender.
It may even convince that child
that it’s not of that particular gender that it was born into.
That child may eventually when it grows up, go through a sex change operation
because of that connection with the spirit.
So, before you do anything permanently to your body,
the rule is, find out whether you have spirits attached to you
causing you to have certain beliefs.
Try to find out underneath of that, what emotion inside of you creates that attraction.
In Love of yourself, work through that. Get out the other side of that.
If you still believe yourself to be in the wrong body,
then you may decide what you want to do with that,
but don't make decisions without being fully aware of what's going on.
It's very important to understand
that the majority of us here are being influenced by spirits daily,
hourly and even minute by minute.
Often when I am talking
you will notice that certain subjects will pop up
and half of you feel like going to sleep.
You are being influenced by your spirit friends
who don't want you to listen to that particular subject right at that moment.
Or it could be that I am boring. I want to assume it's the first one!
A lot of the time what happens is - I have seen this happening,
where asks me a question and they are fully immersed.
As I am telling them the answer, I can see them shutting down
and five minutes later they are asleep,
that same person who was fully engaged just moments before.
All the time I can see a little spirit - often they're not that little- influencing them
causing them to shut down, not wanting them to hear certain things.
Now why do spirits do that? We'll talk about that in a minute.
Oh, I said that Harry was next...
WOMAN: How does the IVF system work with this?
It's a question I have answered before actually in quite a few presentations.
With difficulty, can I say. This is why lot of IVF doesn't 'take'
is because there are a lot of things going on emotionally.
Firstly, why doesn't a couple conceive in the first place?
It's because of specific emotions in the mother and father,
that the conception is not taking place.
A lot of people then say, it's to do with the *** count,
it's to do with this and that, but no, it's not I'm sorry.
It's actually to do with specific emotions that create those effects.
Some of those effects can be a low *** count or even no ***,
or the egg not releasing
and all those sorts of things that go on due to emotional injuries.
Most of the emotional injuries are inter-gender based injuries.
So the couple not conceiving in the first place is often due to emotional injuries.
Many of you have heard of couples not conceiving.
They go through a whole IVF program,
they conceive a child and later they conceive another one naturally.
Why did that happen?
Because certain emotional injuries got released during that time.
Emotional injuries are very specific regarding what they attract each time.
So we say we want a child and we are not attracting a child.
It's because of an emotional injury inside of us that is not attracting a child,
assuming of course we are making love or having sex.
If you are not having sex and you want a child, that's a different thing.
There are different sets of attractions there.
If you don't want to have sex, obviously you need to adopt
- but I am talking about the normal relationship thing going on.
A child conceived through IVF
is still conceived through the emotional condition of the parents who long for it.
It's still governed by the same Laws and principles.
The reason why many IVF's aren't successful
is the same reason that the couple can't conceive in the first place.
What's going on might be that the woman or the man
is actually investing a lot of emotions in having a child.
If they want to have a child
for some unhealed emotional reason within themselves
many children wanting to incarnate are repelled by that emotion.
Many of you were born and had a job before you incarnated.
Your job was to love your mummy or love your daddy.
It's a terribly oppressive emotion
and it's an emotion that causes the rejection of the incarnation of children.
It's a similar kind of emotion that causes miscarriages
-there are all sorts of emotions that cause miscarriages and lack of conception.
Understand that everything that happens is because of a soul based emotional cause.
It's very powerful to understand that.
Harry was next, I think. And then up the back.
MAN: I have just about forgotten my question now.
Sorry, Harry.
MAN: I think earlier on you said when a guy and a girl get together,
they have a bunch of souls floating around, waiting to see what happens.
They are attracted by the *** desire expressed by the couple.
MAN: Is it like a queue? How do they decide?
Do they have a little flip of coin to see which soul actually gets the job?
The soul coming in doesn't decide who gets the job.
The soul coming in who will get the connection
will be the soul who has the exact personality requirements
for those two parents at that particular moment.
That's who's going to come in at that particular time.
So there is a queue of souls who match the requirements if you like,
but there'll be one who will match the requirements to the most perfect degree.
That particular soul, or half of the soul,
will be the one that will incarnate into that body.
WOMAN: AJ, I am curious about autism.
If parents have emotional damage and there's an autistic child,
if they clear that damage, does that child have a choice to be un-autistic?
Is your mic on?
WOMAN: - OK. - Can you ask the question again.
WOMAN: If parents have emotional damage and there's an autistic child,
if they clear that damage, does that child become un-autistic?
Yes.
WOMAN: Wow...
Yes, you can experiment with that if you want.
I am sure you will want to if you have an autistic child.
What happens for an autistic child
is that there are so many emotions coming to the child
that it can't determine the difference
between the emotions coming to it and its own emotions.
What it starts doing is expressing moment by moment the emotions coming to it,
rather than its own emotions.
In other words, because of its sensitivity,
it has great difficulty in determining its own self awareness.
When the parents release different emotions
that cause this barrage of emotions coming to the child
what will happen -
and it's a very sensitive child already, obviously.
You will notice actually over the last 20, 30 years - children are much more sensitive.
This is a growing fact
because as mankind's condition rises in Love generally,
then the children coming have less damage in Love
so therefore they are less suppressed.
An autistic child is a very sensitive child
which feels a barrage of emotions from it's environment
and as the parents release those emotions
the child will no longer be autistic.
There are some couples who have already started doing this
and they have people ask, "What are you doing now, what's going on?"
and they say, "Ah we're dealing with our emotions"
and they say "I can't believe you".
The children are changing rapidly
as a result of their parents' dealing with their own emotions.
If you could bring the mic down here...
WOMAN: For quite a while I have tried to ask you about Osho.
- About... - Osho.
WOMAN: - Have you ever heard about Osho? - I'm sorry..
WOMAN: He is a master from India.
Right, OK. You must understand that just because I am Jesus,
I don't know 6 billion people. Do you know 6 billion people?
No, so I don't know 6 billion people. Some of them I do know.
WOMAN: - He's very famous. - No worries.
WOMAN: Every time I have tried to ask you about him
- cos he got killed from the Americans, maybe you've heard about this.
No. But go on.
WOMAN: I have had the experience of a spirit around me who stops it.
It is quite amazing for me to watch.
I have to really make an effort to ask you.
What's the spirit around you that's stops the asking?
What are they feeling?
WOMAN: - I feel my heart is beating... - What's the feeling you have?
WOMAN: I'd like to ask you what sphere he is in but maybe you don't know.
Can I ask you what your feeling is? Can you identify that feeling?
WOMAN: I have a feeling I shouldn't ask.
Why? Why shouldn't you ask?
WOMAN: Because in that community beautiful things were happening
like meditation and self realization and therapy
but there was a lot, a lot of *** activity.
Right. Can you see why the spirit doesn't want you to ask?
Because the spirit doesn't want you to know the Truth about what was going on.
Why wouldn't he want you to know the Truth?
WOMAN: Maybe because I don't want to know.
Because the spirit was involved in the *** activity.
If I say the Truth to you and people know what was going on,
then all the people may no longer engage in the *** activity that they were doing
and then all the spirits who invested in that *** activity, where would they be?
Sexually, they would be frustrated.
Can you ask through a mic? Always through the mic.
MAN: Are you implying that there is something wrong with that *** activity?
I am not implying that there is something wrong with *** activity.
What I am implying is that there is something wrong with *** activity
that you are not consenting to and not knowing what you are consenting to.
MAN: Is that true in this case?
In this case the people involved in the *** activity
have no idea that actually the spirits are influencing them
to have sex with each other, so the spirits can actually enjoy the *** activity.
MAN: With respect, isn't that an assumption on your part?
No, it's not, but you can feel it is.
MAN: - But it's just a statement. - No, it's not. I know what's going on.
I can feel through the spirit why he doesn't want her to ask the question.
WOMAN: - I feel it very strongly. - You feel that, right?
And how does the spirit feel about you knowing this now?
WOMAN: It's feeling I know it's the Truth.
So, the spirit knows it's the Truth but how does he feel?
WOMAN: He doesn't like it, he can't stand it.
Why doesn't he like it? Why doesn't he want you to know it?
WOMAN: Because I have been involved in it.
Yes, you were one of the people who were chosen to be involved in it
through some emotional injuries.
Yes. When I answer a question by the way,
I am answering it based on what I know.
If I don't know I will actually tell you I don't know.
What's happening is, around every person;
remember there is a group of spirits.
Here is the physical dimension, here is the spirit dimension
and these spirits are all in the 1st Sphere of the spirit dimension.
You follow me?
They are all in the lower regions of the 1st Sphere of the spirit dimension,
what you would classify as 'the hells'. You would have heard of 'the hells'.
It's not a fiery tormenting place; it's not a place like Dante's Inferno.
It's not a place like that at all.
What it is, it is the place where people exist
who are yet to heal their unloving emotions.
Their condition reflects their emotions,
and the location where they live, reflects those emotions.
So there are actually terrible, terrible places in the spirit world.
Some of you maybe have seen the movie 'What Dreams May Come'.
Remember he goes to the hells to get his wife out of hell from her suicide
and he passes through many different illustrative pictures of the hell.
To be frank, there are places that look exactly as depicted in that movie.
Now these spirits are in the very low regions of this 1st Sphere
and they do not want you to change.
They do not want you to change because they are living vicariously through you,
in order to get some of their unhealed emotions satisfied.
One of the largest unhealed emotions on this planet
is the emotion involving sexuality
where we have a lot of confusion, a lot of shame.
Or we have a lot of the opposite type of emotion
where we are highly ***, we don't care who it is with or anything like that,
we are just highly *** all the time and that is another emotional injury.
You will see this happening a lot on Earth where people are attracted to spirituality
but often finish up being involved in *** activities.
Now, part of your soul progression
is going to be about healing your *** injuries.
God certainly designed you to have *** activity.
God also designed a whole group of Laws of Love surrounding it.
Whenever you break those Laws of Love, certain things will occur
and one of the things that occurs on Earth
is that in the guise of spirituality, sexuality gets expressed.
When I say 'in the guise', it's often said 'love means free love',
means loving everyone, and that means having sex with everyone.
So what we finish up doing is having sex with everyone
because we are all 'freely loving' each other.
That's not what God designed.
You don't have to trust me; you can just find it out for yourself by doing it.
See where it takes you and see if it fulfils you
and whether you feel loved at all,
and you'll soon find out that it actually isn't a loving space.
But, what's happening is these groups of spirits here in the spirit world
- lots and lots of them, all with unresolved *** issues.
There are many men, by the way in the spirit world,
who were *** predators here on Earth
and remain *** predators in the 1st Sphere of the spirit word.
What they do is they connect with women
and what is one thing women are generally attracted to? Spirituality- agreed?
Here it's a mixed audience,
but generally when you go to an audience where there are spiritual things being presented,
80% of the people are women.
So a lot of women get attracted to it
and then they are taught - often by a man by the way -
about this free love idea and free sex idea and so forth.
What's going on is that these spirits in very low condition
are using that to influence you
so that they can vicariously experience the *** act through you.
That's what they are doing.
By the way, alcoholic spirits are exactly the same.
People who are alcoholics on Earth,
who love their drink when on Earth, pass into the spirit world
and there's no drink there, so what they do?
They just connect to a person on Earth who is a drinker
and they drink and drink and drink
and this is why the person can be totally oblivious to everything going on inside of themseleves.
They don't even know where they are, what they are doing or anything.
They can't even remember last night and yet when they ask a friend-
"Yeah you were still up late drinking, still upright, plugging away."
The reason why, is that the spirit was keeping them going,
the spirit was just helping him.
Now, most spirits in the1st Sphere condition do not want you to know this
and would rather that you never found out about it.
Can you understand why?
Because they have a vested interest in you continuing to do it.
So many of us in our lives have had these experiences
where we weren't conscious of what we were doing.
Often it's with alcohol or with drugs,
but it's also with sex or other experiences
and most of the time
it's because of the heavy influence of spirits in a very, very poor state.
How do you disconnect from them?
The same way you progress by actually loving yourself,
working your way through the injuries you have about Love.
As that happens,
you work your way through the injuries you have about sex
and as that happens, the spirit says, "Oh, I can't connect with her anymore,
"I'll go and find somebody else who I can influence into doing this",
and they often do because there is a large variety of people
who have these injuries on Earth.
Now, you will find that there are many *** predators
in so called 'spiritual circles'.
The reason is because these spirits
due meditation or other practices
find it easier to connect to the person when they are doing those practises.
And because the actual soul condition of the person isn't growing
that causes a repulsion of those practises
those practises are attracted and then performed.
WOMAN: Thank you AJ. This is so profound.
Now, how is the spirit around you feeling?
He's gone, hasn't he?
He's been with you a long time and he has just gone.
The reason is because the penny is dropping with you
and you can see that and he can see
that he's not going to be able to influence you to do this anymore
and he'll find another person that he can do it with.
He wasn't interested in you in any other way
other than to help you have *** activities so he could fulfil his own desires.
WOMAN: I need to say something about that because I have been monogamous for 7 years now.
He must have been still somewhere...
Still with you.
WOMAN: ...because for quite a while, I've had no sex.
So you think that he was trying to influence you back into that?
WOMAN: My partner suffered a little bit for the last two years
but there was something within me that felt 'no'.
And you will probably find now as you work with this issue
you will probably feel like having sex again...
WOMAN: It's already started.
That's great.
...because at the soul level you already knew that something was wrong here
and that's why you withdrew from that.
Connect with yourself when you are making love,
don't get out of body,
don't do those things you were taught to do when you were doing it
and you will find that it'll be more of a real experience.
There might be emotions that you need to work your way through.
The problem is that there are lots of spiritual practices on Earth
that are designed by spirits to help you be more connected to them,
they can use you more and so you need to be careful of that.
They are influential, these sprits
and remember every influence on you is emotional.
MAN: Wouldn't it be a great idea
if someone opened up a clinic in that low level sphere
for those poor degenerative spirits?
I mean it's a great business opportunity to help those spirits out
so they don't influence people like you anymore.
Yeah, spot on Harry.
We are going to open clinics in the future for exactly that purpose,
because higher spirits are finding it very difficult to connect with these spirits
to stop them from doing what they are doing.
If a person is rampantly doing something
it's very, very hard to influence them, to stop them.
They have Free Will.
But what happens is if a person from the Earth talks about them
and exposes what they are doing
and talks about how they can do it differently
then the entire life of these spirits will change and they'll do something different.
So, what we need on Earth is a large group of mediums
who understand the complete Divine Truth about the Universe
and understand how to assist these spirits
to go from their poor condition to a new condition.
When they do that they will disconnect from the people of the Earth.
You know that the majority of our fatal diseases
are even caused by the spirit connection.
So, lots of diseases will automatically stop occurring
and so will a lot of those *** influences and so forth.
AIDS is again caused by, emotional injuries.
We'll talk about the emotional injuries behind all sorts of diseases another time.
Remember the one Truth
that all diseases -and I am going to be very specific here-
every single event that's ever happened in your life,
every single thing you did,
every single disease you contracted,
every single sickness you had,
every single bone you broke,
all happened because of an emotional cause
that created the Law of Attraction,
that then created the event.
Once you understand that,
then we understand the power of changing the condition that creates those things.
In other words addressing the causes.
On Earth today we are addicted to dealing with effects.
How popular is alcohol on Earth?
In Australia, very popular, right? Why?
Because we are addicted to dealing with the effects of stress and pressures
in a way that calms us down.
We feel that we've still got to get on with our life
and so what we do is we pick up habits along the way that helps us deal with our lives.
But the truth is we are not dealing with the underlying emotional reasons
why we do something or the emotional reasons why our life is the way it is.
When we deal with those, everything gets ironed out
and you no longer feel like doing things a certain way.
Most people are not aware that for instance coffee is an anti depressant.
Most people are not aware of that. So what happens when we have coffee?
If we are addicted to coffee and we have three or four drinks a day,
we are actually using our coffee to avoid emotions.
You'll notice it. Go off coffee for one month if you are addicted to coffee
and see where your emotions go.
Now the same applies to a lot of smoking right?
We are addicted to smoking particularly due to emotional reasons.
The truth is you go off cigarettes
and you find our how 'good' things are over the next 14 days.
You will start feeling a lot of those causal emotions
and if you allow yourself to notice them you can address them.
Understand that spirits around you are connecting to you
not from anything other than your Law of Attraction.
Your Law of Attraction is governed by this thing called soul condition.
SOUL CONDITION
Soul condition is the sum total of all your experiences
and all of your denied emotions and all of your expressed emotions,
all of your desires, your passions, your longings
and all of your emotional errors and injuries about Love,
summed together they create your soul condition.
That soul condition is like a huge magnet going out into the Universe
and it creates your life.
Your whole life is governed by this - your soul condition.
Your even being here today is governed by your soul condition.
Everything in your life is governed by this soul condition - all the attractions.
If you can understand that,
you can understand how to change your life much more rapidly
than trying hard to change your life by a day to day process
- as long as you understand what is involved in this soul condition.
Lower level spirits love you having unhealed emotions.
Many of you have experienced the time when you have got into a rage
and all of a sudden it's like it's a real violent rage
- how many of you have experienced that?
I know I have on a few occasions in this life.
In that state a spirit has just connected to that anger that you have
which actually suppresses an underlying grief.
Then it expresses its own rage via your rage.
It does feel like sometimes that you are actually out of control
and that somebody else is controlling you in that state.
The truth is that generally, whenever you feel like you are out of control,
there is someone else controlling or influencing you
and it's a spirit who is connecting to your denied emotional state.
A mic just there.
WOMAN: Could I ask you about soulmates again, please?
Yes. Are there any questions about spirit interaction first,
then we'll go back to the soulmates.
Spirit interaction questions?
Spirit interaction question?
And then we'll come back to your soulmate question.
You need to use a mic.
WOMAN: Can one establish a healthy connection with the spirits?
Yes, you can establish healthy connections with spirits.
There are many spirits that are in the higher dimensions of the spirit world
who would love to connect with you and teach you a lot of emotional Truths
and every single one of you is capable of listening to them
if you deal with certain emotional injuries.
There are literally billions of spirits in the higher spheres
who would love to connect with you
and talk to you about all sorts of matters
but you are not going to connect to them easily,
unless your condition gets near their condition
or you at least start understanding some of the moral principles and Laws
that affect that connection.
WOMAN: So it's a working process.
Yes the more we progress spiritually,
the better our connection to the spirits of the higher levels is going to be.
Now back to the soulmate question.
You have to hold it close.
WOMAN: When two people meet
and they feel they are soulmates and they connect
and then, for some reason, things go wrong with them.
Often a man becomes abusive
and the relationship becomes very difficult,
then the woman may leave but often that woman still loves that man
and they will continue to go back.
Why is it that sometimes, people can love someone who is really abusive
and they go back to the same situation time and again?
It's due to unhealed self love - always.
UNHEALED SELF LOVE
It doesn't matter whether the person is your soulmate or not.
If that person is treating you badly you would not go back
until they've actually dealt with the underlying emotional reason
why they want to.
They'd never do it again if they had done that.
Until that point, if you go back
you have still got Love of Self issues that need to be healed.
So allow them to be healed, work on the Love of Self side of things.
Unhealed Self Love is the greatest creator of most emotional pain
and most of us have that emotional pain
because of our childhood when we learnt to not love ourselves.
We had to do everything for others but not for ourselves.
What's the time by the way?
16.30?
Cos there's a lot more to cover.
Do you mind if I keep going for a bit more before you have a break?
I just want to describe to you what happens in your progression.
Imagine these are spheres.
I'll draw them tighter together, cos there's lots of them.
We're up to...6.
7 and 8 and then above 8 we go to...
I'll just draw some lines in there and then the 21st sphere up there.
Remember we transcend each sphere by growing in Love. OK?
But there are two types of Love that we can grow in.
One type is the love that you have that comes from within yourself.
Now I call that Natural Love.
I went two lines too high.
I call that Natural Love.
NATURAL LOVE
You can think of Natural Love as the Love that comes from within you
that can be developed and shown and expressed
to everything and everyone around you.
It's Love from within you that you express to your complete environment.
Now, when we grow in Natural Love,
we are building this Love that's inside of ourselves,
but there's another type of Love we can grow in and that's Divine Love.
DIVINE LOVE
Most New Age Paths will say that Divine Love is this divine spark within you.
I am saying that there is no divine spark in you,
until you ask God for that to occur.
Then there's one.
The reason why this is the case is that Divine Love is God's Love.
God has an emotion of Love too
and God's Love can be expressed and given to you.
That is not your Love being developed,
although you will develop in your Love as you receive it.
It is Love that comes expressly from God and God only
and neither I, nor any other person in this Universe can give you this Love.
Not a single person in this Universe can give God's Love via themselves to you.
God's Love can only enter your soul through one connection.
That's what I want to describe to you this connection that can enter you.
Firstly what I want to do is just to describe different types of Love
and how they are characterised.
When we are developing in Natural Love, we become very intellectual.
INTELLECTUAL
In the spirit world the spirits call themselves 'grown ups'
in the sense that they are 'grown up intellectually'.
They have super minds, super superior intellects.
On the Divine Love Path, we grow on an emotional level.
EMOTIONAL
On the Natural Love Path, we have a tendency to go into intellectual intelligence.
On the Divine Love Path we forget about intellectual intelligence
and what we do is we go for emotional intelligence.
Now many of you might already know that when you are emotionally intelligent,
you are automatically intellectually intelligent.
That is something that happens on the Divine Love Path
- you automatically become more intelligent as you grow,
because the emotions that impact upon intelligence get released.
There are literally emotions that impact upon every part of your life,
including how rapidly you respond to intellectual stimuli
and as you release your emotions that process becomes more and more rapid.
On the Natural Love Path we are growing in Natural Love.
Almost every religion on this planet is growing in Natural Love
and almost every spiritual thing that you can hear from the spirit world
is about Natural Love.
The reason is because the Divine Love spirits
all exist on higher levels than the Natural Love spirits
and so for us to hear them
we have to already be in a certain state to learn the Truth of that.
Let's have a look at some other things that are different.
On the Natural Love Path I often say I am God.
I AM GOD
That we become God.
You see this a lot in the New Age movements, 'I am God'.
On the Divine Love Path, I am God's child
I AM GOD'S CHILD
And I forever remain such.
I don't ever view myself as God.
All those things that are said in the Bible
- that I somehow view myself as God or a part of God,
the way that's interpreted nowadays, is not true.
I said I became 'At-One With God'
which is a totally different thing than saying that I am God.
Every single human soul on this planet
and every single soul that has passed over
has the same ability as me to become 'At-One With God'
and there are now literally millions of spirits
that are in the state of At-onement with God.
Many of you have heard of it as 'Christ Consciousness'.
Please understand that the words have been bandied here on Earth so much now
that some think that they are Christ conscious
but they are not emotionally there.
So they don't know what Christ consciousness is yet.
When you are emotionally there then you will understand the difference
between what's being said to you and the state of being Christ conscious.
We'll talk about Christ consciousness soon where it happens.
What other things do we notic on the Natural Love Path?
We are intellectual; we say 'I am God'.
There are thousands...
let's say millions of paths.
You know how you hear people say, 'I am on my own Path'.
That's one of the millions of Natural Love paths.
'I am in my own personal truth'.
All of those statements, are statements we would make on the Natural Love Path,
of which there are millions.
When we are on the Divine Love Path there is the One Way.
It is the way of the heart, it's the One Way.
I call it the Narrow way, the Narrow Path.
There is One Path to At-onement with God.
Everyone goes, "Ah here we go again...
"Someone claiming they are the only way."
I am sorry but it's the Truth.
I can't help the Truth all I can do is present it.
It's a beautiful way because you know it's not even mine.
Whose is it? It's God's. God created this way the One Way.
God created it; God wants to teach it to you.
You don't need me to learn it. You need God to learn it.
That's how in fact you learn it, this One Path.
You will find that after you get on the Divine Love Path
and you are really on it and you start receiving Divine Love,
what will happen a lot,
is that you start to recognize another person who has received it.
Because it brings the people together who are all on the same path,
even though they have a lot of different backgrounds.
So the truth is, you can be a Catholic and receive Divine Love;
you can be a Muslim and receive Divine Love,
you can be a New Age Spiritualist and receive Divine Love
but you are going to have to give up your false beliefs about Love to do it.
That's the only way, the One Way.
In the 8th sphere and above in the spirit world,
millions of different types of religions are represented,
but they no longer have any of those religious formats.
However in the 6th Sphere in the spirit world,
there are still thousands of religions.
There are many Catholics who have modified their Catholic beliefs
to bring it more in harmony with Natural Love
and they are now still Catholics in the 6th Sphere.
There are many Muslims who have modified all of their beliefs
in harmony with Natural Love and in the 6th Sphere.
Even the leader of the Muslim religion, who prophet it,
Mohammed, is himself in the 6th Sphere.
There are many Buddhists who have followed the Natural Love Path to Buddhism
and they are now in the 6th Sphere
and in fact Buddha himself is in the 6th Sphere.
But then there are these other people, like Gandhi
who found the Divine Love Path and he was a Hindu.
Now he is not a Hindu anymore
because the beliefs of the Hindu system
do not coincide with what he has learned about God's Love.
He is in the 17th sphere.
Now the reason why these things occur
is because many of the people who teach certain things on Earth
become addicted to those teachings
and they don't want to feel their connection with God.
What they do is, they feel what they imagine to be God.
To be frank, we can fool ourselves into all sorts of states
including- I can fool myself into being Jesus.
You can fool yourself into all sorts of states too.
You are going to have to be very, very honest and open and frank,
really honest with yourself if you want to connect to God though,
because with God you can only maintain a connection as long as you are in Truth.
I am not talking about your truth or my truth.
With God you can only maintain a connection with God
when you are in God's Truth
and that's a big difference to being in my truth or in your truth.
So, on the Divine Love Path what happens is
we can progress above the 6th Sphere
but on the Natural Love Path we cannot.
There are literally billions of spirits on the Natural Love Path
who have perfected their Natural Love
- the love that they express from within themselves.
They have perfected that love to the point of the 6th Sphere.
They have been there for thousands of years
and they are having a wide variety of experiences
and the dimensional space of the 6th Sphere
is expanding laterally because of those experiences.
They are creating planets, they are creating solar systems,
they are doing all sorts of powerful things that you can't imagine perhaps right now,
but they are having a lateral experience of the Universe.
They believe themselves to be growing
but they are stagnant in their own progression at the soul level.
On the Divine Love Path you progress beyond the 6th Sphere
and you enter a sphere of transition which is called the 7th Sphere.
The 7th Sphere is the Sphere of transition
between the human soul and the Divine Soul.
When you make the transition between the 2 souls,
you enter this experience which is called the New Birth.
If you are a Christian you would have heard of it as being 'born again'.
In the 1st Century I said,
"You must be born again to enter the Kingdom of God".
The Kingdom of God is above the 8th sphere.
I call this area 6th Sphere and below, the Kingdom of Man
and I call this area above the 8th sphere, the Kingdom of God.
It's the Kingdom of God because the only people that can be there
are the people who have received Divine Love
to the point where their souls have physically transformed into a new creature
and they experience this New Birth.
When you experience this New Birth, a whole lot of new capabilities come to you,
that you didn't have before in your own soul.
Your soul grows and expands into a new condition, into a new being.
Question up the back there. If you could keep you hand up..
WOMAN: AJ, I was just wondering
what the benefit of spiritual hospitals are, over in South America.
I don't know if you have heard of them.
And where their spirits are or what is happening in that regards.
Can we stay on topic for the moment? It's not really related.
I can answer the question but I'd like to try and stay on this topic if we can.
MAN: Do we all at some stage down the track end up in New Birth?
No. The New Birth has to come from a decision inside of yourself
to choose to receive God's Love into your soul.
It's not an intellectual choice either.
It has to be an emotional choice, a longing for God's Love from within.
When I refer to prayer, that's what I am talking about.
Prayer is just a longing for God's Love to enter your soul.
There are only three things you will need on this Path, three things only.
You don't need me; you don't need anybody else on this Path.
You only need three things.
The first thing is a longing for God's Love to enter you.
And I mean a longing, not just, "I think I'd love to have God's Love to enter me."
I mean a longing - a real deep fervent desire within you. You need that.
You also need a longing for God's Truth to enter you.
So that's the second thing you will need - a longing for God's Truth.
In other words I have to give up all of my errors emotionally.
So if I have belief about Love that Love sacrifices itself,
I need to give up that emotion.
If I have a belief about Love that Love doesn't engage in sex,
I have to give up that emotion.
If I have belief about Love
that Love means always doing what the other person wants,
I need to give up emotion.
If I have a belief about Love that Love means I will always get what I want,
I have to give up that emotion.
I could list hundreds and thousands emotions that we have to give up on that Path.
So, I have to have a longing for God's Truth to enter me emotionally
- not intellectually, emotionally.
When God's Truth enters me emotionally,
I would automatically do what is loving.
I won't have to try and think about what is loving in each situation,
there will be no confusion.
In this state we don't even have to think,
we know what Love would do
and we automatically feel drawn into doing it.
Then the third thing that we need
is the most neglected quality here on the planet
and that's the quality of Humility.
I want to define Humility.
Humility is the passionate desire to experience fully all of your own emotions
without blame, judgment or condemnation of others.
Those are the three things that we will need.
A longing for God's Love, a longing for God's Truth and Humility.
When you have those things,
you will be guaranteed progress on the Divine Love Path.
I say three things - not very much to remember.
You try putting it into practice in your day to day life
and you'll find actually
- wow, at the very first moment I said some untruths,
I am straight out of harmony with Truth.
You try in the break when somebody takes that cake that you wanted.
If you were in Truth you would say "I wanted that cake", wouldn't you, if you felt that.
Then you would say, "All right what's my emotion?"
"It's missing out, I feel like I am missing out on that cake."
Right at that moment if you are in Truth,
you will feel that emotion in a child-like way
because that's another thing about these two Paths.
On the Natural Love Path you are adult-like.
ADULT-LIKE
On this Divine Love Path ou are child-like.
CHILD-LIKE
So you start weeping "I missed out on that cake!" and away you go.
If that's how you felt in that moment, you would do that if you are in that state.
Now what's going to happen on in this planet
is that some people and then eventually quite a few people
are going to get in this state
and you will see it in action in your day to day life.
You will be amazed about how you can live your life that way
in the world we are currently living in, a very, very different way.
The Truth is that when you get into that state,
you are the most powerful creator that you could ever be,
because everything is driven by desire and emotion,
everything, absolutely everything.
Once you recognize the power of that state, you will love it.
You won't give that up for anything or anyone.
Then if I came along and I said,
"No, no you know all that I said about that Divine Love stuff,
"you follow me instead and we'll go off on this tangent over here."
You will say, "What? What would I want to do that for?"
It's because you are already experiencing the state of complete connection with God.
It's not a religion,
it's not like something where you've got to follow rules,
although you will in your heart, feel what's right and what's wrong, instantly.
In fact there are some Bible verses that refer to this state in the Old Testament.
They helped me understand it and one of them said
"The heart of stone becomes a heart of flesh".
In other words your heart, your feelings, your motivations, your emotions
get transformed into this new state of being.
You are sensitive emotionally
and everything becomes an emotional experience, everything.
You will not be able to do anything that breaks your own integrity.
Now you think about that.
How many of us are doing a job at the moment that we don't want to do
because we want to earn money?
Well when you get into this state of At-Onement with God
which is this state in the 8th sphere...
AT-ONEMENT
..you will never be able to do that.
To be frank, by the time you probably get to the 3rd or the 4th sphere of your progression,
you will not be able to do it.
That's because you can't stay in something that's untruthful for you anymore, you just can't.
It hurts so much that you just can't do it so you don't.
Then you go down into your fears,
"Now I've got no money coming in. What do I do now?"
That's an emotion and so you deal with that emotion.
How do you deal with that emotion?
"Nobody cares for me anymore" and away I go, crying.
I feel that emotion and release it completely.
You know when I come out of that I'll say, "What am I thinking?"
"I have got a connection with God here.
"God is the Creator of the Universe,
"how can I believe that I am not going to be cared for?"
You'll only feel that when emotions such as lack of abundance
are going to be released from you.
So, on this Divine Love Path,
what happens is that you become real, real;
everything becomes real; everything is real, emotionally real.
You don't intellectualize and you don't reframe everything.
For example a guy punches me on the nose.
You say, "Oh yeah I know he has got some problems."
What? You've got some problems.
What do you think your Law of Attraction is to attract that?
You need to have a look at that. What's going on?
Was it because you were in Truth or was it because you were in error?
If it was in Truth, fine,
but if it was in error what did you do in error to attract that?
What was the emotion?
"Ah, it was an emotion of fear in me, a fear that my body might die."
Whatever the emotion is I release that emotion
and when I release that, those kinds of events happen far less often.
What happens is as I progress more and more and more on the Path,
I start creating in very, very powerful ways;
far more powerful than the intellectual way, to try, try, try, try.
How many of us are sick of trying?
I am sick of trying. I am sick of trying - I don't know about you.
I spent a lot of this life doing the 'trying'.
The whole reason why I came back was to experience that in this life.
It's very different from the 1st Century life I had
because in my whole life in the 1st Century I didn't have to try.
When I got up to the spirit world everyone else was coming to me
and they were saying, "Do you know that feeling about trying to do..."
It was like, "No, I am sorry you will have to talk to Mary about it,
"I have no idea about that one."
I felt totally clueless because people were coming to me for help
and I didn't even know the answers to the majority of their questions
because I hadn't personally experienced them.
So I decided, with Mary -
because the Soul Union State is the only way you can come back to Earth
- that we return.
One of the reasons was
so I could at least get some knowledge of what it feels like to try and try and try.
It feels terrible. I don't know about you but I hate it
and I don't ever want to do it again, that's how I feel.
So when you are on this path that's where you get to,
the place where you will never have to do it again.
Every thing you desire in this state is harmonious with Love
so therefore it's automatically created.
In this state, your current state,
you have got to think about it before you create it.
It sounds lovely but it's not very useful to you.
I would like to talk more about these two things.
The Natural Love Path is self reliant.
SELF RELIANT
You think about it.
On this Earth have we been taught and have now come to believe,
that the only person who is going to do something for me is me.
So we become so self reliant, right?
We base our entire lives around it.
I have got to create it; I have got to create it all the time.
On the Divine Love Path, we are God reliant.
GOD RELIANT
I trust that if I deal with my emotions,
if I deal with my Laws of Attraction,
and deal with the emotions that are causing the attraction,
if I work on my soul condition, if I grow in Love,
everything I want that I have ever dreamed of,
is going to be attracted to me.
You know what, when you get into that space,
you won't even worry about anything in your life.
You won't plan anything because you don't need to.
The moment you want to have a chat with a group of people
they will be there for you - automatically.
I know it sounds strange but it happens exactly like that.
Everything you want to create,
everything you desire that is harmonious with Love, will happen.
Sometimes there can be a bit of a time lapse
between you having the desire and it happening,
but it will happen,
because everything that happens
happens because of the desires that you fully express.
So on this Divine Love Path, I am emotionally connected,
God reliant, child-like, having fun, enjoying myself
not thinking about or worrying about where my next penny is going to come from
or where my next meal is going to come from.
Does a child worry about those things?
No. They know that the meal is going to get put on the table.
So that's how we will be, exactly like that.
You will get to this point.
If you look at such a person
when you are coming from an intellectual perspective,
you will say "How do they live their life, what are they going to do tomorrow?"
They say, "I don't know."
Who knows what will happen to me tomorrow, all sorts of things could happen.
I may have the desire to make love to my lovely lady all day.
Who knows, something might come up...
Sorry about that...
Something might happen that actually causes me to change that.
My desires change every moment,
depending on what emotions pass through me
and who knows what they will create, so why would I be investing in that?
I won't be investing in that on this Path.
On the, Natural Love Path, I make lots of detailed plans.
I was like that.
Every night I wrote down a list of the things that I would do the next day.
How many of you have done that? Write down a list?
So, I'm not alone.
We write down a list and what do we do with it?
Well what I did was
I also wrote down all those things that could have gone wrong with that list,
fair dinkum, that's what I did. I was so afraid of what would go wrong
that I wrote down a list of all of the things that could go wrong.
I was right; when anything did go wrong it was usually on my list.
So I allowed myself to write down this list and next day
- sure enough that happened, that happened, that happened,
cross that off and cross that off yeah, that went wrong, cross off that.
My life was that planned, it was terrible, like it was terrible.
I was so full of fear
that my stomach hurt so much every morning when I woke up and I'd be trembling.
Who has had that emotion of feeling dread every single day of their life?
That's what I was like - every single day.
It was only by releasing the causal emotions that created my fears that all that went.
In my case, they were all to do with my 1st Century experiences.
My lovely lady would like to say something.
MARY: Would you say that a Natural Love Path is typified by trying to control our emotions
and the Divine Love Path is opening up to feeling everything?
CONTROL
FEEL
Definitely, as you know darling.
So you feel everything on that Path. That's exactly what it's like.
In this other state, I was just like a control freak
and everything had to be just so
and you know in that state most things went wrong.
That was the state I was in but in this state, now most things go right.
Everything seems to goes right, things start falling into place.
I get invited to speak at a date that I feel like going.
They've got a venue available only the exact week I wanted to go.
This is what happens when you are in this space all the time.
Many of you have been in that space at different times in your life,
but you can't create it all the time because of the emotions you still have.
We'll have a break now. What is the time?
5 o'clock? You talk too much, that's what the problem is. (JOKINGLY)
We'll have a break for 15 min, is that alright?
And then we'll come back.
There's been a question about what happens to soulmates as they progress.
I would like to address the issue
because it actually affects the teaching of reincarnation.
How many of you firmly believe in the concept of reincarnation
that you've learned from say, Buddhist or Hindu or New Age teachings
where you reincarnate over and over and over?
Quite a number of you do.
You will find the next part a bit confronting,
just a forewarning for you.
So we're here on the Earth
and we start having a longing for our soulmate.
What will happen is, as you start progressing,
you will actually start working your way through different emotional issues
that cause you to currently have soulmate blockages.
For example if you are needy for your soulmate that's a blockage.
Nobody wants to live in a needy relationship,
so, if you are needy for your soulmate that's an emotional blockage.
If you are a woman and you have the emotion inside you
that you are angry with men and you know that your soulmate is a man
- then that's a blockage towards you meeting your soulmate.
If you have an emotion inside of you
where you are a man where you feel that pretty much having sex with any woman will do
- well that's a blockage, an emotional blockage within you
that will actually stop you from being with your soulmate.
The Truth is that when you meet your soulmate
and actually work through all of your emotional injuries,
what will eventually happen is you will not desire another single person.
You won't need your parents, you won't need your children,
and you won't need anybody else except God and your soulmate.
That's what will happen.
Anyway, what happens when you are progressing?
Let's say one half of the soul starts progressing on the Divine Love Path
and by the way Soulmate Union can never occur on the Natural Love Path.
In other words if you stay on that kind of Path,
you will never experience the complete Soul Union that I am speaking to you about.
You have to go through the process of The New Birth,
you have to get into At-onement with God
and then you have to progress for another 14 Spheres
learning about Divine Love,
before you will actually get into this condition of complete Soul Union with your soulmate.
Before then it will feel pretty good,
when I say it'll feel pretty good, it will blow most of you away
just feeling it at the 3rd Sphere with your soulmate,
let alone at the At-onement condition with your soulmate.
What will happen is that if you do not progress on the Divine Love Path,
you will never experience the Soul Union state.
Now, the Soul Union state is the state where yourself and your soulmate
no longer think or see or feel yourselves to be separate people.
That's pretty challenging
because that means dealing with all emotions inside yourself about control, manipulation,
all the emotions where you want to get your own way,
all the emotions get dealt within this process of becoming at one with your soulmate.
Let's say one of the souls progresses first.
As she progresses on the Divine Love Path,
she is progressing towards God.
Sooner or later what will happen
is she will work through all the emotional blockages towards her soulmate.
Once that occurs the soulmate starts feeling this change.
It's an automatic feeling that occurs in your soulmate,
an automatic change and the change means
that the soulmate now starts to be drawn automatically into your life
and you start to be drawn towards wherever he or she is.
It happens without your thinking about it, you just feel drawn.
When we talk about soulmates it's usually a four hour discussion
not a 5 or 10 minute thing like today.
We have done other discussions
and there are already fifty or so discussions on the net
that you can download on a lot of subjects,
but the soulmate discussion is one that we are yet to have with everyone.
Anyway, you are progressing towards God.
You are drawing in closer and closer to God and as you get closer to God,
every emotional injury you have about yourself,
every emotional injury you have about the opposite gender,
every emotional injury will have to be dealt with.
Remember that emotional injuries are covered by anger and resentments and other emotions,
so any time that you feel a smidgen of frustration,
feel a smidgen of anything from the opposite gender
what is happening is that there is an emotional injury there.
It's just a spillage of water, isn't it? Or a hot tea!
All right, I am the woman in this case, I am progressing towards God.
Don't look to much like one hopefully...
But anyway, I'm a woman progressing towards God.
What's happening is, as I am progressing, this desire starts building in me,
this desire for my only partner which is my other half, my soulmate.
What happens then is that there is this awakening inside their soul
which causes them to feel drawn into my life, if they are not already there.
They will just be drawn into my life, whether they are a spirit or on Earth,
it doesn't matter where they are, they will be drawn into my life somehow.
The power of my soul will cause that to occur.
The awakening will occur between the two halves.
The other one won't even have to deal with any injuries,
they will still be drawn.
The problem with that of course is that they might come to us full of injuries.
How many of you have a soulmate who is a murderer?
Everyone goes "No, no, no that's not my soulmate, not a murderer."
Well someone has to have a murderer as a soulmate.
So the trouble is what we do is we make judgments a lot, don't we,
as to who our soulmate should be and who they are.
There's a whole variety of people our soulmate could be
and it's just a matter of me growing towards God
that will attract that soulmate into my life.
So I don't have to go out seeking them.
They will feel drawn into my life as I progress towards God.
As I progress towards God, eventually my soulmate will come into my life.
Now they may be full of emotions that they haven't yet healed.
You are going to have to be in a pretty good space dealing with that.
Let's say you are a female, you have already healed a lot of emotions
and you've worked through all your man anger and resentments,
things that have blocked you regarding your soulmate,
and all the other emotions that you have had to deal within this process.
Then you get in this state where you feel quite good
and all of a sudden your soulmate is attracted and he's got rage with women.
Rage! What are you gonna do with that?
WOMAN: Get rid of him.
You might feel like getting rid of him, for sure.
So, you would actually already be in a state
where you do not respond to a man's rage,
where it doesn't affect you at all.
He can't manipulate you or control you. How good is that going to be?
Your soulmate is there and no matter what state he gets into,
you will be able to assist him in Love.
It doesn't mean you will be with him sexually yet,
because he's still got rage towards women.
Do you want to have sex with a man who has rage towards a woman?
Probably not, right?
So you might not be with him sexually yet,
but you will probably still sometimes be in his life
and let him develop his desire and longing to be with you after you have met
and let him work through his different emotional issues.
If you are in a state where you are humble
and where you are owning all of your emotional experiences,
you will be able to cope with anything they dish out
and you will be able to stay around them in a space of Self Love.
What will happen if you do that is they will feel even more drawn to you
so they will start progressing too
and eventually they will get onto the Divine Love Path as well.
The other part of this is that if I have received Divine Love into my soul,
sooner or later my soulmate is going to want to do the same.
If I haven't, then they might not,
but if I have, then my soulmate would definitely want to do the same.
As you start receiving Divine Love and progressing,
eventually you will go through the process of the New Birth.
No one has gone through it while they are on Earth at this point
except myself in the 1st Century.
I have to go through it again this time with this experience that I am in now.
In the 1st Century and from then on
nobody has gone through the process of the New Birth while on Earth.
When you go through it, when anybody around you goes through it,
you will know it, you will feel it, and it is a totally different condition and space.
It needs to be on the mic, otherwise it doesn't get recorded.
MAN: Over the years there've been a lot of so called enlightened beings, you included.
No, I am called an enlightened being but I don't call myself that.
MAN: - But you were, 2,000 years ago. - No.
MAN: So what would you consider an enlightened being?
And wouldn't Buddha be considered as someone
who has gone to the Divine Love Path?
I know Buddha is considered by everyone else to be on the Divine Love Path
but Buddha is actually on the Natural Love Path in the 6th Sphere.
That's where he currently resides.
The truth is that Buddha doesn't have a concept of God
that is actually God's concept of God.
So, Buddha's concept of God is totally different to God's concept of God
and that's why he is not at one with God.
MAN: So, you are saying you can be enlightened and not be with God.
Everyone who is defined as 'enlightened'
is actually, usually not on the Divine Love Path.
They are all people who believe that they are enlightened,
who are in the perfect condition of Natural Love in the 6th Sphere.
There are literally billions of spirits in what you would call an 'enlightened' state
but it's not what I am calling an At-onement state.
That's totally different.
MAN: Could say what the difference is.
I have already stated some of the differences.
One of them is people saying that I am an 'enlightened being'.
I am sorry but I am not an 'enlightened being'.
I never was. In the 1st Century I wasn't an 'enlightened being'.
In the 1st Century all I was is the same as what you are
- a child of God who went through this process
of New Birth into a condition of At-onement.
I am still God's child.
I don't want you to connect to me because I am an 'enlightened being'.
I want you to connect to God
because God's the enlightened being and no one else really is.
All the people who claim to be are not really.
A lot of the terminology that the 'enlightened beings' use
describes their progression on the Natural Love Path.
The problem is that there are whole groups of spirits
who are with us here today who are prompting many of your questions.
They believe themselves to be enlightened beings.
The truth is that they are on the Natural Love Path
in the 6th Sphere of their development.
They are not even making the transition
because they still think they understand the Divine Love Path,
but they haven't experienced it emotionally.
When they allow themselves to experience it emotionally
they will know the difference.
But it's like, how do I get you to experience Love?
I can't get you to experience Love.
I can talk about it the whole day
but I can't get you to feel the emotion of Love for God for example, can I?
I can talk to you about it if you Love God and you think you Love God
but until you feel a passionate desire and longing for God
you will not feel what it's like to Love God
let alone to experience God's Love to the condition of At-onement.
The problem is that almost all of the so called enlightened beings
that have ever been on this planet have all been on the Natural Love Path
and many of them still are,
because they don't want to give up their concept of self.
When I say they don't want to give up their concept of self, I mean self reliance.
Or they have given it up so much that they have given up their Free Will
and on this path you never give up your Free Will, ever.
In fact your Free Will multiplies and grows on this path.
Remember, one of the reasons for incarnation is to fully realize your own Free Will.
So giving it up is not going to be beneficial.
I have met Buddha him many times in the spirit world.
What he has done, is given up the whole concept of himself as an individual.
He does not believe himself to be an individual anymore.
He is totally reliant on the concept
that has overcome his being that he is actually not an individual.
He has now become God in his own belief and he is in a 6th Sphere state in that belief.
It's very, very hard to talk to him.
It's almost impossible to convince him of anything other than what he believes.
This is a problem with many of the so called leaders
who were looked up to here on Earth
and who have been looked up to for years and generations,
they are actually in that state.
All I am is your brother.
All I have done is the same as what I am saying to you that you can do.
I am never going to call myself an 'enlightened individual'.
I am never going to call myself a Guru; I am never going to call myself an Avatar.
I am not those things; all I am is the same as you.
I am just a child of God who has received Divine Love.
I'd like to describe it to you so you can receive it
in the same manner that I received it, that's all. That's all I am.
Now, you don't have to agree with me,
because you can pass or you can get mediums to talk to Buddha if you want.
You will have a lot of trouble getting a medium to talk with Buddha
because Buddha does not normally do that.
You might have to pass before you can investigate this
and find out for yourself where he is, but I can tell you where he is at the moment.
However I am hoping that with all changes that are coming up,
with all the different things that are going to happen in the next 10 years or so
that, his condition will change.
Many people take many thousands of years
to change from his condition to get into a different condition.
Remember I have lived 2,000 years
so I have seen many people stay in these states for a thousand years at a time,
in the 6th Sphere condition, not wanting to change,
believing very firmly in a whole set of beliefs that locks them in the same place
that you on Earth believe is an enlightened condition and it's not.
It's a condition of emotional shut down going into this so called 'Nirvanic bliss',
which is actually, in many cases, just the projection of all the adulation
and glorification from other people entering their souls.
It's a very damaging place for them to exist in.
I know some of what I am saying is confronting by the way,
but remember I am saying that you don't have to believe this.
WOMAN: I was just wondering about the ascended masters,
like St Germaine, Kuthumi, Djwhal Khul, Sanat Kumar.
Again, that's an Earth definition.
Every single person in the spirit world,
who has progressed in terms of their connection with God,
actually feels that God has raised them into this condition of At-onement.
They don't call themselves ascended masters.
They just don't. An ascended master - what does that really mean?
Isn't that like a glorification?
Saying I am the master almost implies you are the 'slave' right?
Nobody in that state calls himself an ascended master.
WOMAN: Is that just human terminology?
It's a human term, generally in order to glorify a medium's connection to a certain spirit.
The person on Earth needs to look at the emotion that's in them
where they need to say to you,
"Aren't I wonderful I am connecting to the ascended master St Germaine."
Now St Germaine is on the Divine Love Path
and St Germaine is in the Celestial Kingdom
but he doesn't call himself an ascended master.
It's like St. Francis, many of you have hear of St. Francis of Assisi, the same goes for him.
Many of you call him an ascended master. He doesn't call himself that at all.
WOMAN: What about Kuthumi?
This is the state with a lot of these people,
but bear in mind, many of those you call ascended masters are actually not.
They are people in the Natural Love state, in the 6th Sphere state,
who believe themselves to be ascended.
That's a very different condition than actually being in At-Onement with God
because when you are in At-onement with God,
you don't even call yourself ascended.
At-Onement is a natural state that every single person can get into.
It's a state of humility, not a state of grandeur and power and all that stuff
- you don't even think of any of those things in that state.
You follow me? Can you see the difference?
If I am saying that I am different to you,
an ascended master and whatever I have done you can't do,
I have always been there before you or whatever
and I don't believe inside of my heart
that you could ever be where I have been,
then aren't I setting myself above you?
Does God set me above you? No. God doesn't set me above you.
I am a child of God.
WOMAN: Are all of those beings of Divine Love?
Not all the ones you have mentioned - no.
You know how you get these Angel cards from Doreen Virtue or whatever.
Many of the ones on those cards
are actually in the 6th Sphere of Natural Love state
and some of the ones on those cards are in a Divine Love state.
It just depends, a lot of times they are treated as ascended masters
but on the Earth- it's how we define things.
We are always interested in defining things.
Why? Because we are addicted to this emotion of comparing.
We addicted to this emotion of wanting to think I am better
because I have this connection with this spirit.
John sat down with one medium -and this is the Apostle John by the way -
there is a group of seven souls who have returned to the Earth
and Apostle John was one of those. He has now passed.
What happened was he sat down with the medium
and the medium said, "I have got Archangel Michael and Archangel Gabriel with me right now.
"What do you want to know?"
John said, "Well I'd like to ask them a few questions."
She said, "They are saying to me, 'How dare you ask us questions! How dare you?'"
Now who responds like this if they are humble?
Do you think this was Archangel Gabriel and the Archangel Michael?
You come up and ask me questions about my identity
and I just let you be condescending towards me and everything
and I am like, "No worries."
Do you think a person, who is in an At-onement condition,
a person who has gone through all of their emotions,
is going to be angry with you for asking a question? No.
So, who are those spirits?
They are not the people that the medium and the spirits are claiming to be.
That's because it's so easy when you connect with a medium, isn't it?
Imagine yourself being a spirit for a moment, you are invisible,
also your condition, even if you are in the 2nd sphere
is better than most mediums you are connecting to.
So, can they tell who you are?
Can they tell whether you are in the 7th Sphere or 6th Sphere?
You can say anything.
In the 2nd Sphere you still haven't learnt to tell the Truth,
I mean tell the Truth all the time.
So, the lady who or the man who is the medium says,
"Who is this that's come to me please?"
The medium surrounds him or herself with all this light and asks,
"Who has come to me now?"
The spirit says, "I am the Archangel Michael", he is a liar.
He is not the Archangel Michael.
He is in the 2nd Sphere and he hasn't even learnt to tell the Truth yet,
but he is claiming to be the Archangel Michael
because it gives him a sense of power and control
and connection with this woman,
her unhealed emotions are actually what's drawing him.
So, she's saying, "Isn't this wonderful, I have got the Archangel Michael with me."
Then I ask the question,
"I want to know about reincarnation. Is that a Truth?"
and he says, "Yes."
"OK, no worries", so we write that down.
Does he know it's a Truth? How would he know it's a Truth?
You don't know if he knows if it is the Truth.
You just trust him because he is saying who he is.
Honestly, I say who I am and you can see my face and you don't believe me.
Why do you then go to a spirit
who you can't even see and then trust them saying that they are somebody?
Can you see how illogical that is? It's such an illogical thing to do.
You can't even believe someone, who is right there, staring you in the face.
How can you believe somebody
who is actually not even there, that you can't feel?
How are you going to know who they are? Can you see you don't?
You only know what they claim
and you don't know if they are telling the truth unless you can feel them telling a lie.
For you to feel them telling a lie you know where you are going to have to be?
You are going to at least be in the 3rd Sphere of your own development.
Can you see that?
That's because that's the Sphere where you learn to always tell the Truth.
You're going to have to be there.
You are going to have to be actually above where they are
before you will actually be able to see whether they are telling you the Truth or not.
You see there's a general rule in the Universe
and that is unless you are in a condition of Love
that is either the same, or greater than, the condition of Love that another person is in,
you will not be able to see their emotional condition. It makes sense doesn't it?
It's always easy to see from above down, isn't it?
It is much, much harder to look up and see the Truth.
That's the case on the Earth; many of us are looking up.
The truth is mediumship is real.
There is this connection you can have with spirits.
You can talk to spirits all the time.
That's a Truth of the Universe
but don't automatically believe that when you are doing that,
that you are actually talking to the person the spirit is claiming to be.
Don't believe that that's the Truth.
They are a spirit who has come to you for Law of Attraction reasons.
Allow yourself to work through whatever that Law of Attraction is.
Let's get back to soulmates.
We are progressing right? We are attracting our soulmate into our life.
We go through the At-Onement condition.
When you are in this At-Onement condition, your soul is so powerful
that if your soulmate hasn't met you on this Earth yet,
they are pretty insensitive
because it is highly likely they will have already started being attracted into your life.
What happens is that they start getting attracted into your life
and they have emotions to work through.
Because you are in a very good state,
you can deal with those emotions with Love all the time.
Normally people project anger at each other
and the one who projects the most wins, right, isn't that what happens?
Now if I am in a state of Love and I am a woman and a man's projecting,
I know this is woman anger projected at me.
I can feel what the cause of it is so I can help him identify it if he wants to.
I can help him work through the emotion if he wants to.
If he doesn't I just say, "Sorry I can't help you at the moment."
I go away and watch what he is doing.
He goes around and has sex with a few other women,
gets tired of that, comes back to me and I go through the emotion with him.
Eventually he'll come around and I don't have any hurt about that at all.
That's the state I will be in.
So, I am attracting my soulmate.
Above the 8th Sphere are Spheres that go up to the 21st Sphere.
The 22nd Sphere is the highest dimension of space at this point.
The transition that occurs between the 21st and 22nd Sphere
is called the Soul Union.
The soul recombines into its original state.
Remember it started in this state way, way, way, back before incarnation.
Now I am back in this state but there's a huge difference.
I know exactly who I am. My soulmate and I know exactly who 'I am'.
She knows exactly who she is.
When I say 'I am', we are both 'I am', in that state.
We become the one being again in that state.
In that state I have this awesome potential and power
because I have realized all of my abilities with regard to Free Will
and every single thing I do from the 8th Sphere state onwards
is harmonious with Divine Love.
It's harmonious with the Laws of the Universe.
I am in this hugely powerful state of creation.
You can only reincarnate from that place.
Now that poses a lot of questions, doesn't it?
So what about this reincarnation stuff?
What about going to the spirit world and having your life reviewed and coming back,
only to return to the spirit world and go through the entire process again.
'Conversations with God' says we have all reincarnated,
he reincarnated 680 something times -what's going on, what's AJ saying?
I am saying categorically,
you cannot reincarnate without firstly reaching the Soul Union state,
and by the way, if you have reincarnated, at some point,
when you deal with your emotions you will know and remember that state.
It won't be because some spirit's projecting and telling you it is that state,
it'll be because you can feel you are in that state
and you'll have all these memories.
If you have reincarnated,
you will eventually remember every little thing about your first time here.
You will remember all of your life in the spirit world
going through the spheres, people you met, everything
and then you'll remember the Union state.
You will actually remember what it felt like to reincarnate.
By the way, it doesn't feel very nice,
to reincarnate onto this planet in this time
with all the emotions here, not very nice at all.
You will remember all of that and you will understand Divine Truth,
you will already know the Divine Truth that I am telling you about,
you could already be teaching it.
However it may be very traumatic if you reincarnate into this state.
Maybe we will talk about the trauma at another time.
I am in this state in the 22nd Sphere.
I am back, and now I am a 'super soul'. It is like 'Super Sized Me'.
I am not super because of anything inside of myself,
it is because God's Love has entered me and transformed me.
It's got nothing to do with how great I am,
or how good my soulmate is, that got us there.
It was just our desire to experience God's Love that got us there.
It is Divine Love that got us into that state.
So how could I ever say, "I am so proud of myself,
"I have done so much, aren't I great.", when God did it all for me really.
This is why I am a child of God.
When we are in that state that is when we can reincarnate.
That's when we can reincarnate.
Sorry?
We'll get a mic so you can ask the question, because it's an important one.
MAN: Would you want to in that state?
Would you want to reincarnate, what do you think? Most of the time, no.
What is the only reason you would want to? Love.
To come back here to teach Love, that's the only reason why you would want to.
So, when you come back to the Earth what happens?
You are now going to go back to the 1st Sphere, to the 1st Sphere condition.
Remember what I said happens when you first incarnate?
You take all the emotional damage and everything from parents and situations.
But now, not only do you have that to deal with;
you also have 2,000 years of emotional experiences,
which were cleared, which are memories,
now being reflected through that incarnation experience.
Now does that sound pretty traumatic? Yes it's very traumatic.
Sometime in the future,
there will be people on Earth who are in an At-onement condition;
do you think it's going to be traumatic then?
No. To reincarnate then will be a breeze.
You will even remember from the moment you first open your eyes,
"Ah yeah, that's right, I'm Jesus, I can remember that."
It won't be this long drawn out emotional process you've got to go through
before you regain all of the memories of your life.
Everyone here is capable of doing this by the way,
no one is separate from that.
Another question?
You would want to do it for Love, definitely.
MAN: Before you talked about events that will happen in the near future.
Would you like to say something about that?
- Probably not in this discussion. MAN: - Later on?
Well, to me they are not part of the Secrets of the Universe.
I know many of you are interested
because your personal lives are involved and all those kind of things.
I am happy to talk about them in future discussions,
but in reality it's not very important.
Everyone says, "But we might have an earthquake here
"and there might be a flood or tidal wave, who knows,
"and you're saying that's not very important!"
I am saying no, because the truth is, what is important is your soul progression
- that's what's important to me.
Now people think that there were times in history
when I was on the battlefield in the 1st World War and 2nd World War trying to help souls.
I wasn't. I wasn't because they were in a physical battle that wasn't even real.
It's the battle of the soul that's the only real battle that you will ever need to fight.
The battle of the soul is how loving do you want to be,
or how unloving do you want to be.
That's the battle of the soul in the end,
and it claims lots of torturous existences.
There are literally billions of people
who have passed from this Earth into the spirit world
and billions of people on this planet, who are in a terrible, terrible, painful suffering state
because of this battle of the soul.
Every other physical battle on Earth means nothing
in comparison to this soul progression that you can make.
Now, getting back to reincarnation.
What I am saying to you is that reincarnation can only occur from the 22nd Sphere state
and the first time someone reached the 22nd Sphere state was 1935- last century.
Why 1935? Well that's how long it took.
The first soul to reach that state was our soul, myself and Mary.
It took 2,000 years for us to learn about God's Truths
and we are slow learners.
That's why it took that long
to reach the 22nd Sphere state from the 8th Sphere state.
After that other souls came into that state
and then eventually there were seven souls in that state.
Then those seven souls decided
that because of all of these things coming up on the planet
and because of God's plan...
In that state you are At-one with God talking to God all the time
and you know what God's plans are.
We decided to return to the planet and to go through all the trauma,
the emotional stuff and everything else and teach, through our own examples,
how to become At-one with God
as a part of the changes coming up that are going to happen to this planet.
It has all been foretold remember, hasn't it?
It has all been prophesized from way, way back historically,
that these events would occur
and also, ironically, it's been foretold that myself and others would return.
Now what we decided to do was return.
The first one of us returned in 1962
and then the 2nd one returned and the 3rd one returned and so forth.
Now there are other souls other than those seven original souls
that have reached the At-onement condition and they are starting to return.
Many of them are returning for different reasons,
but the first seven have returned specifically to teach the Truths, the Divine Truths.
Now you don't have to believe any of that.
There will be a point in the future if you progress on this path,
where you know that to be true inside of yourself
and you've experienced the Truth of that.
But you don't have to believe it right now. It does not affect you, in fact, right now.
All I am doing is telling you the Truth about reincarnation.
Now that raises lots of questions about reincarnation.
There is a four hour discussion about reincarnation,
answering all of the questions about it such as,
'Why is it that I can remember some events?'
'Why is that I felt I was this person in a past life?'
'When I did some past life regression,
the person took a photo of me and actually I have got a video of that,
why does that happen, what was going on?'
There is an explanation.
If there is a Truth in anything,
then there is an explanation of Absolute Truth that can be presented to you.
The key is whether you want to investigate that or not or whether you say,
"Oh this reincarnation issue.
"No, I can't accept all the rest of this because of the reincarnation issue."
It's up to you what you do because it is your life;
you are allowed to believe in reincarnation for the rest of your life.
By the way, there are still millions of spirits in the 6th Sphere trying to reincarnate.
They totally believe in the reincarnation process
that has been presented through Buddhist or Hindu teachings, or other philosophies.
They believe totally in these, totally.
They have no doubt in their own minds that those things are true, but they are not true.
WOMAN: - Can we reincarnate? - We can reincarnate.
I have just told you we can but only from the 22nd Sphere state.
We need the mic, otherwise our recording doesn't get it.
What's the time, by the way?
WOMAN: I would like to know, if we don't reincarnate,
how are we going to get through all of the spheres?
Well there is this false belief here on the Earth and in the spirit world
that you have to reincarnate to get rid of karma.
It's not true.
The truth is that you can progress just as rapidly on Earth,
or even more rapidly in the spirit world and you don't have to come to Earth to do it.
All you need to do is work through the emotions
that have caused you to arrive in the spirit world in a certain state.
There are literally hundreds of thousands of spirits with us right now,
hearing this material, who are wanting to reincarnate.
Those spirits need to bear in mind that they don't have to.
All they need to do is work through their emotional issues where they are right now.
That's all they have to do.
When they do that they will automatically grow into a new sphere of Love.
They don't have to reincarnate at all
and I feel many of them, even just hearing that, give a sigh of relief,
because who wants to come back
and re-infect yourself with stuff over and over and over again,
working through hundreds and hundreds of lives here on the Earth
when you can just do it in one.
Why would you want to do that? You wouldn't want to would you? No.
The Truth is always beautiful. The Truth is always loving.
I've never believed in reincarnation.
That might sound funny, but anyway...
I've never believed in it in the way that it's been presented on the Earth,
because of that reason.
Even when I was in the spirit world I never believed in it by the way.
There are channelled messages that you can read from me
saying that I have never believed in it.
I have never believed in it because it an unloving thing
and God never does anything unloving.
God always does things in the most direct, beautiful way.
God is never unloving. God never creates a Law that's unloving.
Listen to the law of reincarnation
as it is proposed by most religions or New Age ideas.
I live a life on Earth. I do lots of damage to myself and other people.
I go to the spirit world with all this damage.
I have a big life review.
Now I have got to work through the damage or the karma that I did
by returning back to Earth.
I return back to Earth but oh, by the way
God's going to rub out all your memory of what happened in the last life
and all the things you did do wrong.
So, now not only do I have to deal with my life from the karma,
but I can't remember the karma that I have to deal with.
Oh, yeah that's right, now I've got a spirit with me.
She is actually telling me I was actually Joan of Arc, yeah,
but how does that help me deal with my karma?
What did I do as Joan of Arc?
Did I slaughter people? Yes I did.
I murdered people when I was Joan of Ark.
What kind of karma do I have to work through now?
I don't know. I can't connect to that emotionally.
How do I work through it?
Can you see there's so much error in this teaching as it's presented?
The trouble with the mind is,
when something all sounds logical to the mind,
we then go ahead and believe it,
even though we don't understand
that our mind's logic is based upon our emotional error.
We are often highly illogical in our mind
because of an emotional error that exists in our soul. Does that make sense?
WOMAN: Can I ask if we clear our own emotions and then we go into Divine Love,
does that clear our DNA for our relatives?
Yes. It clears everything
because the beauty of your soul development
is your soul drives everything that's happening to your spirit body
and everything that's happening to your physical body.
There are spirits here in this room at the moment
that have huge crosses and fissures all over their bodies.
They look a mess, they look in the mirror and they can't stand the sight of themselves.
I am saying to those spirits, just like I am saying to you,
that you can progress from that state without coming back to Earth,
by just dealing with your emotions and connecting with God and receiving Divine Love.
If you continue to do that and release your emotions,
your bodies,
whether it's a spirit body or material body
will automatically repair
and it will repair so much that you will grow young again.
WOMAN: But I am talking about other people
who given us these problems, parents, grand parents.
It doesn't matter, whatever is in my soul unexperienced,
as soon as I allow the experience of it, and I will release it.
It doesn't matter where it came from.
WOMAN: Will it help to release for them as well?
Not necessarily. They have got their Free Will
so they are allowed to decide to hold on to it if they want to.
It can help them a lot, but it may not.
If it's our children, yes, it will help them immensely,
because most of their injuries were created by our own denial of our own injuries,
so of course with our children it will help them work through everything very rapidly.
But it may not either, it's their Free Will, they have Free Will.
They are allowed to make the choices that they make.
They are allowed to not deal with their emotions.
Now what I am going to have to do...
Because we need to pack up
since we've booked the venue till 6 o'clock.
What we are going to have to do is finish now.
You are welcome to come along tomorrow.
Tomorrow is more like a question and answer session
and I'll present a few more details
about the Secrets of the Universe in that session.
You are welcome to come along tomorrow.
It will be the same kind of thing, the same kind of format.
If you want, you can bring some food,
and there will be some food here as well. We will start 1:00pm.
I'd like to thank you very much for your attention
and the beautiful way you have treated me.
End of Session 1 Part 2
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