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HI THERE, AND WELCOME, WELCOME
TO HOMEKEEPERS, AND I'M SO GLAD
TO BE HERE, AND I AM SO GLAD YOU
ARE THERE, AND IF YOU HAVE NEVER
SEEN THE PROGRAM BEFORE, AND WE
ARE GLAD YOU ARE THERE AND THAT
IT WILL NOT BE THE LAST TIME
AND WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF VIEWERS
EVERYDAY AND ALL OVER THE
UNITED STATES, AND YOU ARE LOVED
AND I PRAY THAT THE LORD IS
BLESSING YOU IN A BIG WAY. AND
GOD HAS SURPRISES AS YOU GO
THROUGH LIFE, AND MY FRIEND MARK
CULLIGAN CALLED ME A FEW DAYS
AGO AND HE SAID THERE WAS A
COUPLE ON VACATION; I THINK YOU
WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH THEM
AND IT WAS ON A DAY THAT WANDA
IS USUALLY NOT HERE, AND I'M
GONE FOR MOST OF THE DAY, BUT
SOMETHING SAID FOLLOW THROUGH
AND I DID, AND I MET STEVEN AND
IRENE BENNETT, AND I MEAN THEIR
STORY IS JUST ONE THAT WILL
STOP YOU IN YOUR TRACKS AND I'M
SO GLAD THEY HAVE STOPPED BY AND
I BELIEVE THEY CAME BY TO
MINISTER TO A LOT OF YOU. AND
STEVEN WAS IN A HOMOSEXUAL
LIFESTYLE FOR MANY YEARS AND GOD
HAS COMPLETELY DELIVERED HIM AND
HE IS MARRIED, AND HE IS GOT A
WONDERFUL FAMILY. AND MORE THAN
THAT, YOU CAN TELL THAT GOD HAS
ANOINTED HIM FOR THE MINISTRY
AND HE IS SO ARTICULATE, AND HE
IS SO ABLE TO SAY WHAT NEEDS TO
BE SAID WITHOUT THEM, WITHOUT
ANY COMPROMISE AND BEFORE YOU
DO, AND I WANT OFF YOU A BOOK
THAT WE HAVE GIVEN TO YOU
BEFORE, A PARENTS GUIDE TO
PREVENTING HOMOSEXUALITY, AND AS
I SAY WE HAVE OFFERED IT BEFORE
FOR THE GIFT OF AT LEAST $25 FOR
THE SHIPPING AND THE HANDLING
ANWILL SEND THAT TO YOU AND
AFTER YOU HEAR HIM, I THINK YOU
WANT THE BOOK AND HE WILL GIVE
YOU SOME INSIGHT INTO HIS
CHILDHOOD, AND SOME OF THE
DYNAMICS AND THE FAMILY PROBLEMS
THAT MIGHT TURN A CHILD TO THIS
LIFESTYLE, AND A NEED THAT IS
NOT MET, AND WE ARE FEARFULLY
AND WONDERFULLY MADE, AND IF
YOU WANT THE BOOK YOU CAN USE
YOUR CREDIT CARD AND CALL THE
TELEPHONE NUMBER ON YOUR SCREEN.
AND YOU CAN WRITE TO
HOMEKEEPERS AT THE POST OFFICE
BOX ON YOUR SCREEN. AND NOW I
WANT YOU TO HEAR AND TO MEET
THESE GOOD PEOPLE OF STOPPED BY
THE HOMEKEEPERS PROGRAM AND WE
HAVE GOT STEVEN AND IRENE
BENNETT AND LISTEN TO WHAT THEY
HAD TO SAY.
>> ♪
>>AND I WANT TO WELCOME YOU GOOD
PEOPLE TO HOMEKEEPERS, AND I'M
SO GLAD THIS HAS WORKED OUT. AND
THIS WAS REALLY ON THE FLY,
AND WHAT CAN YOU SAY? AND THESE
PEOPLE ARE FROM CONNECTICUT, AND
THEY ARE ENJOYING FLORIDA, AND I
THINK THIS IS NOT AN ACCIDENT AT
ALL THAT YOU ARE HERE. AND YOUR
STORY, AND WE HAVE DEALT WITH
THIS, AND WITH THE SUBJECT OF
HOMOSEXUALITY ON THE PROGRAM A
FEW TIMES. AND I WOULD LIKE FOR
YOU, TO GIVE US YOUR STORY, IN A
NUTSHELL.
>> AND I WAS GAY FOR MANY
YEARS, AND I STRUGGLED FOR MOST
OF MY LIFE UNTIL I WAS 28 AND I
DID NOT GROW UP CHRISTIAN, I DID
NOT GROW UP IN A CHRISTIAN HOME,
AND I CAME OUT AS I WAS DAY,
WHEN I WAS 18, AND IT WAS THE
1980S AND IT WAS STILL A LITTLE
THE TABOO, BUT NOW IT IS
ACCEPTED AND EVEN ELEVATED AND
CELEBRATED AND BACK THEN, IT WAS
NOT BUT I DEALT WITH A LOT OF
ISSUES IN MY LIFE, AND I GREW UP
IN A WEALTHY HOME, AND MY FATHER
INVENTED THINGS, MY FATHER
INVENTED A LOCK FOR THE
TAPE MEASURE, MY FATHER,
EVERYBODY USES THOSE, AND MY
FATHER WAS A GREAT MAN, HE WAS A
VERY SMART MAN AND WE HAD A
WONDERFUL LIFE. ON THE OTHER
SIDE MY FATHER WAS AN
ALCOHOLIC. AND HE WAS A
FUNCTIONING ALCOHOLIC AND MY
MOTHER BEGAN TO DRINK AND SHE
DID NOT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING,
AND MY FATHER, AND I
DID NOT KNOW MY FATHER
EMOTIONALLY AND MY MOTHER BECAME
MY MOTHER AND MY FATHER AND I
WAS THE OLDEST OF THREE CHILDREN
AND I GRAVITATED TO MY MOTHER
AND WOMEN AND GIRLS GROWING UP,
AND I DID NOT KNOW WHAT IT WAS
SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE WITH A BOY,
AND MY FATHER NEVER TAUGHT ME
HOW TO PLAY FOOTBALL, OR ANY OF
THOSE GAMES, AND WITH MY MOTHER,
IT WAS JUST ME, AND I WAS A
NERD, AND BEFORE THAT WAS EVEN
OUT THERE, I USED TO HAVE THE
BIG THICK GLASSES, AND HAIR GEL
AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS,
>> AND YOU HAD THREE STRIKES,
>> AND I WAS MADE FUN OF FROM
THE BEGINNING AND I WAS CALLED
***, ***, SISSY,
AND I REALLY STRUGGLED WITH IT
I WAS, AS A BOY, AND ABOUT WHEN
THE PUBERTY KICKED IN, AND THE
BOYS WERE LOOKING AT THE GIRLS,
AND IT WAS AN ATTRACTION, I WAS
LOOKING AT THE GUYS AND I DID
NOT KNOW WHAT WAS WRONG WITH ME
AND SOMETHING WAS NOT RIGHT,
AND I ALWAYS HAD THAT REJECTION
FROM MY FATHER, HE TOLD ME I WAS
NO GOOD, I WOULD NEVER BE
ANYTHING, AND THAT WAS THE
ALCOHOL TALKING AND I TRIED TO
DATE GIRLS, AND I TRIED TO MAKE
MY WAY THROUGH IT, AND I FOUND
OUT THAT MANY OF MY GIRLFRIENDS
WERE VERY MUCH LIKE MY MOTHER
AND THEY WERE STRONG, AND WITH A
DIRTY MOUTH, AND REALLY ROUGH
AND TOUGH AND I DID NOT WANT TO
DATE MY MOTHER, LIKE A BIKER
CHICK, AND I WANTED A SOFT
WOMAN AND THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.
AND SOMETHING HAPPENED,
TRAGICALLY, AND WHEN I WAS IN
THE SIXTH GRADE, AND I NEVER USE
THE WORD MOLESTED, BUT I SLEPT
OVER AT HER HOUSE, AND JUST TO
BE UP FRONT, AND I FOUND A GUY
ON TOP OF ME AND I WAS AFRAID TO
RESPOND OR SAY ANYTHING AND THAT
IS NOT WHAT PUSHED ME, BUT IT
HELPED TO BRING ME DOWN THE
PATHWAY AND I CAME OUT WHEN I
WAS 18 IN COLLEGE AS A GAY MAN.
>> AND YOU DID NOT HAVE A
CHRISTIAN BACKGROUND, THE
UPBRINGING, AND WAS THERE
SOMETHING, THE BIBLE SAYS, AND
THE LAW OF GOD IS WRITTEN ON
OUR HEART, THE CAN YOU
SAY, IN YOUR HEART,
>> AND I KNEW IT WAS WRONG, AND
I KNEW IT WAS WRONG.
>> BUT YOUR WHOLE SCENARIO, IT
IS SUCH A PATTERN AND THIS IS
WHY PARENTS, AND THEY NEED TO
CALL INSIDE OF THE KIDS AND SEE
WHAT THEY SEE. AND YOU'VE GOT A
MINISTRY TO ADDRESS THAT NOW?
>> AND YES, AND WE HAVE GOT THE
PARENTS, IS AN ONLINE SUPPORT
GROUP, AND FOR THE PARENTS AND
THE CHILDREN THAT HAVE GONE INTO
THE LIFESTYLE AND THEY ARE
BELIEVING AND PERHAPS THEIR
CHILD IS GOING TOWARDS THAT
DIRECTION, AND IF YOU REALLY
KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR, AND YOU
CAN SEE THIS HAPPENING IN THE
YOUNG CHILDREN, AND YOU CAN TAKE
SOME THINGS TO PREVENT THIS,
AND THE CHILDREN CANNOT HELP
THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY DO NOT
UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON,
THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY
ARE FEELING WHAT THEY ARE
FEELING, AND IF THERE IS
DIFFICULTY, DIVORCE AND THE
HOME, FIGHTING, AND IF THE
FATHER IS NOT THERE, AND THEY DO
NOT KNOW HOW TO DO WITH ALL OF
THE STRESS AND THEY USUALLY WILL
KEEP IT INSIDE, AND ESPECIALLY
IF THEY GROW UP IN A CHRISTIAN
HOME, AND THEY FIND THESE
FEELINGS, THEY DO NOT COME OUT
BECAUSE NOBODY IN THE CHURCH
TALKS ABOUT IT AND THEY FEEL
LIKE, IF I TOLD THE PASTOR, HE
WOULD THINK I AM A TERRIBLE
PERSON, THEY IT KEEP INSIDE,
AND THEY SAY LORD
TAKE IT AWAY, TAKE IT AWAY.
>> AND THIS IS AN
ONLINE THE MINISTRY?
>> AND YOU CAN CALL
UP THE OFFICE.
>> AND WERE GOING TO BE PUTTING
UP YOUR WEBSITE, AND IF YOU HAVE
JUST TUNED IN, AND I'M TALKING
WITH STEVEN AND IRENE BENNETT
AND I DO NOT KNOW WHERE AND IN
ALL OF THESE YEARS, I'VE BEEN ON
TV, THAT I REALLY BELIEVE THAT
OUR LIVES HAVE INTERSECTED AT
THE LAST MINUTE, FOR THEM TO BE
ON THE AIR. AND YOU JUST GAVE
THE BEST, I'VE HEARD, IT IS SO
CONCISE, AND IF THERE IS AN
AVERAGE AND NORMAL, AND FOR
SOMEBODY THAT IS FINDING
YOURSELF IN THAT STATE. AND AT
WHAT POINT AND DID YOU MEET
JESUS CHRIST AND THAT PUT THE
WHEELS IN MOTION AND THAT GAVE
YOU WHAT IT IS CALLED
A WONDERFUL LIFE?
>> AND WHEN I CAME OUT OF 18, I
WENT TO THE HOMOSEXUAL LIFESTYLE
FOR 11 YEARS, AND I WAS A
*** DEALER, AND BULIMIC,
BULIMIA, ALCOHOLIC, AND I WAS
MESSED UP, BIG TIME AND I WAS
OVER WITH 100 MEN SEXUALLY, AND
MANY OF THEM ARE DEAD BY AIDS
AND I WAS IN A RELATIONSHIP,
AND I THOUGHT I WAS IN LOVE WITH
HIM, AND A VERY GOOD FRIEND OF
MINE, A CHRISTIAN, IRENE'S BEST
FRIEND, SHE CAME TO MY DOOR AND
SHE WANTED TO TALK TO ME ABOUT
JESUS AND ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY.
>> AND THAT WAS A GUTSY GIRL.
>> AND HER NAME WAS CATHY,
>> AND GOD BLESS CATHY.
>> AND SHE TOLD ME FOR ABOUT 45
MINUTES, AND SHE GAVE ME MANY
SCRIPTURES, AND SHE TOLD ME
THAT THE UNRIGHTEOUS WILL NOT
INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD, AND
DO NOT BE DECEIVED, AND IT WAS
A LAUNDRY LIST, THE DRUNKARDS,
THE MURDERERS, AND IT GOES ON,
THE ALCOHOLIC, AND I FIT MANY
OF THOSE, AND IT SAYS, AND
SUCH WERE SOME OF YOU, NOW YOU
ARE CHANGED, AND SANCTIFIED, BY
THE SPIRIT OF GOD, AND THAT
AGAIN, I CHANGED FOR THE
NEXT YEAR AND A HALF, REALLY
READING THE WORD OF GOD, AND MY
PARTNER WAS IN THE BED, HE WOULD
DOING HIS SITUPS, AND I WOULD BE
READING MY BIBLE, AND I DID NOT
UNDERSTAND IT.
>> AND THAT WOULD BE A FUNNY
PICTURE.
>> AND YES, SHE GAVE THE WORD OF
GOD AND BEGAN TO CHANGE ME FROM
THE INSIDE OUT AND FAITH COMES
BY HEARING AND HEARING BY THE
WORD OF GOD, AND ABOUT A YEAR
LATER, I FOUND MYSELF ON THE
BATHROOM FLOOR, OF THE
APARTMENT, I WAS CRYING OUT FOR
FORGIVENESS, TO A GOD I DID NOT
KNOW AND I PRAYED WITH KATHY ON
THE TELEPHONE, AND IT WAS A
JOURNEY, IT WAS NOT A QUICK
THING, AND I GAVE MY HEART TO
THE LORD, IN JANUARY OF 1992,
AND I MADE A RECONCILIATION WITH
MY FATHER AND I STRUGGLED FOR A
SHORT TIME, BUT I KNEW THAT
THERE WAS A MAN IN MY LIFE AND I
HATED HIM MORE THAN ANYTHING BUT
I LOVED HIM, AND IF I WAS GOING
TO BE MOVING ON, I WANTED A
PARTNER AND I WANTED TO BE, AND
I WANTED A WIFE AND CHILDREN BUT
I KNEW I NEEDED TO RECONCILE THE
ISSUE. AND I CONFRONTED MY
FATHER ONE DAY, HE WAS NOT
DRINKING, AND I SAID, WHY DID
YOU TELL ME I WAS STUPID AND I
WAS 28, AND FOR THE FIRST TIME
MY FATHER OPENED UP AND WE
TALKED AND HE SAID I LOVE YOU
MORE THAN ANYTHING, YOU MY
FIRSTBORN, AND WHAT KILLED ME,
AND WE DO BORN, YOUR MOTHER AND
GRANDFATHER CHOSE TO NAMED AFTER
MY GRANDFATHER AND HIS NAME WAS
STEVE AND MY FATHER WANTED ME TO
BE NAMED AFTER HIM, AND ROBERT.
AND HE SAID WHEN YOU WERE NOT
NAMED AFTER ME, I THOUGHT IT WAS
A CONSPIRACY I HAD NO MONEY AND
YOU BECAME YOUR MOTHER AND
GRANDFATHER CHILD, AND WHEN YOU
WERE BORN, AND I SAID YOU
BELONGED
AND HE SAID THERE WAS NOTHING
TO DO
AND I SAID THERE'S NOTHING YOU
CAN DO? AND FOR THE FIRST TIME
I UNDERSTOOD, AND I SAID DON'T
EVER PUT ME DOWN, AND DON'T CALL
ME NAMES, AND I'LL SAY THAT I'M
NOT GOOD, AND I WILL LOVE YOU
UNTIL THE DAY YOU DIE, AND WE
HUGGED, AND HE KISSED ME, HE
WHISPERED TO ME, I LOVE YOU, AND
THAT WAS THE BREAKING POINT.
AND I WAS ENGAGED TO IRENE, ONE
YEAR LATER, AND WE'VE BEEN
MARRIED FOR 18 YEARS, AND WE
HAVE GOT TWO BEAUTIFUL KIDS, AND
THE GRACE OF GOD, AND FOR
EVERYBODY, I DO NOT STRUGGLE
WITH HOMOSEXUALITY WHATSOEVER
AND I WAS LOOKING FOR THE LOVE
OF MY FATHER NOT SEXUALLY IN THE
ARMS OF OTHER MEN. AND I MIGHT
NOT BE THE MOST MASCULINE PERSON
AND I ADMIT THAT BUT I'M A MAN
IN THE EYES OF GOD AND FOR MY
WIFE AND FOR MY KIDS, AND I AM
COMFORTABLE AND GOD HAS TAKEN MY
STORE AND IT WAS A NIGHTMARE,
AND NOW IS A FAIRYTALE AND GOD
HAS THAT SAME HOPE, AND I'M
NOBODY SPECIAL, AND WHAT GOD DID
FOR ME HE CAN COMPLETELY AND NOT
PARTIALLY AND HE CAN COMPLETELY
TRANSFORM ANYBODY WHO WILL GIVE
THEIR LIFE TO HIM AND THIS IS
THE HOPE THAT WE ARE BRINGING TO
PEOPLE AND PROCLAIMING THE WORD.
AND HOMOSEXUALS CAN BE
COMPLETELY CHANGED BY THE POWER
OF JESUS CHRIST AND WE'VE AND
PREACHING IT FOR 11 YEARS, AND
UNTIL THE DAY WE DIE.
>> AND LORD WILLING, AND YOU
PUT A LOAD ON THIS, AND I WANT
TO TALK WITH KATHY, AND SHE
GAVE YOU A HUGE THEOLOGICAL
LOAD.
AND YOU DID NOT KNOW WHAT HIS
SALVATION WAS?
>> BUT IF ANYBODY KNOWS ME, THIS
IS WHAT I NEEDED, AND SHE
WHACKED ME OVER THE HEAD WITH
THE BIBLE AND I TELL YOU, AND I
TOOK TWO STEPS FORWARD, ONE STEP
BACKWARD, THAT IS KATHY, AND
KATHY IS MY DEAREST FRIEND, AND
WE ARE BEST FRIENDS, WITH IRENE,
AND I CANNOT THANK GOD ENOUGH,
AND BECAUSE OF KATHY AND I CAME
TO CHRIST, AND IRENE LED TO
KATHY TO CHRIST,
>> AND WERE YOU AFRAID TO GET
MARRIED?
>> ABSOLUTELY NOT. NO
>> AND ON OUR WEDDING NIGHT, I
WAS NOT AFRAID OF WHAT WOULD
HAPPEN, AND I WILL BE UP FRONT,
AND WHEN I UNBUTTONED HER
DRESSED, AND I DON'T MEAN THIS
POORLY,
>> IT WAS MY WEDDING DRESS, AND
ALL OF THE BUTTONS IN THE BACK.
>> AND GOD TOOK OUR FRIENDSHIP,
AND WE HAD SUCH A WONDERFUL
FRIENDSHIP, FOR A LONG TIME, AND
HE SOLIDIFIED AT NIGHT, AND I
LOVE HER MORE
>> AND WERE YOU AFRAID TO MARY
HELLO?
>> AND NOT AT ALL, AND I WANT TO
GIVE THE TESTIMONY TO THE POWER
OF A PRAYER, AND BEFORE I MET
HIM, I WAS LIVING IN MY MOTHER'S
HOUSE AND PRAYING FOR GOD TO
GIVE ME A HUSBAND AND MANY
TIMES, I WOULD KNEEL DOWN, AND
I WOULD FEEL THE HOLY SPIRIT SO
STRONGLY TELLING ME TO PRAY FOR
THE SALVATION AND THE PROTECTION
OF MY FUTURE HUSBAND, AND TO
ASK THE LORD TO NOT ALLOW HIM TO
DIE. AND FOR MANY NIGHTS I
WOULD BE CRYING, AND I WOULD
SAY, DO NOT LET HIM DIE. AND I
THOUGHT HE WAS IN THE MILITARY,
MAYBE A POLICEMAN, OR A FIREMAN,
AND I HAD NO IDEA THAT HE WAS
ENGAGING IN DANGEROUS HOMOSEXUAL
ACTIVITY AT THE TIME. AND HE
WAS NOT EVEN SAVED
>> AND THE LORD PROTECTED HIM
AND NOW YOU HAVE TWO CHILDREN?
TEENAGERS?
>> AND HE HAD PARTNERS THAT WERE
DEAD FROM AIDS AND I SAID, NOW,
AND ALL OF MY PRAYERS MAKE SENSE
AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE MY
HUSBAND, AND HE SAID, AND WE
TALKED, THIS WAS THE LORD.
>> AND I SAID, BUT YOU DID NOT
SAY, LORD OF ALL OF THE MAN?
>> AND WE GOT ALONG SO WELL, AND
WE WERE JUST LIKE
TWO PEAS IN A POD,
>> AND LIKE BREAD AND BUTTER
AND WE ARE EVERYTHING TO EACH
OTHER.
>> AND WHY IS IT, IT SEEMS LIKE,
AND PEOPLE ENGAGE IN THIS
LIFESTYLE AND THEY WILL COME TO
THE LORD, THEY WILL FALL DOWN,
AND HOW DO YOU RENEW
THE MIND? AND TO ME, THAT IS
WHERE THE PROBLEM IS?
>> AND I DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY
IS BORN GAY, AND I DON'T BELIEVE
THAT ABLE CHOOSE TO BE GAY, AND
I BELIEVE THEY GO DOWN THAT
PATHWAY, AND WHEN YOU GO DOWN
THAT PATHWAY, AND THEY STARTED
GOING DOWN THE SIDE PATHS, AND
PEOPLE GO THROUGH DIFFERENT
THINGS, AND MY STORIES NOT
EVERYBODY STORY, AND I THANK GOD
EVERY DAY FOR MY WIFE AND MY
KIDS AND MY SALVATION AND WHAT
GOD HAS DONE FOR ME, THERE ARE
PEOPLE THAT WILL STRUGGLE FOR
MANY YEARS, AND MAYBE PEOPLE
THAT MIGHT BE DELIVERED
INSTANTLY, AND I WAS NOT ONE OF
THOSE AND PEOPLE MIGHT STRUGGLE
TO THE LIST OF THEIR LIVES AND
WE NEED TO HAVE COMPASSION, AND
WE NEED TO HAVE THE MESSAGE, AND
NOBODY IS BORN GAY, AND AGAIN,
YOU SHOULD NOT BE ACCEPTED AND
CELEBRATED LIKE SOCIETY IS DOING
AND WE BELIEVE THAT
HOMOSEXUALITY IS AN OUTWARD
EXPRESSION OF AN INWARD
CONFLICT, AND NO MAN WOULD HAVE
EVER FULFILLED WHAT I WAS
LOOKING FOR AND NO MAN. THE
ONLY ONE COULD BE CHRIST AND HE
SET ME FREE.
>> AND I THINK YOUR STORY WILL
VALIDATE AND CONFIRM A GOOD
LOOK AT THE FAMILY DYNAMIC. AND
MOST PEOPLE ARE OBLIVIOUS TO
THAT, AND THEY GO ON WITH THEIR
EVERYDAY LIFE AND THEY DO NOT
KNOW WHAT THE CHILD IS GOING
THROUGH OR NOTHING, IS THE
HUGE FATHER DEFICIT IN THE
CULTURE, AND THIS IS SO
IMPORTANT, AND WHEN I SEE THE
BIBLE, AND I PUT THIS ON THE
FATHER, AND IF SATAN GOES
AFTER ANYBODY, IT IS GOING TO BE
THE FATHER, AND EVEN WITH
GIRLS, AND IF THEY DO NOT HAVE
THAT CONNECTION WITH THEIR
FATHER AND THEY CAN GO DOWN TO
DEPRESSION, THEY CAN GOING TO
PROMISCUITY, SAME-SEX, AND ALL
OF THE STATISTICS THAT WE HAVE
THAT ARE HEARTBREAKING, NOW THE
GRANDMOTHER, THEY ARE RAISING
FAR MORE THAN 1 MILLION CHILDREN
IN THE SOCIETY AND I HEARD ONE
OF THEM ON 60 MINUTES, AND SHE
SAID I COULD BE A MOTHER AND I
CANNOT BE A FATHER. AND THIS IS
WHERE AND DO YOU AGREE? AND
THE BULK OF THE PROBLEM IS?
>> AND YES, IT HAS TO DO WITH
THE BRINGING OF THE CHILDREN,
WITH A MOTHER AND FATHER, AND WE
DON'T WANT TO PUT THE BLAME ON
THE PARENTS, AND IF THERE IS
BLAME, AND YOU CAN BE FORGIVEN
AND MOVE ON, AND IRENE IS
SPEAKING OUT, AND SHE IS TAKING
OVER THE MINISTRY, AND SHE IS
DEALING WITH MOTHERS AND FATHERS
AND SHE IS SPEAKING TO CHURCHES,
AND WOMEN'S GROUPS ON HOW TO
PREVENT HOMOSEXUALITY IN THE
LIVES OF YOUNG CHILDREN AND WE
DEFINITELY WANT TO SAY, AND IF
THERE ARE PASTORS WHO NEED US
AND WE WANT TO BE TRAVELING.
>> AND YES, ABSOLUTELY.
>> AND YES, AND MY WIFE IS SUCH
A PHENOMENAL SPEAKER, AND WE
WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE
SOCIETY, AND GAY, IS NOT OBEY.
AND WE NEED TO LOVE THE
INDIVIDUAL, BUT YOU DO NOT WANT
TO LOVE THE SIN, AND WE NEED TO
REALIZE, AND HOMOSEXUALITY IS
SIN, THEY DO NOT WANT TO SAY IT,
BUT THAT IS THE WORD OF GOD.
>> AND I'M GOING TO BE GETTING
LETTERS.
>> AND I DID NOT WRITE THE
BIBLE, AND WE ARE BRINGING A
MESSAGE, IT IS A MESSAGE OF
HOPE, AND I AM ONE OF THEM AND I
AM ONE OF THE COUNTLESS NUMBERS
OF PEOPLE THAT ARE BEEN SAID
EVERYBODY POWER OF JESUS CHRIST.
AND THIS IS AVAILABLE TO
ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO BE SEEN
IT.
>> AND I WANT TO SAY TO THE
CHURCH LEADERS THAT ARE
WATCHING, AND WHATEVER, AND GET
THE WEBSITE, AND IF YOU DO NOT
HAVE A COMPUTER, YOU CAN CALL ME
AND I WILL SPEAK WITH YOU
PERSONALLY AND TELL YOU HOW TO
GET A HOLD OF THE PEOPLE, AND I
HAVE INTERVIEWED SO MANY PEOPLE,
AND SO MANY GREAT PEOPLE, BUT
THIS GUY, AND YOU ARE BLOWING ME
AWAY, AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW.
>> AND I COULD HAVE NEVER DONE
THIS ON MY OWN.
>> AND YOU ARE SO ARTICULATE,
AND YOUR STORY AND WHAT KIND OF
PARENTS, AND I MEAN, AND WHAT
KIND OF TAKES DO YOU REPLAY? AND
WITH YOUR SON?
>> AND I DO THE OPPOSITE OF
EVERYTHING MY FATHER DID.
>> AND DADDY DID THAT, YOU WILL
DO THIS.
>> AND IRENE, AND WHAT IS THE
WORD?
>> NURTURING?
>> AND I'M THEIR PLAYMATE, AND I
WENT TO THE MALL, AND THEY
WANTED SOMETHING, I LOVE THE
KIDS MORE THAN ANYTHING, AND MY
KIDS WILL KNOW, EVEN FOR ME AND
MY WIFE, AND WE LOVE THEM
COMPLETELY, AND WE NEVER PUT OUR
CHILDREN DOWN, EVER, AND WE
ENCOURAGE THEM, AND WE BUILD
THEM UP, AND THIS IS NOTHING
PHONY AND MY SON HAS CONFIDENCE
LIKE YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE, AND
I PUT THEM TO SLEEP EVERY NIGHT
AND I ROCK THEM IN MY ARMS, AND
I PLAY WITH HIM.
>> AND WE JOKE WITH HIM
AND HE WOULD GIGGLE.
>> AND THERE IS A BABY, AND THE
BABY LOVES THE STRONGER BODY AND
THE STRONGER BONE STRUCTURE AND
I HAVE WATCHED IT, AND WITH
NEWBORNS, AND WITH THE ARMS OF
THE FATHER AND THERE IS
SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT THAT.
>> AND I HAVE MY FRIEND, KATHY,
SHE BOUGHT ME TO CHRIST, AND I
NAMED THE BABY AFTER HER, AND
SHE IS A LITTLE BEAUTIFUL ARTSY
GIRL, BLOND, BLUE-EYED, AND
BESIDES THAT, SHE HAS THE SPIRIT
OF CHRIST, AND THIS IS JUST
INCREDIBLE AND SHE IS A PRISSY
LITTLE GIRL, BLAKE, AND HE IS A
POWERFUL AND A MASCULINE AND
BASKETBALL, AND CONFIDENT,
FOOTBALL,
>> AND HE IS A LEADER IN THE
CLASS AND PEOPLE LOOK UP TO HIM
HE LOVES THE LORD.
>> AND WE ARE SO BLESSED BY GOD,
AND WE WANT PARENTS TO COME TO
THE TABLE AND BRING THESE THINGS
AND ABSOLUTELY. AND WE FEEL FOR
SOMEBODY MAYBE A SINGLE-PARENT,
THEY'RE DOING THEIR BEST, BUT
THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY, AND WE
NEED TO BE THE EXAMPLE, AND WE
SHALL OUR AFFECTIONS, AND WE
HUG, AND THIS IS SO IMPORTANT,
AND THE KIDS NEEDS TO KNOW THAT
THE MOTHER AND FATHER LOVE EACH
OTHER MORE THAN ANYTHING AND
THEY WILL NOT SPLIT UP, AND THEY
WILL FEEL SAFE AND WHEN YOU CAN
SEE US, AND THEY WILL FEEL
SAFE, AND WE HAVE THE HUGS, AND
WE ARE SO BLESSED, AND I DO NOT
TAKE IT FOR GRANTED, AND WE ARE
SO BLESSED TO HAVE THE FAMILY
THAT WE DO.
>> AND I SEE THE MIRACULOUS,
AND IF YOU'RE A SINGLE MOTHER OR
A SINGLE DATA, AND THE LORD WILL
BE WITH YOU AND LOOK HOW HE TOOK
CARE OF HAGAR AND THE BIBLE, AND
HE WILL BE WITH YOU, AND I WAS A
SINGLE-PARENT FOR MANY YEARS,
AND MY CHILDREN MARRIED THE
RIGHT PEOPLE, AND THEY ARE
SERVING THE LORD, I'VE GOT FIVE
GRANDCHILDREN,
>> I THOUGHT YOU WERE 29?
>> AND SIX GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN,
AND ALMOST 7 AND WE ARE
COMPLETELY OUT OF TIME. AND
THIS HAS FLOWN BY, AND WE THANK
YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME, AND
THEY ARE IN FLORIDA ON VACATION,
AND ANY TIME YOU ARE AROUND, AND
PLEASE LET ME KNOW, AND I'M SO
SINCERE AND STAY WITH ME I GOT A
COUPLE OF THINGS TO SAY BEFORE
WE HAVE TO SAY GOODBYE.
>> ARTHELENE WOULD LIKE YOU TO
KEEP THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION
HANDY. AND YOU CAN CONTACT
HOMEKEEPERS BY WRITING TO THE
POST OFFICE BOX ON YOUR SCREEN.
AND YOU CAN GO TO HER WEBSITE,
THAT IS ON THE SCREEN NOW. AND
WE ALWAYS ENJOY HEARING FROM OUR
VIEWERS AND WE THANK YOU FOR
YOUR SUPPORT.
>>
>>AND I CERTAINLY WANT TO THANK
THE LORD, AND FOR BRINGING
STEVEN AND IRENE BY HERE, AND I
AM POSITIVE THAT THEIR STORY HAS
BEEN A BLESSING TO YOU, AND NOT
ONLY A BLESSING, BUT TO OPEN
YOUR EYES, TO A WORLD THAT MAYBE
YOU HAVE ALWAYS TRIED TO CLOSE
YOUR EYES TO IT, THE NOW IT IS
TIME AND AS THE LIFESTYLE IS
BEING CELEBRATED, AND EVERYWHERE
WE LOOK, IN SOCIETY, AND IS TIME
FOR THE CHRISTIANS TO SAY, THIS
IS NOT RIGHT, AND THERE IS A
BETTER WAY, AND I WANT TO OFFER
YOU THE BOOK, "A PARENTS GUIDE
TO PREVENTING HOMOSEXUALITY" AND
I DO BELIEVE SINCE YOU'VE HEARD
THEM TALK ABOUT THE DYNAMIC THAT
WENT ON IN THIS VERY
DYSFUNCTIONAL FAMILY THAT HE
GREW UP IN, AND YOU WILL SEE
THAT THIS BOOK IS VERY
IMPORTANT. AND HE HIGHLIGHTED
THAT IN HIS TESTIMONY. AND THE
TELEPHONE NUMBERS GOING TO BE ON
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AND THE BIBLE SAYS IN JOHN
10:10, JESUS HAS COME THAT WE
MIGHT HAVE LIFE, AND HAVE IT
MORE ABUNDANTLY. AND THE
ABUNDANT LIFE, IT IS WHEN YOU
ARE LIVING IN OBEDIENCE TO GOD
AND PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE
DELIVERANCE, A LOT, AND IN
CHRISTIAN TERMS, AND WE OFTEN
THINK OF THE MAN OF THE
GATERINE DEMONIAC, AND THERE
ARE SO MANY CHURCHES, AND OUR
CASES, WHERE THIS IS IMPORTANT,
AND YOU NEED THAT SUPERNATURAL
INTERVENTION HOWEVER, AND I
BELIEVE THAT 90 PERCENT OF YOUR
DELIVERANCE WILL BE IN OBEYING
GOD AND AS WE PICK UP THE WORLD,
AND THE THINGS OF THE WORLD, AND
WE TAKE THAT IS A LIFESTYLE, AND
THEN WE DECIDE AND WE DETERMINE
TO OBEY THE LORD, THOSE THINGS
WILL BEGIN TO DROP AWAY, AND NO
MATTER WHAT KIND OF A SIN IT IS,
AND THE IMPORTANT THING IS,
THAT WE FOLLOW THE LORD IN
OBEDIENCE. AND JESUS SAYS, AND
SOME OF HIS LAST WORDS, AND GO
AND MAKE DISCIPLES, AND WHAT IS
THAT? AND A DISCIPLE IS A
DISCIPLINED FOLLOWER OF THE LORD
JESUS CHRIST. AND THIS IS WHERE
THE WORD COMES FROM, AND WE
MUST OBEY HIS WORD. AND THEY
WILL NOT GET INTO SITUATIONS
THAT ARE GOING TO BE A
COMPROMISING SITUATION AND THEY
WILL NOT WATCH YUCKY AND DIRTY
AND FILTHY MOVIES AND ON THE
TELEVISION, THEY WILL NOT FEEL
THEIR MIND WITH THAT, AND THAT
IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE, IT IS THE
WORD OF GOD AND THIS IS WHAT IT
IS AND WE ARE OUT OF TIME, AND
PLEASE JOIN ME NEXT TIME, AND
REMEMBER THERE IS NO HIGHER
CALLING THAN THAT OF A HOME
KEEPER AND GOD BLESS YOU.
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