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It is the Brigade of the Tiger !
Somebody wanted to add something or we take at once a 2nd
question I do not see much
are there hands which get up ?
Yes, over there...
Wait maybe for a microphone unless you extremely speak loudly
Good evening,
Erick Mary of the Popular Union Republican,
the French resistance those who think that it is going to need to go out of
the European Union by the article 50 quickly
and that this construction has no future.
then first question: "In a democracy in the day
of today there should be taboo subjects ?"
The second question:
Why there is no eurosceptic
on this plateau,
to discuss with you ?
Bernard-Henri Lévy
Because it is not...
we can discuss somewhere else and I believe that each of those who are here one
the habit to discuss,
but this evening it was no debate,
This evening it was an appointment,
it was a first appointment which will be followed by the others,
and the next ones will not be appointments on invitation as this evening
they will be meeting
popular,
on the initiative of Arte,
but it was an appointment that gave themselves women and men
who think
that go out of Europe
would be
more poverty,
more unemployment,
more misfortunes, more chaos,
and that it was necessary
blow the whistle.
The meeting of this evening, it is the fruit
of a text
which is appeared
in the newspaper Le Monde, in El Pais, in the Corriere della Serra,
in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung dans l'esprit scène, dans
the Aftenposten of Oslo,
of European intellectuals
worried
to see this beautiful European fancy,
which was one so
strong
and big
utopia
Becoming commonplace and maybe collapsing.
I was very struck by listening to both girls
who came to join us just now.
I was struck at first by
essentially,
at first by the relevance of their questions,
and by their bilingualism absolved.
Did they say us that they were Spanish?
They spoke French
as Julia,
Émilie,
or me.
Thus they are European born...
They are European born...
Europe is most probably,
if I believe what I understood,
the... the air which they inhaled,
their native place.
They did not need to become European,
they were her at once.
An in the same time,
It is exactly it and it is what I wanted to say just now, 0:03:21.290,0:03:25.229 it was not the story of the youth against the least young,
I believe not that the politics is discussed in term of... takes place
in terms of generation.
Picasso said my dear Umberto, who had needed for him for 80 years and
few
which had needed for him for a very long time to become young,
and when I think I of the young German intellectuals today,
of the German scene,
The first names which occur me,
young German intellectuals,
turbulent, rebel, always loans to rebel, always ready to demonstrate
their solidarity both younger than I find, there is no younger there,
it is Hanz Risterbourg
and Peter Schneider.
And it has been 35 years since that thus lasts,
It is no youth story all this.
But on the other hand,
the problem which is much more symptomatic,
it is because probably that when we are European one was born,
we forgot the fragility of Europe.
We forgot that the rock is not
this state of affairs,
this established fact
about which I spoke just now by beginning.
We forgot that Europe
is a, is a fight,
is a fight,
and something as the democracy,
which is never finished and which is always about of...
To sink into the nothingness.
And that it is what struck me miss in... I regret that
you ha... Whom you are not any more there moreover because yes but it is
what struck me, it is at the same time the obvious fact of your
being
european,
and at the same time probably
the fact...
je ne suis pas sûre que vous mesuriez je ne sais pas où vous êtes, là
voilà
I am not sure that you measure I do not know where you are, there
which has you
wich is wich is for you a such obvious fact it is
Maybe collapsing. If the neo-Nazis take it
really
in Hungary,
if we continue to treat Greek as dogs,
while they are the cradle of the European civilization,
If Berlusconi returns to the power, not having said
that there was only of the bad
At Berlusconi... h'm... at Mussolini...
At Mussolini.
If in France
we continue to make as if
h'm... if we continue to play lying Europe... [Erick Mary] If in Latvia has continuous
to do
every years
the big tribute in waffen ss without anybody not...
not find to criticize at the level of the union there. [BHL] Absolutely, Absolutely...
It is a scandal every year, every March 15th. [BHL] But my dear friend 10 years ago,
there was a big affair in France.
The city hall of Paris
proposed
to an artist
anti-semite
to create a monument it was ten or twelve years ago, I do not know how any more
his name,
to create a monument
to the memory in homage to the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen.
There was a mobilization citizen to prevent it from it
In the name exactly values so with difficulty acquired of Europe.
Thus all this,
it is what I want to speak when I speak about this obsession
who has to live the, the... the future builders of Europe
And I shall remember his last word...
[Erick Mary] Without wanting to play the troublemakers,
just you spoke about fight, it has been sixty years since we undergo the propaganda
europeanist
without being exactly able to fight.
There is nobody, there is nobody who was able to come
since the pcf in fact in the 50s on a television studio set for a moment
given
Give the tone of those who are against the European construction and who
Refuse, then just to finish and really I am going to release the
microphone because I am not there to raise problems,
you told me,
very soon, you will accept the debates you would be ready to
accept in front of this public
a meeting with François Asselineau and to discuss yourself with
François Asselineau,
who is maybe the best eurosceptic today in France
and in Europe...
In the first place, it is inaccurate that we do not hear the opponents of
the Europe.
[Erick Mary] Please when it is Nicolas Dupont-Aignan who comes to make the puppet theater it is not the effort... [ BHL] We hear them ceaselessly every
time when Marine Lepen speaks... [Erick Mary] But Marine Lepen is not against Europe,
she is not to go out of it... [BHL] She is fundamentally anti-Europe.
[Erick Mary] She eats it !
And what makes for me and what saddens me most
it is the same step as we hear so often and even rather constantly
the opponents of Europe,
it is because the partisans of Europe are so shy.
I remember myself at the time of the vote for the constit... in France
for the European constitution,
for the yes, or for the no,
it yes which took it to one if bare majority...
What most struck me,
it is because those who voted not,
in France...
[ Erick Mary] Somewhere else we did not ask and everywhere where we asked it was no,
has nobody there who voted yes !
[ BHL] Yes... those who voted no, those who voted no
had a no
in certainly auric, categorical, to argue, those who voted yes
had a yes,
hardly asserted shy yes,
and the speech of the partisans of yes
never was to say :
" We are going to build a new political object,
an absolute fancy,
which is going to lead the peoples towards a peace and a new prosperity
[Erick Mary] Barroso made it recently, he said : "The European construction is
the first not imperial empire which was built. "
[Moderating influence] Go, we go... the idea is not that are established... [BHL] I end my sentence, the speech
from the partisans of Europe
was a speech which consisted in saying that it was good for their own
nation. [Moderating influence] Go but we have it... please, go...
Let us stay calm, let us continue this discussion,
you wanted to intervene, we are going to restore you a microphone...