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"We were raised by television to believe that one day we'd be millionaires, movie stars and rock stars,
but we will not be. Gradually we become aware of the fact." (Tyler Durden, from "Fight Club" movie)
In memory of Pastor Francisco Zapatta
My name is Eduardo mano, I'm a church's musician. I have four recorded albuns and my ministry is a Failed Ministry.
My name is João Vitor, I am Pastor of first Baptist Church from Rio de Janeiro and I have a Failed Ministry
Hi, my name is Felipe Leitão, I am the editor of "Tempo de Colheita" and my "Tempo de Colheita" Ministry is a Failed Ministry,
Grace and peace! I am Bruno Lima, I'm the "Missões GAPE" general director 12 years ago. And my ministry is a FAILED.
FAILED MINISTRIES.
Care - Service - Hug - Relationship - Sacrifice - Forgive - Cross - Involvement - Appreciation - Being - Passion - Gratitude
Hi, my name is Yago. My whole life I had a idea that I needed to have a Minister of success
And that I needed to have a big church, and I needed to sell so many books or many CD's if I was a musician...
And when I saw those Preachers in those big Congresses and Conferences what I though was: "I want to be like this guy", I want to be like him...
to do what he does. I wanna to be famous in the country and to preach my word out there. However the gospel shaped me about it.
I saw that those minds of ministries of success are not what the Bible teaches.
When we look at the life of Noah, preacher of righteousness, that walk with God, but only 12 person listened the message
When we look to men like Jeremiah that since the mother's womb was formed prophet among the nations, however he says in his book that for 23 years he preached the Word
And the people did not want to hear him. Isaiah was send to FAILED. God has sent him to a people that God hardened their hearts.
So I noticed that in the Scripture the prophets of God, the greats men of God not necessary to have success to the "light" of this world. They were not necessarily seen as men
who went out awards and who will be hear.
Christ haven't a ministry of success according of the judgement of this world. He came to consummating the Gospel and he was God himself, however there were few who would enter at his Kingdom.
In his own city was not found faith there. So when we look around of the world we must not seek the concepts of success in the world. Nor to seek the referentials that the world gives us and put this in our ministry. We need to understand the success is fidelity.
And that success is to do what the bible wants. Since our ministry is a failure in the eyes of the world, we can believe that it is a success before God.
We interviewed four people, four Four ministers anonymous. Bruno Lima, minister and missionary from GAP mission. Felipe Leitão, editor of "Tempo de Colheita" Publisher
João Victor, Pastor of the First Regular Baptist Church from Rio de Janeiro. Eduardo Mano, the church's musician from Rio de Janeiro. And all of them are anonymous ministers are men that sell a few CD's...
Pastors from little churchies, Publishers that are just selling a few of books, missionaries who have a small structures around them.
But we'll look to those men and try to see that they have to say about the FAILURE accordind the world, but the success according God.
Hi my name is Yago, and my Ministry is a FAILURE.
I believe that this idea of a Ministry of success is complicated because the Bible don't say about success, in the sense we are used. It hasn't a example of person that is on charts.
The Bible says about faithful people. Success is something that comes from the Lord, that is, some men of God that were faithful like Jeremiah that suffer opposition
Faithfull men like Isaiah that had to preach until he had no stone upon another. They are not a example of modern success, but they was faithful men...
So the Bible says about faithfulness before success. I don't believe that success to be a biblical worry, therefore there is not a worry from God.
Can do God tro bring success? But success in the bible is to be blessed, sucessful, this comes from having characteristics that are gleaned from the Word of God.
The ministry of success is much more of being a Pastor of crowds. In fact, somebody believes that more crowds watch the preaching..
of a particular Pastor, more sucessful he is. In fact, I think that the ministry sucessful of a sucessful Pastor is a godly Pastor, and this godliness reverberates in your family, doing that your family to be godly too.
And that godliness is also present at local church that he develops.
A sucessful ministry is that process according the will of God. The Bible says to us who God requires of dispensers is that they be found faithfull.
Was Apostle Paul that gave that word, registered at 1 Corinthians, Chapter 4, verse 2. The "dispensers" wrote there, is a term that he uses to the Pastor, the Minister of Gospel. Somebody that receives from God
And who transmits faithfully it received. Is this what requires from the minister, from Pastor, from leader...
That he be faithful to his vocation, his commitment, in the content delivery that God reveals each Holy Scriptures,
Moreover, the Scripture says to us about motivation, that we must to serve God, to preach his Word, to evangelize, to announce his glory, motivated by a desire greater to see God exalted, sinners saved and the church being built up.
The Bible constantly says about Pastors and leaders called of false prophets, false apostles and false masters who are motivated by the money, by fame, by greed and by popularity.
Therefore, a sucessful ministry must be measured by the values of the Word of God. Sometimes a person can be popular, he can to have a numerous church, a great ministry
However his intentions and his objective are not according with the Word of God. In this case he may seen sucessful but by God's eyes is not, in fact.
A sucessful ministry is a ministry in obey to the will of God revealed in the Word. When you are in the obey of God, when you are firmed in the Scriptures this is your sucessful ministry
Even according the concept of men may not to be, but when you are firmed in Truth and obeying the Truth you are pleasing Lord God, and to please the Lorg God is a biggest success who a human being may to have.
For me the success on selling CD's means that: I compose bliblical songs , that gives glory to God and says about the attributes of God, that gives glory to Christ
That says about the work of salvation, that values the holiness wrought in us by the Holy Spirit. So the selling of CD's is on the God's hands...
Is He who decides that things, is He who makes the CD's get where He wants it gets. And is He who inclines the heart of who He wants to buy the CD's.
I play at church for almost 20 years. I started at age 14, actually I am 33, so are 19 years playing at church. Since 2008 I started a copyright work with own songs and recording this and distributing free on the internet
To bless somebody and be edifying to the church
"Do you travel a lot?" - No, I don't, it means, I don't know, a little, not much
"Do you sell a lot of CD's?" - No, everybody gets free, why they need to buy? "Do you earn a lot of money?"
- No. Nothing. "So what do you carry on this ministry?"
- Why God called me and I have sure of this! "Talk more about that"
I have full conviction that
the way I compose, that I record is not to my exaltation, I have a full sure about that, I have a full sure that what I do is an attempt to glorify and dignify to Christ
And I haven't how to see success on it, because the standard of success for the world is to bring the glory to himself and on the contrary, I want that the glory to be solely and exclusively from God!
So, there are no succes on this, is just to "break the head."
"Do you want to be famous?" - No
But sometimes do you feel sad? - Yes
"Talk about that moments of crisis..." - It's bad because how we have work with Bands, I work with musics
I have so much friends who work with Bands and they do the same things like me and I know that some of them has "success", they play much, to travel much, have more facility to recording, more facility to distribute their material...
And that sometimes afflicts man and the heart that is deceitful, thinking if I haven't this kind of result, I should stop or should to quit
And stop with it all. But, I know that when I pray I have a full conviction that is this what God wants. I don't have other possibility, I don't have other way to work except this.
Is going to play where the door is opened to me. Geting free CD's and doing that gives peace at my heart. It's not a human peace, it's not a superficial peace, I have a full peace. Today we participated of a cult here and I am in peace with what we heard and preached and spoke.
Not with a peace because I do a good job, but because God has spoken with them, and is this that make me happy!
"Do may you speak about the producing of you CD?"
I record the CD at home, literally at home, I have a computer, I have a audio interface, I have two microphones. is what I use to do recording, and I have a audio edition software, I record all, capting the audio, I edit the audio, I mix the audio, and I record MP3, and like that I share free on internet.
In this way I have no cost, I don't cost with this, and I have how to deliver free material.
"From where comes this ideia to deliver the songs on internet?"
I don't know, it's a good question... The ideia to share free songs, is a few of inspiration in Keith Green, who was a american musician on 70's
He died on 82 in a plane crash and he did that when the media was the disc. (LP)
He did record and share it free to the people who he knows could to bless in some way. He had a ministry that I believe it was prophetic
In order that the message was hard, was not a superficial message, it's not a message to the ego of people in his position and like someone is devoid of God
In this way I think it was a good inspiration the way like he did. Now, to share free on internet, in these days everybody to do download of songs, everything is easy, you can do download of anyone, so to avoid the "downloaders" I prefered o put free on internet.
"Do you get paid to play?" - No "How do you keep up?"
- I work "How do you reconcile those two things?"
- I don't reconcile.. (laughs) I don't earn enough to live and I don't to get paid to play, so is God that provides.
"What do you think about living only playing?" - I can't to say that I would not want
Because, I'd like to have time to compose more, to record more and to may do some projects that I have on my mind that I know that could to bless somebody of some way but I have no time because I need to work
And.. at the same time the work that I have today is a work that allow me to leave, to travel and play because I am freelancer, I have no formal contract so, like this I am going living...
I don't get paid to play, the churchies that want to bless of anyway they bless, some churchies that we go, we don't earn nothing, so it's not problem and never will be
And it never can't be, because if be, I will be depreving somebody the body of Christ of something who God can say for him, so is like that I work.
"What do you think about the famous and succes people, the selling of CD's the ideal of a success ministry?"
"What do you think about this idea?"
I think it's a satanic idea... Because it was the devil wanted, to steal the glory of God and we know the end of him
And I think complicated when someone wants to steal something that is not of his right, because when we plays to God and in this sense is literally to play for that His glory be manifested and revealed at church
On body and through the body. We can't desire the aplauses for us or the spotlights (I don't like this), but the spotlights be ever on us.
Because it nurtures the ego and the inflated ego is the worst thing to the human being, the heart of a man is deceitful.
That is a thing that stay constantly at my heart and my head: "The heart of a man is deceitful", so if I believe in my heart I am being deceitful to myself. So I can't judge, I can't point the finger and speaking: "Oh, my God, you are going to the hell", but it is wrong, I am not judging nobody but it is wrong.
"So you said me you are poor" - (laughs) poor, poor, you are bad, Yago! (laughs) "But you are not rich?" - No "Do you don't get paid to play" - No
"Do you don't sell a lot of CD's?" - No "Do you don't travels to many churchies?" - No "Before de men your ministry is a FAILURE" - Maybe
"But and before God?"
- I think He likes "Why?"
- By what I fell inside of me, I think.... I think He rejoices, I believe in this.
And some moments that I feel it of a way so palpable and I have no doubt. So, I think He rejoices...
Do you have some message to finish, something to say to people think in the ministry, think about playing, think about to be a musician and some kind of this but have the scrambled head and yet
they see in theses famous ministries that earn so much money and so much aplauses, a ideal to be follow?
If you are with this in mind is fine you don't start it. If you are with idea to have succes, if you are with the ideia that the ministry is to something or a way to you travel more, or a way to you have more money, so you don't start it, guy, because you are already starting on wrong way.
If you want that your ministry is something who God has given you to honour His name, to you work to His glory, to you work for the building of the Kingdom of Him and for His church, you can carry on
But don't wait nothing by the men, What do you hope something of a people as bad as you? Is this...
The ministerial success is to love the Christ, live with Christ, is to walk with Christ, I believe it is the great success who any person who loves and desire to see the Gospel of Christ to prosper
Desire for himself. Think about the beggining of history, when God came to the Garden of Eden to walk with Adam, What was the failure? The failure was that he sinned
And he was not in a place he must to meet with God and ashamed himself, but after we start to see the history of success
, we start to see the history of success in the life of Enoch who walks with God, in the life of Noah who walked with God, in the life of Abraham who God said: "Abraham, walk in my presence, be perfect"
We see this success on life of people of God, to walk with God at desert and God always be together them. In fact, ministerial success is not "to walk" with God
Is God to walk with us and bless us with His grace.
First person who I remember is John the Baptist, he had the anointment of Holy Spirit, he did work of Lord and before of person of Christ
he did not yeld to temptation to usurp the glory of Christ, on the contrary, he professed with his heart: "He must increase, but I {must} decrease." (John 3:30)
I believe that it is ministerial success the point of John the Baptist to die for preaching the Truth, to speak the Truth, when was not convenient to speak.
To talk about Mynistry of success we need to think first about what is Ministry, if we understand ministry like
Service, promotion of Gospel, message from Lord Jesus Christ, preaching, faith, repentance, if the ministry envolves content of message from Gospel
So the ministerial success will be when that content is announced with fidelity, will be when that content is announced according the Scriptures.
The success will not be new members, will not be the church full of people, will not be a conference like that here very sucessfull in terms of participation
will not be raised hands, ultimately, will not be those things that apparently can produce, but will be a genuine response to the calling that the message of Gospel does.
On my opinion the ministry of success is when the Pastor knows the name, the families, the people, the face, he can distinguish who is who
When he has time to talk to people. When someone needs of Pastor in the morning, but if he could not by morning for ministerial reaons
But in the afternoon he is already available. I think when the Pastor is near of sheeps, when he knows the sheeps by the name and the sheeps know the tone of voice of his Pastor
I think it is a ministry of success. Doesn't matter the number, what matter is the assistance.
Paul said that the document of Pastor is his disciple. In what sense? On quality of his discipleship to Christ, he who does not disciple himself.
Because Paul said that we preach not ourselves but to Christ, and if in fact he is a good Pastor if he is successful because he really take people and here we can't quantify this
We need to see that to each one God gives a range, a span, so the important is to be faithful, in order to discipling
really ones that are under his ministry and leadership to be followers and imitators of Christ.
"How long of ministry do you have?" - I have 3 years of ministry, starting for the fourth, January 2nd I completed the fourth year here.
"Where did you study?" - I studied at Maranatha Bible Institute at Marilandia do Sul - Parana.
"Do you receive many invitations to preach at conferences?" - No, I don't receive many invitations and is very sporadic and rarely I receive any invitation
Generally are invitations of the churches we have fellowship, otherwise I have not received many invitations.
"Do you travel a lot to preach?" - No, I don't travel a lot to preach
Do you earn much money? - No, I don't earn much money also (laughs)
"Do you share your preaching videos on internet?" - Yes, always possible! I have no habit recording systematically but when I recorded a preching I share on internet.
"That videos have many hits?" - No, no many hits.
"Do you like it has many hits?" - On one hand I wish you were hoping to be serving in the building to many people, on the other hand I'm worried about my heart that's misleading.
and there is propensity for pride, for vanity and for vainglory in theses questions that can bring many visibility on this areas.
"Would you like to be recognized by preaching? By the internet though the videos?" The recognized is something that we need to take care
Be recognized because I am something or to have a recognition that God has used his life to access the life of other people. For this side I would like to know who God has used me to be a channel of blessing in the life of other people but
naturally our heart always leans to the side of sin, of glory and want to steal the glory of God
So, kind of yes and kind of no. I let like that "How do you feel knowing that your videos are not many hits on internet?"
We always think about it if maybe I don't speak something that others are used to speak and that is what the people want to hear
or because there are a certain portion really a little people have a good ear to the sound doctrine.
So I don't know to say you how I fell but I seek satisfaction in the Lord with these things.
"Your church is big?" - No, my church is not big. Not in the building and not on numbers.
"Would you like that it to be big?" - No
"Why?" - I have nothing against the big churches, but as Pastor, how the Lord has called me I could not be a Pastor of a big church, I could not to access the life of people at a big church
I could not to talk with people, I could not to know and to stop and pray because that will limitate my ministry as much as I might have other auxiliaries, other Pastors working but
As Pastor my joy is to have contact with people, contact with sheeps, may to talk, may to care and help and I uderstand that a big church sometimes complicates this issue!
"Ok, so you don't earn much money, you don't have a big church, you are not watched often on YouTube, you don't travel to preach, you don't participate of a big conferences"
"Why do you keep in this ministry?" because was this what God called me! My joy is in this called, I will not feel pleased even I leaving the ministry and going to work in a place that I earn four times or five times that I earn here but
I will no have peace because I know that I will not doing the will of God. So independent of results my satisfaction comes obeying that the God has provided to perform here.
"Yes, what about your family? You have a wife and a daughter.
You are always able to provide their sutenance, or if your wife wants something more, that does not bother you it can not give her?"
Yes, what bother me is not what I can give or let to give, but my worry is providence on health! To care of my wife and daughter's health, may to have a condition to pay a Health Plan, but in other side
God always provides. We don't have what say of these 3 years starting 4 years of something that God was unjust.
But we understand that each privation, each dificulty is part of purpose of God to shape our character conformed to the image of Christ.
So we give thanks to God according Paul says at Philippians 4 by the means he provides and we learn the contentment in Him.
I fell not frustrated to not giving something to my wife So much so that I see that God wants to work with her in relation to contentment.
And God has promised to supply the needs and not the benefits that sometimes is what our heart seeks.
We seek always contentment in God, sometimes we murmur, sometimes we sin against God in allowing the *** of the eyes to attract, and let us lead by what we see and the pride of life
But we give thanks to God by His Spirit who convinces us, bring again to the Truth that we need keep that is the centrality
And the contentment on work and in God. ""But about you? Something material that you desire, how do you feel when you can't to have and you"
you seeing other ministers that not preach the Word with fidelity and God blessing of this way?"
I will give an example. I have not car and I uderstand that to the ministry the car is something necessary, it is not a benefit, I see it like a need to help, urgent things and It pleased God that until now I had not one. By one side I always
face as coming by the providence of God. I praise the God because He has helped me to understand
I understood that God blesses his people by showing them that joy is not in search for it to get something from him, but search for it to get joy in him.
When I am not I am entrusting to God, then of course what I try to see people who have something that I want,
It is sinful. I am ungrateful when complaining about what I have rather than be grateful of what ho!
But I thank God that in all this he did much work in producing contentment in my heart.
Q: do you think God will rejoice in your Ministry? A: well, this is a difficult question ...
Because if you were, you might think: "That man proud!" if I said no, it's like you're throwing everything out the window ...
But considering what the Apostle Paul had already said many times: "be imitators of me as I am of Christ"
I think that the Apostle Paul was proud of the fact that the way she was living before God could guide other.
So I understand that God like as I'm conducting my Ministry as is giving me peace in my heart.
When we are not doing the will of God, one of the first signs is that we are not alone, because we lose the communion with him.
Regardless of the struggles, from the mistakes, then I think God likes how I'm serving, mostly for peace that gave me in the heart.
Q: what message do you want to leave it to those who want to enter Pastoral Ministry but want a big Church, travel, fame, expensed
A: go to do anything else but not the Shepherd! Because aside from the fact that destroy other people's lives, when God finally with his grace you will open your eyes,
I do not know if you manage to recover from the shock of the lives you have ruined, and scandals that have caused in the name of God.
Therefore, it is good that you analyze first what are the main reasons that push you to want to put on a Ministry.
Why you might want something safe and some easy, but if you're not motivated by love, love for the glory of God ... Let it go.
The Minister of success is the one described by the Apostle Paul, the faithful Minister (Corinthians Chapter 4)
"... then no matter to be judged by you or by a human Tribunal; Indeed, I do not consider it even by myself.
In fact I have no conscience of any blame. not for this but they are justified; He who judges me is the Lord. "
What matters is that the Lord considers us as stewards of faithful who transmettano the word without hidden agendas, but with cheerfulness, integrity and charity,
own domain which is the fruit of the spirit, knowing that God is the Lord of our history and of our Ministry and he goes all glory and honor
Therefore, a Ministry blessed is the one who says "Lord I want to enjoy in the first place" because doing so will do good to those
they want to please the Lord. The Ministry failed, is what puts people first, negotiating the divine values
with humans: doing so you get lost completely in the journey.
The bankruptcy is when a Ministry leader instead of pointing people to God, he focuses on himself.
John the Baptist said simply: "I'm not the groom, but are only his friend". Our goal is that the Bride Groom, ami
not that flirt with his friend. Therefore our mission is that people love God.
It's simple: If I saw someone flirting with my wife, well I arrabbierei very much! Imagine when this happens in the Church,
and the man that God has established to be leaders, instead of addressing his wife to him, prefer flirtarci ...
A bankruptcy attorney is just that. So no good: God called me so I love directions of his people to him.
I think a bankruptcy is when the Ministry Pastor becomes vain, vanity has ruined many ministries.
Many ministries missionaries have started well but were diverted by selfishness and vanity: it's definitely a terrible evil.
It's as if the pastor of a church called a canticle to magnify the Lord, but diverts the attention on himself rather than God. It is the end!
I believe that the Ministry failed is what succumbs to worldly temptations, instead of n in the true Gospel.
The Ministry established in the Gospel is always Benedict, no matter the reaction. But when isn't built on the cornerstones of the word, is destined to succumb.
A home in bankruptcy, is when you are able to bring together many people in Church, in the right way, with the word of God and the good preaching, except that
the Church is not fruitful: transforming lives! 1 Corinthians 3 says that anyone can put anything aside from that Foundation already laid, which is Jesus Christ
Therefore, a beautiful church, Christ-centred, not where God is exalted, can you tell me what you think ...for me it failed!
I am the Director of "harvest time", and I'm also the guy who makes the coffee for the others.
The publishing house was founded in 2005, we started publishing two books, then three more. Nowadays we have published 18 ... God willing we will close the year with 23.
7 years have passed since the publication of the first book. From that day we did a lot of research, so I'm 5 years we publish material.
Q: what are the authors that published? A: we started with the publication of books by Mark Driscoll, but surprisingly appeared in this video
who published a guy named Lucas, called "why I hate religion." He had a big impact on the internet in our favour.
This was very positive for our publishing house. We publish books by John Piper, which although it is not our goal
He enriches us much in sound doctrine, that we confess.
Q: You won some prize for literature? A: No, not at all.
Look we've been once nominated to win something, but nothing more.
: How many people work in "harvest time"? A: look, I'm both employer that the only employee! The others are all collaborators.
Q: can you support your family well with your job? A: look, God always will never fail
Sometimes we had difficulty, admittedly, sometimes I am a little anxious about how to pay the Bills, but miraculously God has always intervened.
In moments of silence and disanimo, always feel the hand of God that gives me peace.
Q: Sell many books? A: I don't know what the standard of a successful sale, but sell enough.
Lately we are selling a little more, some videos contributed to sales ... of course, nothing sensational as thousands of copies,
but we worked well, and the priority is not in selling as much or less, but when we run into a book that we consider very edifying we can to promote it
Q: would you prefer that there was a boom in sales? A: it goes without saying: I hope to grow ...
But even if we do not become large, this will not hinder our work.
Because it is really nice when we receive an email that tells us of lives transformed thanks to a book, encourages us a lot, rejoice!
Evidence that it is really worth!
Q: Why can't you publish books that would sell more? A: Well I hope they sell good ones that we publish!
But we sell as much or no, it won't be the profit to guide us, because our sales are dependent on God.
What I mean? At the beginning I sold the cd, before becoming a Publisher, we were suppliers.
People were buying thousands of CDs of that Ministry, sold very well. One day someone told me:
"Felipe, but ... This cd is really good? " I hesitate ... I replied: "It is good". But the doubt remained. Since that day I have reevaluated everything.
Taken a decision: "from now on I will only just what can build, not what you can sell."
One day I was recommended a book written by an American (then was not none), named "the shack" (the refuge).
I do not regret not having it published.
Has been very successful, lots of publicity, and ...
Q: don't you regret? A: absolutely not.
Q: does not earn much money, you don't have an actual team, you're not popular, sell little, why continue?
A: because my definition of success is different, our success is guaranteed because in Christ are blessed.
Many colleagues have started at the same time our and have already given up, because they have earned as they wanted.
Of course, I want to give the best to my family, but what about the great success, I believe that we have already.
Because when we see God's hand at work, I am the first to be blessed and happy, I and my whole team.
Q: So you believe that God will rejoice at what you are doing? A: Yes. Many times when I lose myself moods,
I know that God is happy to me, and therefore makes me feel its presence in continuation.
Q: isn't always of great comfort, however your economic life, with your wife, but God there is always arguing.
Q: If one day you Strait lacked necessary, what would you do? What would you think about the project "harvest time"
Rimangeresti you all? A: No, absolutely not. Would not ever, because it is always a great joy to know that God is with me.
We try to remain simpler as possible, we do not use branded clothing and other luxury items, since it would be so far from our reality.
We don't need these things to have joy, we have the Lord and we are already super pleased.
Look, I'm not preaching a false moralism, we are truly thankful for what God has given us!
And in the little things, like an outing at mcdonald 's, we're more than happy.
Q: what message do you want to leave it to those who want to sell Christian books with only the intent
to earn a lot of money, success and fame?
A: do you want to earn money? Go to sell chewing gum!
Who or what do you aggrapperesti then in moments of crisis, eh? You must have a much higher goals than simply "for profit".
A failed Ministry is a Ministry that exists just for the pastor, his ego, his vainglory, that can also seem blessed,
popular, well-known, but if does not serve God ... If one day you do not odranno the words "well done, faithful servant" then you realize that his entire life was a failure.
If you have a pastor, mask and pretend to walk with God, an empty religiosity and bereft of intimacy with God, although you can succeed
to darla to drink that God is with you when in reality God is far from what he wants from you ... Failure is just that: no fear
of the Lord, having attracted rather by success.
The Ministry failed, therefore, is what happens outside the standards of God's Word, and although it may seem "blessed":
Because the Church is full, many people follow the Shepherd, it becomes economically ... God knows our hearts, and he knows what motivates people
Therefore, although the world is to be a success, for God is a failure! Paul says in 1Corinthians, cap 2
that on judgment day, God's fire ministries will progress, and what was built with second-rate material, like wood, hay and
Straw, will be consumed by God's judgment. You are referring to the leaders who will be judged by God and set out the substantiating hearts.
There will be many surprises that day. Sometimes the opposite happens: a faithful person, but his Church is not large, neither popular nor famous,
in fact if the leader is faithful to the Lord, the worst can happen, as persecution, hatred, the beatings ... For this reason we cannot
judge whether the Ministry is blessed or not through external results, but we have to await judgment day
When God will reveal what lurks in the hearts of everyone.
A failed Ministry is a Ministry indicating the Church to follow a conceited man who does not align to the Biblical parameters.
Therefore, a person can also be very popular, reaching up to television, but if the Ministry is centered in one person
and in his thoughts and desires, has failed. Everything that is not aligned with the word of God, humbly before Christ, is a failure
and this will be revealed sooner or later.
When the pastor is attracted by other interests, and not by mere proclamation of the word of God. When the focus of the Ministry
is anything other than this, when a Conference despite deploying several books, he idolizes the preacher ...
When presiding over a very charismatic, who knows how to stir audiences but has a goal dismissed from Gospel,
This Ministry has failed.
It can be whatever you want, but not a home. Despite many times people who do these things are genuine,
are genuinely deceived, and if they fail to understand what really makes a home blessed, as fidelity
then everything they do will be failed.
The Ministry failed is that Minister who thinks only for himself. His mind is occupied by profit from money,
in promoting its glory! When its priority is to first floor, appearing as much as possible in the radio, tv,
is a failed.
GAP missions (Group of adoration of the father) began with a meeting, where the servants of God, decided to share their faith to build other people through the testimony.
With the passage of time, many lives were built, and the Ministry was born. I could divide our history into two parts
the first was that of his birth, and the second that it is this that we are experiencing is the discovery and confirmation of vocation from God.
To heal lives and ... Q: what are the obligations of GAP up nowadays?
A: Gap is based on reach middle school and recently, we also open with universities.
Our core is in Fortaleza, Sobrau, Joào Pessoa, and Moçorò. Gap exists to create a means by which the Church can exercise his vocation,
exercising the gifts that we have received by the grace of God. Therefore, this passion allows us to
to influence young people, which nowadays are continually bombarded by the sinful seductions of this modern era
and help them maintain their fire for Christ. This helps them a lot. So we're on the road with tent
giving space to the work of Christ bearing witness of lives transformed, the recovery of those who have gone astray, and in rebellion to God.
Q: how long are you in business? A: By 12 years. Q: how's the dialogue with the Church?
A: it is difficult. We are sometimes hesitant. Unfortunately there are many churches where leaders are interested in other things, thus deluding
their members ... so we are sometimes unsure in making the first step.
Mostly when it comes to activities, sometimes distrust of us because sometimes it seems that we are depriving them of their members.
There are pastors who admire what we do, and pray for us, but more often than not we are left alone.
We have pastors that we depend on, obviously. The Ministry is under the pastoral care of a church.
Q: In these 12 years, how many missionaries have maintained? A: we have never supported anybody, only now we are sending the first missionary.
But as far as preparation is concerned, we have prepared about 400 young people.
The fact is that our joy in Christ is giving the possibility to people to vote according to their vocation.
This serves to keep people from what is "Babel syndrome", i.e. making a name and putting himself in competition with Christ.
Then there are Christian missionaries movements at universities, ranging from Ministers that have been prepared by Gap.
This is something that makes us very thankful to God. Q: talking about you primarily, in these 12 years, you are devoted mainly to Gap?
A: In these 12 years, many things are interlaced between my personal life and Gap. I have a doctorate in theology, and I am the Director of Gap, but
I had to delay my studies due to commitments with Gap when we were at the beginning. Since they couldn't pay me, I had no money to move,
I had to always go on foot, sometimes covering large distances. Then I had two options:
Or I ate ... Or paying service. More often than not I ate!
Therefore, the Ministry is not a choice, but it is something that is interlaced with your destiny and discover gradually that you grow up with God. You can not escape.
Then, I dedicated myself, and many more. I sweated, I cried, I gave blood for this Ministry.
I asked for help, several times I've been betrayed, because well ... they are seen as a small anonymous preacher.
And then ...who wants to stand on the side of a poor failed? But in the end, you realize that from the evidence there is so much more
and you don't stop, I can say that Gap was my life in these 12 years. It was what God used to form my character,
and if I were to go back, confront all that I faced ...be called a beggar, a dreamer,
I'd never done anything, that I was a poor dumb because I was moving away from those ministries that would give me a lot.
I would do it all again. Without thinking twice. Because I was granted the honour and grace to see lives reclamation, preparing Ministers fans
who are not afraid of nothing, not even death.
Then, Gap has been a passionate dedication of my heart.
Q: Gap doesn't give you any financial support? A: No. Q: are you working now?
A: look, seeing the need that have the Gap, I always preferred full-time work.For this I've tried so far work ....
but Gap does not remunerarmi, and I will soon find a job according to my education.
The fact is that we always need a hand, this resource is our needs: we need more people possible, capable and with a real call.
to help us. There are many cases of suicide in universities: people who have a desperate need,
and what I need is not being able to do more. It's always a drama to fail to muster enough people to do more.
Q: you're invited to preach in other countries, travel a lot? A: I've never traveled in my life.
I preached a lot in Fortaleza, and I helped in the formation of leaders in these 10 years as a mentor.
Preached in many churches can say, but only on the outskirts of Fortaleza.
Probably the major ministries do not know me, to tell the truth I am alone, like a drop in the middle of the desert.
I'm just a man who does what he believes God has put in my heart, and I do not care about what others say.
I don't care that God knows my heart, this is the most important thing.
Q: the big ministries missionaries know Gap? A: No, I think not, I can't guarantee it. Sometimes we try to establish contacts but ...
Q: can't you feel kinda saddened because nobody pays you for what you do, for your sacrifices?
A: No.
Q: why don't we have been called to become famous. The word says that we cannot be more than our master.
One of the things that most are horrified me is this idea of the Ministry set up blindly ... Watch, the helmsman's not you ...
But the rower! What obeys. Are not entered in the missions looking for earnings, but conscious of the sacrifices.
Got It? Usually we say that no one can be sure to be a servant of God if he has not first explored the depths of the disenchantment of oneself and the world,
because the treasures that gives the world not a blessing but a priming. There is one thing that happens sometimes ...
God gave us the grace to spread the word about Gap for Fortaleza, but few have heard of me.
I see it as a gift in many ways because there is something in us that ... It is difficult to explain.
The Bible doesn't say that to get something from Christ we need to deal with him. It is he who tells us what is our call.
We trust in him then! There is a phrase that says "join in the boat with God and return to port with him." In short, don't you dare even to start
without him, we do ours that "dying" expressed by Christ on the cross, dying to our dreams, and everything that we thought they needed ...
I wish to remain clear that God has never abused my will. It was always patient, as in fix I've often complained.
But I felt in these 12 years as say the Scriptures, that his goodness is perfect and good, I only had to align my heart
closer to Her to figure it out. I don't know where I will go, whether I'll live a humble life. Sometimes I'm tempted to believe that I'm wasting my time,
but when meeting people that we have prepared and helped, and I see that they have become men and women of God, well, then everything makes sense.
There is always someone who occasionally emerges and gives me the dumb. It will never fail, struggles and moments of sadness.
But it's also true that I will never miss the moments of joy.
Q: what message do you want to let young people who are considering the missionary field
but they think that the ideal of a successful Ministry to get important backers, convert the masses, become famous and write about themselves?
A: That they are wrong. Must give up their ambitions, to build an empire, because with or without their God's work will continue.
Many men have already fallen because of pride, which is Satan's syndrome. The madness of wanting to do things without God,
is terrible: when you decide to do things in the manner your usurping the name of Christ, is a desecration.
Therefore, so that Christ may be in you, as saying Moody "the extent of the Kingdom is in anything considered".
It's hard to explain it, because if you have a vocation, what you do will be different from what you expected.
You have to take inesperati, and places that message that Christ gave to Peter is critical, "Verily, verily I say unto you, that when you were young, you girded yourself and walked where you wanted; but when you grow old, stretch out your hands, and another will gird you and lead you where you wouldn't want '. "(John 21:18)
In short, the Ministry is this: you must only obey God, and then comes what must happen.
Look, I can't tell who has not suffered, because this knowledge gained at the age of 28 years, it was only after many hardships and struggles.
But for the grace of God, I can say: you die to yourself. Not be neither hypocrite, fake, and not think that get famous can impress God.
You might also look like pitiful, when in truth you're poor, blind, naked and miserable. A true man of God believed to give rather than receive.
When his heart is determined to conquer a Kingdom for himself, is already a victim of Satan.
A message that I can leave it: love others more than yourself, otherwise you will be useless.
Success. All of us worry with this: we want to get famous, let us know,
We claim that others devote biographies, to let us know on the other side of the ocean.
Those who want to get into a Ministry not to become famous in the world knowing that he will be any?
Those who prefer that the Ministry is occupied by people not interested in becoming idols?
Christ wish! There are men in Brazil and around the world to reflect the glory of God, willingly chosen will sacrifice fame!
People who are the true Gospel witness without giving any attention to themselves.
My message to those who are Christians but not famous, and who want to enter the Ministry, and that they are attracted by the fame and
popularity, is: look to Scripture, and considered the example of Christ. Follow the Apostles as an example, as their
not promoted themselves in order to magnify Christ. How did not bother with their own fame, and what they left behind.
look at these men as a reference to people who have preached the Gospel of Jesus and
how they gave their lives for King.
Although few have known their names, Christ was known by them.
Then the Ministry wanted to be blessed in the sight of God. Not importatevi if you were to give the failed, but worry about heavenly things.
All your suffering will be rewarded in heaven, along with the prize that Christ gives to those who
serve with the heart.
I would that all the brothers that I listen to, who are Ministers of the Gospel, are encouraged by the fact that the Lord God is immutable.
Present in any church, whether large or small, and if God exists, is a glorious Ministry, because it is God who invites us to parectipazione.
I think that in heaven there will be big surprises with those names that are great in the Earth, which could also be there ...
But those serfs who give themselves in Amazonia, they push in places undreamed of ... Well those are the men of real success!
The Ministry is not determined by the amount of people that you're hearing, but for the quality of the action of the Holy Spirit in their hearts.
Don't get discouraged if you're not under the limelight ... Be aware that the message we preach is powerful to save both Jews and Gentiles.
Preaching boldly, and believe that God will do this. And if God exists, certainly the Ministry shall be blessed.
Escape from the limelight even as if they wanted to show that you can be more important than God.
Whether you're famous, eloquent, whether you're known, none of this is important. The only important thing is that you his faithful in delivering what the word
God says, and not what we want the word of God says.
The human results are not important. Sermon and sowing the word of God. One day the Lord will reward your efforts, your comfort
heart, and we rejoice in him.
Between listening to a great preacher, unfaithful to God, but with a good rhetoric and eloquence, and listen to a simple preacher who is not very eloquent,
does not have the gift of speech, but is faithful to Scripture. Well I always listen to preferirò the second to the first.
Be faithful, preaches the word ama Scriptures, loves Christ. And you'll have success. In the eyes of God.
Some time ago I had the opportunity to hear Dr. Carson in the United States. I was very touched.
Told by his father, who had written a book: "memoirs of an ordinary Pastor" In that Conference, there were about 8000 persons there present.
Carson with great frankness told him that many of the shepherds who were listening, are pastors of small churches and anonymous,
with poor growth and does not have his own chance to speak to an audience so large.
To comfort them told him this:
"The Ministry that our Lord God will reward, isn't so much the visible fruit of Pastoral Ministry, teaching, or for evangelisation
but the Messenger will be faithful to God who will be rewarded "
The Lord God takes care of the people, because it is a sovereign God and faithful, and then takes care of his slaves. We're the remains clinging to the truth
and walk humbly before Christ, for our financial support, the Lord God will take care.
The truth is this: the Lord is not indebted to those who serve him humbly based in truth.
God does not need anything to these people: it simply takes care of them! Our family lived so for almost 10 years.
Then you have nothing to fear, because since we donated to the Ministry, you can be sure that the Lord God knows that
the name and honor of God are involved and will not allow its name suffers from delusions or stains.
He will worry that you have the support and care you need. Because God is his name and zeloso honor, so you
a privilege to serve the Lord God. And this we already know in this life, that we receive 100 times more whatever
We have left behind, but the best of all this, and in the life to come, we will be with him for eternity.
These brothers working in harsh and difficult conditions must remember what most matter: in the day when God will call us,
What will count in the end is right if there was this sense of submission and faithfulness to the Gospel message.
If these are true brothers and are seeking the help and God's presence in their Ministry, as well as the word says,
urging and invoking (with a spirit Bereano) people to repentance, these people will be blessed,
and should rejoice because it is just that what the Lord wants from them.
Be faithful, you who serve the Lord. When their aim is the glory of God, the good of the Church and the salvation of sinners, this
can draw various consequences: can first define the implementation of Ministry.
You can find a face with others who don't have the same motivation and can be tricky. But we must remember that it is more important to be
approved by God that by men. It is important to be like God rather than men. Be faithful, and God will bless you for eternity.
Serving God is the most spectacular thing of this world. If your leader is God, your benefits and your retirement will be from another world!
Worth it! A hug.