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dhamma are also from uts arena is with us sir my prostate incorrectly that
break or offering a parade you're the president of the oakland police officers
association hope he always dot org is the website
and i understand you crafted this letter that is on your website
uh... that says we need the starts out we were present the six hundred forty
five police officers who work hard everyday tipper protect the citizens of
oakland
to are the ninety nine percent fighting for better working conditions
fair treatment
and the ability to provide a link for our children our families we're severely
under staffed with many city beecher many unprotected by police
during the day and evening hours then goes on from there to essentially
criticize them there for putting you guys in the position
where was described as a police riot happened tuesday night in the eighties
all accurate this point
dockets are
so uh...
the first of all what's the position what's your position the position the
oakland police officers
association
on on
on what happens to houston and what the possibly justify the use of tear gas
tank there is a seven people the brooklyn bridge
they need your guys to do that
you know i wasn't out there that night
the riot like biking in of explained why the in a justification was made people
utilize you know tear gassed but
um... you know from what i understand um... there was a lot of iraq's involved
are being brought up police officers and i don't know charger for earlier was
there who said that yes there were a few protesters who were throwing
estate water bottles that they had been drinking at the police which
i think we all deplore abut is that really justified rubber bullets which
can be nothing kitchen the right place kill your take your eye out flash
grenades and jerry asked you know i quyet but maybe we didn't know why they
did what they did because i was about their at that time
ania local police officers suspicions now taking a position on that
now we're not going to criticize group target into the discussion about the
tactic you that night uh... we won't look quite frankly what about that for
those tactics
the
the decision
to use those tactics with those made on the spot by the police officers were
those made by the mayor's office in much of your much of your letter
points out and i think that this is one of the things that
you know from from the vietnam era today that that particular when people think
of you know people might be opposed to foreign wars or supportive of them for
that matter that it's not it's not the soldiers and this is a few bad apples in
every group right then we can all got a acknowledge that the typically is not
the soldiers who are uh... responsible for the war it's not generally speaking
the police department is responsible for the action that they're taking is the
civilian government this is this is the the greatness of america that
our military or police are under the jurisdiction of the civilian jackie that
that ordered it and this
it sounds to me like in your letter you're basically saying merco on you
know what the hell is going on here
so you're right i meet you at your your hat
the manila said when you when you talk about you know what to do for
please officers they're just doing their job
um... you know but we kind of feel like we've been placed in this really bad
position
alone with no win situation now we've been silent the whole time on this issue
and then um... the media and the politician pat is kinda painted the
picture and put the file in which is beria there
complete officers especially ferment of world women that represent your complete
apartment of they've been depicted poorly
um... and uh... it doesn't represent howell you know what we do here this is
a city of oakland
uh... we have a tough
yeah uh... high crime rate uh... leader uh... hard-nosed
uh... complete officers to have to deal with stuff every day and our main focus
is community policing came to deal with um... uh... issued within the community
working with the community now because it the community policing quote on quote
like that the right thing to do it because we have to do it we have we
don't have any cops weekend we need or we did a a abotu the compel political
that that are that
who we are as good as the president he'll come please us associations is a
c_n_n_ there is this a nineteen-year organization
this is a a t
but they put up an appreciation it's about the united part like that are you
guys unionized
but we are told an association only okay so there's not there's not that the
other police departments are part of photo session with l_c_i_ or anything
like that
the graphic artist just curious um... what do you say the folks who say you
know one and police violence happens and people say i was just following orders
uh... we heard that song back in the forties nobody nobody took it seriously
after the fact infects people at home for that
obviously there's the scale was wildly different but it's just something that
doesn't fly with americans generally i mean we've got you got a guy in the
hospital with brain damage as a result of the violence is perpetrated by the
local police department
okay pool what what what my response to
all that yet but okay
solve one thing is not a basically but were quite quickly this it it my
question of how do we get there
how do we get to the spot anymore than what we've been bareback help the water
what what caused but to get to where we work right
and and and backward if you look at that point in history
our current sure and we should never popular plication we should have never
been in this position
and we should admit for the police should have never been placed in this
type of position
and there are ways
departure of the country that are actually refusing to do it i believe it
was a little thing about it in pittsburgh of the day before or perhaps
as the day after last week uh... the you guys had your problem oakland
that at where the mayor said they're going to go to park in the police she
said no you know finally seeing yeah about would be going out now and all
your politics played everything down to get out there on par thoroughly
government you know
we don't want to get
you know the political spotlight like oakland did and uh... and you thought
everyone point out
smell unfortunately for everybody you know that now the thing that they have
taken uh... bought them in the company elkton
and there would have to deal with the people calling and uh... that would
problem agree to our reporter
is that we're not trying to uh...
uh... complete reprisal we do uh... we we are just write a book we're just
trying to do our job out here a week you-know-who we should be looked at as
that
email public servant
thirties doing work told to do
um... you know when people when when people are exercising their
their first memorized to peaceably assemble
and petition the government for just a grievance
wishes you know right there in the first amendment
armed and shoot you an installation is up and show some of the riverboat
well which which can kill
did you think this is the first prototype we had no plan
now we have all the time
we've had put that they're all the time and not not not a situation that a
attention like this brokers sold his soul so why this why now
it's it's about how we got here
it's about how what what prompted her to get through this division
i think there was a uh... a lot of poor uh...
tactic in the you know we
other studios looking was the police department directors
to be there in the way imu at that level of force and given the permission to
escalation level force that they did
by civilian officials by deanna since antenna or by gene quantum error
uh... or
was there a more general order like clear the park and all those decisions
are made by the place
by people who work at all or
and then that would have been things were carried out by the police
department ok so
that sells
to me like really an indictment of your internal policies the police department
bought our armed i'm not going to buddy my i_q_ you're talking about bumpin that
you do you want that i wasn't there we don't know what was
um... you can report your going off beckett information a lot going on in
the hospital you know and which is another day of the semester and i guess
you fill the mentioned that there's seven please talk to the injury law
do you know that no i did not know that pretend that we thought we were injured
what were they already injured friday they were hit by rocks bottle umpc some
paper kar daram
um... yaar anything i don't know what they must last
but no they were talking to us
but let me ask you a question or at what point do we do we take note of that
well i don't know i would say no that's going to get sweep up through the come
his active target the people and then we just
duplicate
i mean i felt you shouldn't and he shouldn't have to i'm dealing with you
on that but as you know and and i would say that this is the laws and that
every movement needs to learn is to look at what martin luther king in those
folks to die in summer when they stood there in the please turn dogs on the
minturn fire hoses on them and they didn't throw a rock they stood there and
took a and that demonstrated a moral high ground is where i think everybody
needs to be claiming the moral high ground right now
comes down on several fronts on the machine starts i don't find alternate
alive even before i leave you jacket if you have a defector out how you would
have a look at the *** yeah that's a very very good conversation