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David Pakman Show. On today's bonus show, we'll be talking about Charlie Rangel's walkout
from his own ethics trial. "The Terrorists Have Won" is the headline found on DrudgeReport.com
today, we'll talk about that. A kid's cupcake sale that ended up with police being called.
And you won't believe this, AK-47s for truck buyers at a Florida car dealership. But first,
we're going to bring on who I think is the first 2012 Tea Party candidate, known to you
maybe as New York City's Naked Cowboy, Robert John Burck, who announced his candidacy a
few days ago. Hey, Robert, thanks for calling in. Robert John Burck: Hey, thanks for having
me. David: Hey, so have you told the Tea Party yet that you're running as a Tea Party candidate?
Robert: Well, you know, when I did the announcement at Times Square, I mean, obviously the first
thing I had to do... Well, first thing I did overall was to just recognize, you know, the
situation that our country is in, you know, with this sky-high deficit, the ridiculously
reckless spending, and, you know, the demilitarization of the United States and, you know, you could
pretty much go on all day. It's like the current administration's almost like a wrecking ball
to everything America is founded upon. David: Right. Robert: So the first thing I, you know,
in recognizing that and in lieu of that, that basically prompted me to one, come up with
a platform, and two, you know, make the commitment to stand by it. And when I did that announcement
in Times Square roughly three or four months ago, that was my announcement basically to
the world to see what kind of capability I had. David: Yeah. Robert: You know, obviously,
you know, your average person saying, "I might run for president," wouldn't amount to a whole
lot unless you had enough money to really get it out there, but by being the Naked Cowboy
and being an American icon... David: Of course. Robert: Which is just basically being a quintessential
American, my announcement was in fact my attempt or my declaration of what I would stand for
and beings that I think both the Republican and the Democratic Party are both guilty of,
you know, or at least share somewhat equally in, you know, the [unintelligible] we're in.
David: Yeah. I want to get into that. I want to get into that, but has anybody from the
Tea Party reached out to you? I mean, are they embracing the Naked Cowboy presidential
candidacy, or what kind of interaction has there been there? Robert: Well, there's been,
to my... I mean, again, we have hundreds of emails that come in every day saying, "We
support you," and, "Go Tea Party!" I personally chose to identify myself with the Tea Party
because my platform is consistent with the Tea Party, and I see the Tea Party as, again,
quintessential American values being... David: Right. Robert: You know, being their objective.
David: Yeah. Robert: I mean, again, you can't go Republican and Democrat because either
one of them is, you know... you know, they... this whole moving to the middle crap is what
has caused, you know, it's really... the big problem is it's the government itself, both
Republican and Democrat, is growing. It's like 30% bigger, the government, now than
before the administration. And we got cap and trade with 20,000 more, I don't know if
they're IRS agents in that case, 15,500... David: Hold on a second. Let's back up. I
do want to get into that, but what... Tell us a little bit, just briefly, what's the
Naked Cowboy's political experience? I mean, why would you make a good president? Robert:
Well, most people don't know I have a, you know, I have a bachelor's degree in political
science. David: Oh, OK. Robert: My father is a career politician. I grew up around politics
my entire life. David: Right. Robert: And I'm someone who's read over 50 books a year
since the time I got out of college. David: It's like George W. Bush. He was at 50 books
a year as well. If he could be president on a book a week, certainly you could be. Robert:
Yeah, you know, and I get that a lot. You know, I get a lot of this, you know, "Oh,
do you think you're smarter than Obama?" and you know. David: Right. Robert: It's not about
smarts. It's about... David: No, certainly Bush isn't smarter than Obama. Robert: Just
having a plan and being honest. It's about honesty, you know? David: That's right. It
is. Robert: The less crafty I am, the better. You know, again... and you know, it's another
thing of getting through, you know? You get these people, it's like as soon as you mention
that you're, you know, against illegal immigration, it's like they personally hate me. David:
Right. Robert: You know, it's like, look, you have to take a side, and you have to take
a side... I'm not, it's not about me versus any particular person, it's about America
versus the detriment of America. David: Of course! Hey, listen, you know, I'm thinking
the Tea Party candidates in the 2010 election, I mean, we had witches, we had violent anti-abortionists,
we had anti-masturbators. In a sense, the Naked Cowboy is the most reasonable candidate
the Tea Party has ever put up, isn't he? Robert: Well, once again, I... I see the Tea Party
at least being organic, grassroots movement. David: Lie. Robert: They're just simply people,
not, you know, special interest groups or people affiliated with them, you know? They...
David: But, so hold on a second. The fact that the Tea Party, there was a Tea Party
seminar last week in D.C. held by the Heritage Foundation, that's not grassroots, is it?
Robert: Well... I don't... I'm not even familiar with that happening. David: Oh, I see. Robert:
You know, I'm sure there's Tea Party movements going all over. David: Right. Robert: I do
recognize the Heritage Foundation as being, you know, very conservative... you know, they
embody conservative principles and seem to do all the research that would favor conservatives,
probably also Republican as well. David: Right. Robert: You know, again, my... The one thing
that's going to be different about Naked Cowboy, the only way Naked Cowboy, or Robert John
Burck is my real name, will have a shot in, you know, is to be the people's choice. David:
Of course. Robert: You know? I'm literally the guy who, in Times Square, I can reach
people from all 50 states, as a platform, I pass out my platform, you know, promoting
the privatization of health care and education, stopping illegal immigration, ending the welfare
state... David: So you want to privatize health care. Listen, one of the issues... Yeah. People
are on the chatroom, and I'm getting passed a lot of notes about, what's... we want to
know about social issues. What's your position on gay marriage? Robert: I'm against the Defense
of Marriage Act. I think the marriage should be between a male and a man... a man and a
woman. It's not that I have anything against gays. If it were up to me... David: Of course.
Robert: [Audio cuts - presumably "Lesbian"] women would not even be able to get married.
You know? David: There you go. Robert: I'm against marriage period. But you know, because
we have children... David: But, so hold on, you're against... you're against the Defense
of Marriage Act? Robert: Yeah, DoMA. David: Right. But if you're against the Defense of
Marriage Act, then that would mean you are for gay marriage, wouldn't it? Robert: Well,
in 1990s, whenever it was Bill Clinton signed it, my point is I'm against... I'm for a traditional
marriage between a man and a woman and kids growing up in that environment. David: Got
you. Robert: That's what I'm for. I got you. Defense of... yeah, I got... all right, yeah.
David: OK, I think we're hammering this out. OK, and who... Now, are you concerned, I know
you were recently on "The Howard Stern Show", and the Naked Cowgirl is kind of copying your
shtick in New York. Are you concerned she might run for president? Robert: No, I'm not
concerned about that. David: OK. Robert: I'm not concerned with her being Naked Cowgirl
because due process will stop her. And I also want to say, too, because again, here's the
same type of thing. You say are you for or against gay marriage, and I say I'm not. It's
not about me. Before I started this whole campaign, I looked... I just simply looked
at what's going on. I looked at who's saying what. I think the American people don't want
to continue this secular humanism or this secular progressivism that's, you know, tearing
apart our traditional values. David: Right. Hey, what's your position... yeah. Robert:
So it's not me. I personally couldn't care if every guy, gay person in the world got
married to everybody. David: Of course. Robert: I don't care personally. David: No. Robert:
I'm just taking a stance and making myself available, and I'm saying that I will keep
my word, and the platform that I'm articulating, I'll stand by that. If people don't want it,
they don't want it. It's not about me versus them, it's about having someone with the guts
to just have a platform and just stick by it regardless of what comes, you know? Just
stick by it, you know? David: Yeah. So let me... I mean, here's the bottom line here.
You've figured out how to play the guitar, you figured out how to have a job where you
can hang out in tighty-whities every day. I mean, that alone indicates more critical
thinking than, Louis, I think we saw from many Tea Party candidates, don't you think?
Louis: I agree. David: So tell me, who will be your running mate in this campaign? Robert:
Haven't got that far. David: Not that far. OK. Fair enough. Maybe the Naked Cowgirl.
This could be the opportunity to reach out and have a cross-gender, cross-party-line
ticket. Robert: Well, OK. Once again, you know, whenever someone like myself, someone
who has a degree of notoriety or fame... David: Right. Robert: And they announce a candidacy,
you know, Lady Gaga announced that she was running for president, ha ha, it's just a
press stunt. David: Right. Robert: Well, this is not just a press stunt. And a lot of times
it gets reduced to that because you can only go so far. David: Sure. Robert: Again, as
an American, and looking at the situation, studying Ayn Rand around the clock and...
David: Right. Robert: Michael Savage and, you know, listening to all these people and
being, you know, moved to want to do anything that I could, I thought the most that I could
possibly do would be to, again, declare a platform for things that I believe in, put
it out there, and if the American people want that type of platform, they can at least count
on me to do what I'm damn gonna do. [inaudible] David: So you're a Michael Savage fan. Hey,
so tell me, if you are elected president, will you still be seen publicly? I mean, will
it be Mr. Naked, Mr. Cowboy, Mr. President Naked? How will you go by? I don't understand.
Robert: Well, if you go online and you type in "Naked Cowboy for President" or nakedcowboy4president.com,
I believe it's Naked Cowboy with a number 4, or you could, any YouTube, whatever, you
can see I, you know, I can put on a suit and tie and articulate and talk in my suit and
tie as well as anyone. In fact, I look better than any other candidate can look in a suit
and tie. So I can play that role as well. Naked Cowboy is what I do as a career and
as a brand-building experiment that I've been tantalizing [inaudible] We have Naked Cowboy
Oysters, they're the number one-selling oyster on the East Coast, we have three albums on
iTunes, we have Naked Cowboy boots, hats, plus Skidmark-brand underwear available at
NakedCowboy.com, and I could go on all day with the list of products that are sold worldwide
[inaudible] Naked Cowboy. David: Excellent. All right. Naked Cowboy Robert John Burck,
the first 2012 Tea Party presidential candidate, and I would venture to say, Louis, the most
reasonable. Thank you so much for calling in today. Robert: Thanks for having me. David:
All right. We'll take a break, Louis, and we'll be back with more after this. Incredible.
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